Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Emanuele
Anyone have it and can tell us how it sounds? Are the capsules in a tetraedical position? Thanks. Emanuele On 13/11/2013 20:00, Daniel Courville wrote: ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.m

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Jon Honeyball
And how does "The patented technology allows pickup polar patterns and direction to be freely adjusted,even after the actual recording event (in mixdown)² work with prior art from the sound field? Jon On 14/11/2013 09:43, "Emanuele" wrote: >Anyone have it and can tell us how it sounds? >Are th

[Sursound] Ambisonic first approach

2013-11-14 Thread Emanuele
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Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I think I rememeber it is horizontal only and using xy cardeoids and syntesising the omni signal by taking the singals and adding with phase inverign for 2 signals. - Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Emanuele Sent: den 14 novem

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Yes and in realtime, there is a video on youtube showing this, seart for martin kantola http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I32RW0sZqKQ Bosse -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Jon Honeyball Sent: den 14 november 2013 10:59 To: Surround Sou

Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order

2013-11-14 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:00:10AM +, Andy Furniss wrote: > I am not experienced with ambdec, but while trying something today I > noticed something confusing when feeding direct with mplayer - > > mplayer -channels 4 -ao jack:port=ambdec pwh-VoiCE-Round.amb > > The channels are crossed as i

Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order

2013-11-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
In my experience, the order of channels in jack are stable enough to use this simple channels remapping trick: mplayer -channels 4 -af channels=4:4:0:0:1:3:2:1:3:2 -ao jack:port=ambdec AJH_eight-positions.amb Adapt as needed. -- Marc Fons Adriaensen a écrit : > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:00:

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic first approach

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/14/2013 12:14 PM, Emanuele wrote: Hello everyone, I've been lurking this list for a while and I would like to have some help to approach the Ambisonic technique. I used pretty much all kind of multichannel configurations during the years and currently I'm using mainly my own technique. I n

Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order

2013-11-14 Thread Michael Chapman
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:00:10AM +, Andy Furniss wrote: > >> I am not experienced with ambdec, but while trying something today I >> noticed something confusing when feeding direct with mplayer - >> >> mplayer -channels 4 -ao jack:port=ambdec pwh-VoiCE-Round.amb >> >> The channels are cross

[Sursound] Linux Audio Conference 2014 - Call for Participation

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
dear sursounders, here's the call for papers to the next linux audio conference. ambisonics has featured quite prominently there in recent years, so it's not as off-topic as you might think. regards, jörn Original Message Subject: [LAA] Linux Audio Conference 2014 - C

Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order - Player

2013-11-14 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Try to compile potamus a very simple player that can be modified to work as jack aware multichannel player. http://offog.org/code/potamus.html > Can it play back multichannel wav files ? In theory it should do, but it only creates two JACK output ports by default, so you'll need to change that

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Eero Aro
Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: I think I rememeber it is horizontal only I can confirm that. Just by the accident, I visited an Audio-Visual Fair in the Helsinki Fair Centre this afternoon and had a chat with Martin, who has designed the microphone. I actually held the microphone in my hand. There w

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/14/2013 03:31 PM, Eero Aro wrote: Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: I think I rememeber it is horizontal only I can confirm that. Just by the accident, I visited an Audio-Visual Fair in the Helsinki Fair Centre this afternoon and had a chat with Martin, who has designed the microphone. I actuall

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Eero Aro
no separate control boxes. The output is standard 5 pin XLR. unbalanced outs in a microphone that expensive? please tell me it's just a typo, and you meant to say 7pin lemo or something like that :-D Martin says all three channels are balanced. He told me to think about how he's done that. I

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread umashankar manthravadi
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Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/14/2013 04:08 PM, umashankar manthravadi wrote: one ground pin, two figure of eights with one or both receiving phantom voltage, and two pins, one from each figure of eight, out of phase for the Omni. you mean the omni will be a phantom circuit? oh my god, i only hope he can tame the de

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread umashankar manthravadi
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Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
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Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread David Pickett
At 12:31 14-11-13, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >I think I rememeber it is horizontal only and using xy cardeoids and >syntesising the omni signal by taking the singals and adding with >phase inverign for 2 signals. If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that hoizontal ambisonic (alias pa

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread umashankar manthravadi
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Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 14 November 2013 20:38 +0530 umashankar manthravadi wrote: > one ground pin, two figure of eights with one or both receiving > phantom voltage, and two pins, one from each figure of eight, out of > phase for the Omni. I'm picturing the pins carrying: 1 ground 2 power 3 W+, 0.5X-, 0.5 Y- 4

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread umashankar manthravadi
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Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 14 November 2013 16:34 + Paul Hodges wrote: > I'm picturing the pins carrying: No, I've done that wrong; but something along those lines should work: OK 1 ground 2 power 3 W+, X-, Y- 4 W-, X+, Y- 5 W-, X-, Y+ then W is (3, 0.5(4+5)) X is (4, 0.5(3+5)) Y is (5, 0.5(3+4)) That's bett

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 14 November 2013 16:56 + Paul Hodges wrote: > That's better; things cancel out properly that way. Argh - no they don't; I'll stop doing this in my head while working on something completely different! Sorry for the noise. Paul -- Paul Hodges ___

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread David Pickett
At 17:35 14-11-13, umashankar manthravadi wrote: >I can imagine building this with two dual diaphragm condenser >capsules. horizontal only ambisonics. you can buy matched high quality >pairs of dual diaphragm capsules. I am currently doing this in one mic body. Previously I successfully record

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic first approach

2013-11-14 Thread Emanuele
Thanks for your answer Jörn, have you got any of those, and if you have are you using them on the field and how do they behave and sound for nature recordings? Thanks. Emanuele Soundfield ST450 Core Sound Tetramic Microphone you can find reviews for both on the web, some with measurement

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic first approach

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/14/2013 06:31 PM, Emanuele wrote: Thanks for your answer Jörn, have you got any of those, and if you have are you using them on the field and how do they behave and sound for nature recordings? replying off-list, since this has been discussed before: i own a tetramic and an st450. the t

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic first approach

2013-11-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/14/2013 07:19 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 11/14/2013 06:31 PM, Emanuele wrote: Thanks for your answer Jörn, have you got any of those, and if you have are you using them on the field and how do they behave and sound for nature recordings? replying off-list, since this has been disc

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
Just like patenting aspects of the iPhone works with prior art of mobile phones and computers. For all we know they patented a user interface aspect of their processing software ;) Ronald On 14 Nov 2013, at 04:59, Jon Honeyball wrote: > And how does "The patented technology allows pickup pola

[Sursound] Tetramic Question

2013-11-14 Thread David Cindric
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Re: [Sursound] Tetramic Question

2013-11-14 Thread Bearcat M . Şándor
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Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order - Player

2013-11-14 Thread Andy Furniss
Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: Try to compile potamus a very simple player that can be modified to work as jack aware multichannel player. http://offog.org/code/potamus.html Can it play back multichannel wav files ? In theory it should do, but it only creates two JACK output ports by default, so you

Re: [Sursound] Tetramic Question

2013-11-14 Thread David Cindric
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Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order

2013-11-14 Thread Andy Furniss
Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:00:10AM +, Andy Furniss wrote: I am not experienced with ambdec, but while trying something today I noticed something confusing when feeding direct with mplayer - mplayer -channels 4 -ao jack:port=ambdec pwh-VoiCE-Round.amb The channels ar

Re: [Sursound] brahma mic & virtual reality

2013-11-14 Thread umashankar manthravadi
dear mathew I have forwarded your mail to my friends, who are doing the financial/marketing side of things. it is very possible that the kickstarter goal will not be met. I have been putting pressure on them that we offer all those who pledged that they should be able to get brahma at the pric