Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-11 Thread Geoffrey Barton
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:16:48 +0100 > From: Dave Malham > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Message-ID: <4ffd4480.2090...@york.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-11 Thread Dave Malham
Hi Marc On 11/07/2012 02:27, Marc Lavallée wrote: Hi Dave Dave Malham a écrit : Hi Marc I've certainly thought about doing that, but not initially since it means that (a) you would be limited to passive speakers This limitation is a feature: with less hardware the cost is lowered and the q

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-10 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Dave Dave Malham a écrit : > Hi Marc > > I've certainly thought about doing that, but not initially since it > means that > > (a) you would be limited to passive speakers This limitation is a feature: with less hardware the cost is lowered and the quality is raised. It would be a good choi

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-10 Thread Dave Malham
Thought you just might have meant that :-) Dave On 10/07/2012 02:24, Marc Lavallée wrote: I meant: "one D/A conversion" I wrote: It's possible to skip the A/D conversion by using amplifiers with digital inputs. Texas Instruments have a 8 channels digital to PWM converter that can drive D-

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-10 Thread Dave Malham
Hi Marc I've certainly thought about doing that, but not initially since it means that (a) you would be limited to passive speakers (b) the specs aren't as good as the Analog Devices ADAU1966, the evaluation board for which is sitting next to me :-) (c) serious levels of hardware design neede

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-09 Thread Marc Lavallée
I meant: "one D/A conversion" I wrote: > It's possible to skip the A/D conversion by using amplifiers with > digital inputs. Texas Instruments have a 8 channels digital to PWM > converter that can drive D-class amps with PWM inputs; that means only > one A/D conversion, done by the speaker... >

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-07-09 Thread Marc Lavallée
Dave, It's possible to skip the A/D conversion by using amplifiers with digital inputs. Texas Instruments have a 8 channels digital to PWM converter that can drive D-class amps with PWM inputs; that means only one A/D conversion, done by the speaker... http://www.ti.com/product/TAS5508C Marc

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-25 Thread Dave Malham
Hi Marc, True, I'm sure you could use a usb interface, but even a low cost multichannel unit would be quite a lot more expensive (and, probably, power hungry) than the PI whereas Analog Devices (for instance) do a 16 channel, 24 bit, 192kHz DASC IC for around 10 ukp (ADAU1966) which would p

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
The snd_bcm2835 driver is for the integrated stereo sound module. For more channels, a cheap 8 channels USB sound module would probably work, and ALSA drivers for many sound modules are stable. Martin Leese a écrit : > Dave Malham wrote: > > > The Raspberry PI is really cheap and runs Linux,

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-24 Thread Martin Leese
Dave Malham wrote: > The Raspberry PI is really cheap and runs Linux, so it does provide some > real possibilities, though > it is, in some ways, quite limited - max 256m ram at present, for instance - ... > it seems that the SPI pins are available on a standard header so shouldn't > be too diffi

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-24 Thread Dave Malham
The Raspberry PI is really cheap and runs Linux, so it does provide some real possibilities, though it is, in some ways, quite limited - max 256m ram at present, for instance - and documentation is currently not really in a "this is how you do it" state (http://www.element14.com/community/docs/

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-24 Thread Daniel Courville
Le 12-04-20 14:54, Jan Jacob Hofmann a écrit : >I was pointed to a device, which is able to play audio-files of up to >16 channels without the need of a computer as a stand-alone device. It >is basically a SD-card player and I wonder, if this might be >interesting for some on this list. Here's so

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread John Leonard
Personally, for a museum or attraction install, I'd rather go for one of the long established systems, like Richmond Sound Design's AudioBox II (http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/audiobox-ii.html) Last year I replaced an original 8 unit Audiobox install at Madame Tussauds New York, that had b

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
For predecoded audio properly dithered and almost-normalized 16-bit is perfectly adequate; I'd be more worried about the jitter from a bad clock than about the limited wordlength. Sent from my mobile phone On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:00, Dave Malham wrote: > AS you say, great for installations, Amb

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread Dave Hunt
Hi, Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:54:16 +0200 From: Jan Jacob Hofmann Dear list, I was pointed to a device, which is able to play audio-files of up to 16 channels without the need of a computer as a stand-alone device. It is basically a SD-card player and I wonder, if this might be interesting f

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread Dave Malham
AS you say, great for installations, Ambisonic or not - I could really have done with this device a year ago for a non-Ambisonic project! It's a pity it doesn't do 24 bit audio as this would make it more attractive still. Still, at that price...I presume the 200 Euro is for the multichannel versi

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-22 Thread Jan Jacob Hofmann
I could immagine using it for installations and concerts playing predecoded ambisonic music. For permanent installations I guess it could convenient because any of the staff of a museum could easily operate it. For concerts it would be convenient for me because I would not have to travel wi

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-20 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
It's also really small, the question is how much power supply adds to the bulk, wonder if USB power would be sufficient to run a 16 channel setup... ...similar thing able to take digital audio (FW) and store the would be killer, but would likely require collaboration with specific hardware manuf

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-20 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
One could play predecoded Ambisonics anywhere there's a power amp designed to take analog inputs from multichannel DVD/SACD players; which might be useful for demos where a decoder is impractical or impossible to hook into a preexisting setup. Sent from my mobile phone On 20 Apr 2012, at 21:29

Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-20 Thread Eric Benjamin
That is a pretty cool project. Having said that, I don't know what I would do with one. As it stands it's a 2-channel player, but it's possible to get a 2-channel player for less than that. If you expand it to 8 or 16 channels, then it's unique, but I still don't know what I would do with it