Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-27 Thread Nitinder Mohan via Starlink
(TUM) https://www.nitindermohan.com/ From: Ulrich Speidel via Starlink Reply: Ulrich Speidel Date: 27. February 2024 at 11:16:45 To: David Lang Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject:  Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published On 27/02/2024 7:21 pm,

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-27 Thread Ulrich Speidel via Starlink
On 27/02/2024 7:21 pm, David Lang wrote: ...snip > The point though is that these sparsely populated areas aren't where the > scalability issue arises. Capacity needs to be where the demand for it is. I only partially agree with you here. Yes, capacity that isn't needed doesn't matter, but I

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread David Lang via Starlink
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel wrote: All good points ... see below. On 27/02/2024 2:13 pm, David Lang wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel wrote: On 27/02/2024 12:19 pm, David Lang wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: There are large areas with poor

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread Ulrich Speidel via Starlink
All good points ... see below. On 27/02/2024 2:13 pm, David Lang wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel wrote: On 27/02/2024 12:19 pm, David Lang wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: There are large areas with poor or non-existant cell coverage. Outside the U

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread David Lang via Starlink
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel wrote: On 27/02/2024 12:19 pm, David Lang wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: There are large areas with poor or non-existant cell coverage. Outside the US, scaling of Starlink can happen just by providing coverage to locations

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread Ulrich Speidel via Starlink
On 27/02/2024 12:19 pm, David Lang wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: My most serious concern about Starlink as a system remains the fact that it puts a pipe between the end user and the first network hop (the satellite) that is in principle very difficult to scale

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread David Lang via Starlink
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: My most serious concern about Starlink as a system remains the fact that it puts a pipe between the end user and the first network hop (the satellite) that is in principle very difficult to scale: There's only so much extra spectrum one c

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread Ulrich Speidel via Starlink
Thanks for that! Another few interesting pieces to the jigsaw puzzle. I've been a bit reluctant to enter the performance measurement game around Starlink myself, chiefly because it's a moving target in more than one sense, so essentially you end up producing (nevertheless useful) snapshots. Th

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread Dave Taht via Starlink
While nobody reads footnotes much, and I would really like you to cite this as the instigator of a lot of research into this area, also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw because of all that rage and frustration is what keyed off 3 years of effort. Think of it as newton noticed an apple

Re: [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread J Pan via Starlink
very nice paper and video---we've updated the reference to your work as well. cheers. -j -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), p...@uvic.ca, Web.UVic.CA/~pan On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:13 AM Nitinder Mohan via Starlink wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Our comprehensive multifaceted measure

[Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published

2024-02-26 Thread Nitinder Mohan via Starlink
Hi folks, Our comprehensive multifaceted measurement study looking at Starlink global and last-mile performance is now available online:  https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.09242.  TL;DR: See the summary in this nice teaser video we made:  https://youtu.be/WtE3MoK8J80  We looked at several third-party