Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le Vend. 25 Fév 2011 à 11:29:26 +0800, Junfeng Li a écrit : > I am starting to research on 3D audio reproduction using two/three > loudspeakers. > therefore, I began with build up a real-time 3D sound reproduction > system with two loudspeakers, based on binaural technique (HRTF, > BRIR, etc.). B

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Greene
PS Good and maybe even true story about summing series Supposedly someone asked J von Neumann about the following problem Suppose two trains start out from two stations that are 200 hundred miles apart. The trains are going 20 miles per hour and 30 miles per hour. A (speedy) bird leaves the fron

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Greene
While this description is true in principle, about recursion, in practice no one really adds up as one goes along the geometric series arising! (This is like summing a series in closed form-always doable in the general situation involved here). A single "kernel" is computed --what to put into e

[Sursound] Audio+Design Pan Rotate Unit on eBay

2011-02-24 Thread Martin Leese
On 2/18/11, Martin Leese wrote: > There is an Audio+Design B-Format Converter > and UHJ Transcoder on eBay: Now there is the Audio+Design Pan Rotate Unit: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200579914772 I still have no connection with the seller. Regards, Martin -- Martin J Lee

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Junfeng Li
Hello, Thanks a lot for so valuable comments and active discussions. While, possibly I did not give a clear explanation of my problem before. therefore, I would like to show the problem again more clearly. I am starting to research on 3D audio reproduction using two/three loudspeakers. therefore

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
It is similar: The Carver C-9 is cancelling one occurence of cross-talk by mixing in to each channel a delayed inverted copy of the other channel, while the RACE algorithm cancels the following cross-talk occurences recursively because the mixed delayed inverted signals must also be cancelled..

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Greene
I think this idea was invented by Christian Huygens and Young and Fresnel. Once one knows that sound is a wave phenomenon, there is nothing left to invent--except the details of how the sound goes around the head. Practical implementation especially in the analogue world is another story! Robert

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Greene
In detail, I think, yes it is different. It is designed for a certain angle and distance which are different at least from RGs stereo dipole where the speakers are close together in front of the listener. But I do not see any reason why the whole thing could not be easily programmed up. After all

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Josh Atkins
This is getting off topic, but in helping my advisor prepare an invited talk a few months ago I found that the idea of cross-talk canceling was invented by Manfred Schroeder and Bishnu Atal in the 60's at Bell Labs: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3236949.html They should have waited 40 years to

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Peter Lennox
Is it so different from Ralph Glasgal's ambiophonic cross-talk cancelling? Dr Peter Lennox School of Technology, Faculty of Arts, design and Technology University of Derby, UK e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk t: 01332 593155 w: http://sparg.derby.ac.uk/SPARG/Staff_PLX.asp _

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Graves
I have a Carver C-9 Sonic Hologram unit that I bought on Ebay for about $80. It's a nice little demo piece, but limited in its application. That said, it's biggest problem is noise. Of course it's all analogue and built around -10 dbm levels. And all those capacitors are now very old. Has this s

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread D. Sen
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Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Greene
I suppose that someone ought to mention-so I shall-- the Carver Sonic Hologram. You can still find the devices around(they were crosstalk cancellation processors). They work really well, if you do not mind sitting really still in one spot (which of course you are going to have to do for any such s

Re: [Sursound] B format recording

2011-02-24 Thread Daniel Courville
Le 11-02-24 09:54, Svein Berge a écrit : >There is of course Harpex. Excuse me for plugging the plugin, I'm just >answering questions here... It can convert from B-format to stereo, >binaural, surround, 3D surround and more. I can vouch for the quality of the Harpex-B decoder: it is very good. It

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Danny McCarty
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Re: [Sursound] B format recording

2011-02-24 Thread Svein Berge
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Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
hi junfeng, On 02/24/2011 09:11 AM, Junfeng Li wrote: Hello, all friends, Is anyone working on binaural sound reproduction using loudspeakers? To reproduce 3D sound using loudspeaker, cross-talk cancellation is needed, as I know. > Does anyone know which the most-advanced cross-talk cancellat

[Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-02-24 Thread Junfeng Li
(source code) of binaural reproduction using loudspeaker, which can share with me? Great appreciation to all you. Best regards, Junfeng -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110224/12e28