Re: service apache24 reload

2024-10-29 Thread Eugene Grosbein
30.10.2024 12:50, ft wrote: [skip] > 2b. > [root@jail_www ft]$ service -v apache24 status > apache24 is located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d > apache24 is not running. > > > What's going wrong? https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=268318

Re: 13-STABLE high idprio load gives poor responsiveness and excessive CPU time per task

2024-02-27 Thread Eugene Grosbein
: sysctl vfs.zfs.arc.meta_strategy=0 sysctl vfs.zfs.arc.meta_limit_percent=25 Note that in 14.0 ZFS changed a lot and no more has sysctl vfs.zfs.arc.meta_strategy, also it did not exist in FreeBSD 12.x, too. Eugene Grosbein

Re: kern.version and uname -v

2024-01-08 Thread Eugene Grosbein
09.01.2024 4:16, Warner Losh wrote: > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:58 PM Eugene Grosbein <mailto:eu...@grosbein.net>> wrote: > For ages, "uname -v" output (sligtly polished sysctl kern.version) had > the following format: > $ uname -v > FreeBSD

kern.version and uname -v

2024-01-08 Thread Eugene Grosbein
4: Fri Nov 10 05:51:26 UTC 2023 r...@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386.i386/sys/GENERIC Do we really need to break the format and include these into "uname -v" output for release and stable branches? Eugene Grosbein

Re: Unusual ZFS behaviour

2023-11-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
22.11.2023 13:49, Jonathan Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running a somewhat recent version of STABLE-13/amd64: > stable/13-n256681-0b7939d725ba: Fri Nov 10 08:48:36 NZDT 2023, and I'm seeing > some unusual behaviour with ZFS. > > To reproduce: > 1. one big empty disk, GPT scheme, 1 freebsd-zfs par

Re: nvd->nda switch and blocksize changes for ZFS

2023-09-25 Thread Eugene Grosbein
25.09.2023 13:42, Frank Behrens wrote: > With these information I'm not sure, if I have really a problem with the > native blocksize. > Does anybody know, how the stripesize is determined? It is reported by underlying driver, these are nda or nvd in your case. Eugene

Re: net/mpd5 on stable/14 - COMPAT_FREEBSD12 required?

2023-09-01 Thread Eugene Grosbein
01.09.2023 13:21, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:39:13 +0200, "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:46:46 +0200, "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:29:28 +0200, "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: Hi, after updating from stable

Re: git: 7be29291845a - stable/14 - UPDATING: fix a vestigial reference to -CURRENT

2023-08-26 Thread Eugene Grosbein
26.08.2023 7:32, Glen Barber wrote: Moving to stable@ and net@ as requested. > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 05:13:50AM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> 26.08.2023 3:55, Glen Barber wrote: >> >>>> Please note the following commit: >>>> https://cgit.freeb

Re: Best practices for cxgbei and link aggregation?

2023-08-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
04.08.2023 4:41, Alan Somers wrote: > On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:14 PM Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> >> 04.08.2023 0:56, Alan Somers wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to build a high-speed iSCSI server. I have two Chelsio T6 >>> cards providing 4x 25GbE ports. I

Re: Best practices for cxgbei and link aggregation?

2023-08-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
04.08.2023 0:56, Alan Somers wrote: > I'm trying to build a high-speed iSCSI server. I have two Chelsio T6 > cards providing 4x 25GbE ports. I have a requirement for > high-availability networking, and I also need multiple ports' worth of > bandwidth. What's the best way to use them? > > First

Re: Source upgrade 12.4 - 13.2 installworld jails Function not implemented

2023-07-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
21.07.2023 16:11, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Hi all, > > Looking for advice what to do next. This is a production server and we can > only afford short downtimes. > > Kernel is (was) > FreeBSD 12.4-STABLE stable/12-c3bbba00e GENERIC > then > Fetched 13.2-STABLE sources yesterday morning. > >

Re: Fwd: Kernel DHCP unpredictable/fails (PXE boot), userspace DHCP works just fine

2023-03-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
19.03.2023 5:01, Attila Nagy wrote: > Sometimes UEFI/BIOS SETUP has some settings for ACPI/HPET timers > (enable/disable), > did you try "playing" with such options? > > Nope, I haven't thought about that. > It's enabled (default setting). Another possible reason: DHCP packets sent from

Re: Fwd: Kernel DHCP unpredictable/fails (PXE boot), userspace DHCP works just fine

2023-03-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
17.03.2023 3:44, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hi, > > As this is super annoying, I'm willing to pay a $500 bounty for solving this > issue (whomever is first, however I don't anticipate a big competition :) > Having an invoice would be best, but I'm willing to accept individuals as > well). > I can't g

Re: OPNSense (FreeBSD 13.1-p6) kernel panic

2023-02-28 Thread Eugene Grosbein
28.02.2023 19:25, Richard Hurt wrote: > After a recent OPNSense update my HD activity light was staying on and the > CPU meter on the OPNSense dashboard was reading 100%. After looking for > anything obvious and turning off all the services I could, the CPU was still > pegged and the HD light

Re: Grep with non-ascii

2023-02-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
03.02.2023 21:18, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > Den Fri, 3 Feb 2023 19:12:32 +0700 > skrev Eugene Grosbein : > >> 03.02.2023 17:06, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> I just noticed this today: >>> >>> elg!ene[~]>

Re: Grep with non-ascii

2023-02-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
03.02.2023 17:06, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > Hello. > > I just noticed this today: > > elg!ene[~]> printf "bø\nhei\nøl\n" | grep ø > grep: trailing backslash (\) > elg!ene[~]> echo $LC_CTYPE $LANG > nb_NO.ISO8859-1 nb_NO.ISO8859-1 > > While I have the result I envisioned with gnugrep: > >

Re: Slow WAN traffic to FreeBSD hosts but not to Linux hosts---how to debug/fix?

2023-01-30 Thread Eugene Grosbein
31.01.2023 4:17, Paul Mather wrote: > TL;DR: When working from home, I can max out my residential 200 Mbit network > connection when downloading from remote Linux hosts at $JOB but only manage > about 20% of my max residential connection speed when downloading from remote > FreeBSD hosts at $JO

Re: Kernel is using a lot of CPU

2023-01-30 Thread Eugene Grosbein
30.01.2023 21:50, DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator wrote: > On 30/01/2023 15:47, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> 30.01.2023 21:27, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >> >>> 12.4 autoloaded acpi_wmi with dubious results: >>> >>> Autoloading module: acpi_wmi >

Re: Kernel is using a lot of CPU

2023-01-30 Thread Eugene Grosbein
30.01.2023 21:27, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > 12.4 autoloaded acpi_wmi with dubious results: > > Autoloading module: acpi_wmi > acpi_wmi0: on acpi0 > acpi_wmi0: cannot find EC device > device_attach: acpi_wmi0 attach returned 6 > acpi_wmi0: on acpi0 > acpi_wmi0: cannot find EC device > device_at

Re: Memory question

2023-01-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
03.01.2023 20:04, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > This might be more related to a bios setting or issue, but I hope > somebody can give me hints in the right direction to remedy or > at least diagnose this issue further. > > I installed more memory in one machine and now I see this > in dmesg: >

Re: random pkg "failed checksum from repository" errors

2022-06-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.06.2022 16:23, Graham Menhennitt wrote: > I've just installed a 13.1 Release system on AMD64. Trying to install some > packages: > > > # pkg install xorg kde5 sddm nvidia-driver-390 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up to date. > All repositories are up to da

Re: breaking modules

2022-05-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
04.05.2022 2:42, Ed Maste wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 14:43, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> >> For example: >> >> if_em >> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=c0460cf2e42d2819c1f191a1d6e1b3dc0c7ea010 >> if_epair >

Re: breaking modules

2022-05-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
>> Setting a MODULE_DUDS would save work rather than repetitively retro >> patching out the same modules in Makefile after each git pull --ff-only. >> >> I'd happily develop a patch for sys/modules/, but if someone >> else prefers to, that might increase the chance

Re: cannot remove/detach missing disk from zmirror: no valid replicas

2022-05-03 Thread Eugene Grosbein
02.05.2022 12:23, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > Hello, > > > Any chance I can sole this without replacing ? (Yeah, I accidentally issued > "attach" instead of "replace" being fully confident that I will be able to > "detach" later. I couldn't be more wrong.) > > > [root@replica:~]# zpool statu

Re: breaking modules

2022-04-29 Thread Eugene Grosbein
29.04.2022 21:49, Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:28, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >> but that's crude. It's nice to be able to build most modules ready >> in case wanted later, so how about a DUDS env. mechanism like ports/ ? > > I'd rather not add additional complexity to our build i

Re: 13.1 mini-memstick installation image size

2022-03-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
19.03.2022 10:11, Warner Losh wrote: > > AFAIK, kldload cannot load compressed modules, only loader can. > > If so, kldload should support it as loader does. > > > I thought I'd added it years ago by uncomptessing to /tmp and loading it from > there.. Also, multiple system utilities l

Re: 13.1 mini-memstick installation image size

2022-03-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
19.03.2022 10:11, Warner Losh wrote: > > AFAIK, kldload cannot load compressed modules, only loader can. > > If so, kldload should support it as loader does. > > > I thought I'd added it years ago by uncomptessing to /tmp and loading it from > there.. Not in stable/13: # ktrace -i kl

Re: 13.1 mini-memstick installation image size

2022-03-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
19.03.2022 3:58, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:12 AM Eugene Grosbein <mailto:eu...@grosbein.net>> wrote: > > Hi! > > I wonder if we really need /usr/share to be over 106MB in > FreeBSD-13.1-BETA1-amd64-mini-memstick.img > increas

13.1 mini-memstick installation image size

2022-03-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
Hi! I wonder if we really need /usr/share to be over 106MB in FreeBSD-13.1-BETA1-amd64-mini-memstick.img increasing its uncompressed size upto 434MB ? Same for bootonly image that is somewhat less but it's still pretty large to be used for network booting some hoster's virtual machine, for exam

Re: GRE tunnel and a ipv4 subnet /29

2022-03-11 Thread Eugene Grosbein
12.03.2022 5:45, Jack Raats wrote: > I have an ipv4 test subnet from extraip 37.x.y.0/29 > > My internet connection has ip-address a.b.c.d. > I've a Fritxbox router and behind NAT is my FreeBSD server with ip-address > 10.10.10.15. > On this router I've opened the firewall for GRE to my FreeBSD

Re: Program crashes on stable/13 (but not on 12.3)

2022-03-05 Thread Eugene Grosbein
06.03.2022 2:26, Peter wrote: Adding kib@ to CC: in case this is connected to recent commit by him. > Hija, > > this program crashes SEGV on stable/13 after 135962 iterations, > but continues to run on 12.3. > > My stable/13 is still at 22ba2970766 - if You happen to be on a > newer level, the

Re: Dell Perc H355 support?

2022-02-04 Thread Eugene Grosbein
04.02.2022 19:22, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote: > Hi, > > was thinking about getting a Dell R450 server, but unfortunately the PERC H355 > RAID controller does not seem to be (yet?) supported. > > Has anybody tried running FreeBSD on such a machine? Have you tried mrsas(4) driver? Please be sure to

Re: gptzfsboot can't boot from 4TB SSD

2022-01-27 Thread Eugene Grosbein
27.01.2022 22:09, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > Or should I bring back a / UFS partition in the front instead, with > /usr and /var on ZFS? I would recommend to create 10GB partition at the beginning of boot drive, create distinct ZFS boot pool there for the OS to keep everything except of /usr/local,

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-17 Thread Eugene Grosbein
17.01.2022 20:24, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> Well, perform independent hardware (memory) testing with something like >> memtest86+ >> and if it is all right, you show ask someone more knowledgeable. Maybe CC: >> a...@freebsd.org > > Perhaps should have done that when I started, but supplier

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-16 Thread Eugene Grosbein
17.01.2022 8:01, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Got this a bit further by adding this to the config: > options ACPI_DEBUG > options VERBOSE_SYSINIT=1 > > But now it tells me: > Table 'FACP' at 0xdffc0200 > Table 'APIC' at 0xdffc0390 > Table 'MCFG' at 0xdffc0460 > Table 'OEMB' at 0xdffce040 > Table

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.01.2022 22:13, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > With 11.4 verbose boot over the serial port: > Booting... > Table 'FACP' at 0xdffc0200 > Table 'APIC' at 0xdffc0390 > APIC: Found table at 0xdffc0390 > APIC: Using the MADT enumerator. > MADT: Found CPU APIC ID 0 ACPI ID 1: enabled > SMP: Added CPU 0

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.01.2022 23:34, Willem Jan Withagen wrote > That is it. it is "dead" after that > Does 14-CURRENT have KDB stuff preloaded, I could give it a shot. I'm not sure, you'll have to try it yourself. > Otherwise I'd have to build 11.4 and go into KDB from there. > > What are the first things yo

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.01.2022 22:13, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 14-1-2022 15:29, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> >>> set kern.vty=sc >>> set hw.vga.acpi_ignore_no_vga=1 >>> set console="vidconsole comconsole" >>> set comconsole_port="0x3f8" >>&g

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.01.2022 20:58, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 14-1-2022 14:02, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> 14.01.2022 19:23, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> >>> As soon is I type 'set console="comconsole"' my input has gone... >> The loader supports "d

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.01.2022 19:23, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > As soon is I type 'set console="comconsole"' my input has gone... The loader supports "dual console" mode: console="comconsole vidconsole" comconsole_port="0x3f8" # default for COM1, use 0x2f8 for COM2 comconsole_speed=115200 boot_multicons="YES" T

Re: Trying to boot a supermicro H8DMT board

2022-01-14 Thread Eugene Grosbein
14.01.2022 17:27, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Hi, > > I was given these SMC h8DMT boards to experiment with. > (For liquid cooling) > > Theze are server board that normally go into twin board systems. > 2 Opteron 2380 per board. > > It sort of boots, and gets to: > Beasty loader > then

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-22:06.libalias

2022-01-11 Thread Eugene Grosbein
> = > FreeBSD-EN-22:06.libalias Errata Notice > The FreeBSD Project > > Topic: Incorrect fragmented IPv4 packet handl

Re: Odd performance problems with Lenovo L15

2022-01-10 Thread Eugene Grosbein
10.01.2022 12:12, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I continue to see odd performance issues and just noticed something I can put > my finger on that may explain it. It has gone from odd to totally off the > rails. Any ideas will be appreciated. > > Normally, on an idle system I see all CPUs running at fu

Re: What is FreeBSD 12 equivalent to Linux' "sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280"?

2021-12-30 Thread Eugene Grosbein
30.12.2021 20:09, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > On 30.12.2021 14:48, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > net-p2p/monero-cli shows a lot of exceptions on FreeBSD. Monero's github [1] says, that it needs "sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280" on Linux. What is FreeBSD equivalent for this Linux' setti

Re: What is FreeBSD 12 equivalent to Linux' "sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280"?

2021-12-29 Thread Eugene Grosbein
30.12.2021 7:21, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 29.12.2021 21:52, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >> Hello! >> >> net-p2p/monero-cli shows a lot of exceptions on FreeBSD. Monero's github >> [1] says, that it needs "sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280" on Linux. >

Re: What is FreeBSD 12 equivalent to Linux' "sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280"?

2021-12-29 Thread Eugene Grosbein
29.12.2021 21:52, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello! > > net-p2p/monero-cli shows a lot of exceptions on FreeBSD. Monero's github [1] > says, that it needs "sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280" on Linux. > What is FreeBSD equivalent for this Linux' setting? Perhaps, you need to increase sysctl vm.max_

Re: FreeBSD and interface errors/drops

2021-12-25 Thread Eugene Grosbein
26.12.2021 0:15, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: [skip] That could be some software bug/regression. Are you in position to bisect the issue? Start comparing 12.1-RELEASE with 12.2-RELEASE. Then go to bisecting STABLE branch.

Re: [ahd driver] 12.3: kernel crash when stopping disks

2021-12-09 Thread Eugene Grosbein
09.12.2021 19:23, Peter wrote: >> Dec 5 01:08:25 edge gstopd[64139]: Error received from stop >> unit command >> Dec 5 01:08:25 edge kernel: ahd0: Recovery Initiated - Card was >> not paused >> Dec 5 01:08:25 edge kernel: >> Dump Card State >> Begins < >> D

Re: 12.3: "swapon -a" crashes the system

2021-12-08 Thread Eugene Grosbein
09.12.2021 13:11, Peter wrote: > if you run out of swapspace and you think you might just create > some extra devices and add them to /etc/fstab and then run "swapon -a" > to enable them, don't do that. > > The result might look like this: > kernel: pid 12296 (daemon), jid 5, uid 5100: exited on

Re: 12.3: vt driver does not provide virtual console terminals

2021-12-04 Thread Eugene Grosbein
05.12.2021 1:20, Peter wrote: > the (current default) vt console driver does not provide multiple > virtual terminals on VGA console (no KMS). Only one console terminal > is accessible. The others are present, they can be switched to with > Alt-Fn, but they provide no I/O and are just black. >

Re: swap_pager: cannot allocate bio

2021-11-27 Thread Eugene Grosbein
11.11.2021 11:43, Chris Ross wrote: >> On Nov 10, 2021, at 23:35, Chris Ross wrote: >> >> Hey all. I have a system that I’m trying to do some intensive CPU and I/O >> on. FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, amd64, 128GB RAM, hardware RAID1 OS volume, and a >> large (40TB) zpool where most of the I/O is hap

Re: 12.3-RC1 errors on boot and shutdown

2021-11-20 Thread Eugene Grosbein
21.11.2021 2:43, Eirik Øverby wrote: I've just fixed rctl part in HEAD: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=0c54fe172ad365e7e60d6249484a7579c18b7d2d > waitwhat? > This means we *can not* upgrade our 100+ systems upon release, because > we cannot at the same time roll out local c

Re: 12.3-RC1 errors on boot and shutdown

2021-11-20 Thread Eugene Grosbein
21.11.2021 2:43, Eirik Øverby wrote: >> Releng team announced that only critical fixes are accepted after RCs. >> This fix is not critical as it's easy to fix the script locally until >> official update. > > waitwhat? > This means we *can not* upgrade our 100+ systems upon release, because >

Re: 12.3-RC1 errors on boot and shutdown

2021-11-20 Thread Eugene Grosbein
20.11.2021 17:54, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > xargs: not found >>> >>> This one comes from /etc/rc.d/rctl. Consequentially, rctl rules will >>> not be loaded. >>> >>> The flaw was always there, but (for whatever reason) /etc/rc.d/rctl >>> is now run very early, *before* mountcritlocal. >>> And

Re: 12.3-RC1 errors on boot and shutdown

2021-11-20 Thread Eugene Grosbein
20.11.2021 7:51, Peter wrote: > Hija, > > when we're already at it: there are errors reported during startup > and shutdown. > > > In startup: > >> xargs: not found > > This one comes from /etc/rc.d/rctl. Consequentially, rctl rules will > not be loaded. > > The flaw was always there, but (

Re: Deprecating smbfs(5) and removing it before FreeBSD 14

2021-10-28 Thread Eugene Grosbein
28.10.2021 21:44, Ed Maste wrote: > The smbfs(5) filesystem supports only the obsolete SMBv1 protocol, and > I propose removing it for FreeBSD 14. I know the CHERI folks have been > using it but they plan to migrate away from it. It was broken for > months before they fixed it, so I suspect nobody

Re: Confusion with grep & locale?

2021-08-20 Thread Eugene Grosbein
20.08.2021 16:03, Helge Oldach wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm confused about the FreeBSD behaviour with respect to locale's > and grep - specifically, it seems case sensitivity is not handled > consistently when grepping character ranges. It looks to me like 11 and > 13 are not behaving consistently how

Re: Source upgrade to stable/11 amd64 broken

2021-08-11 Thread Eugene Grosbein
12.08.2021 1:56, Dimitry Andric wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 12:01 PM Paul Mather wrote: >>> On Aug 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Dimitry Andric wrote: >>>> On 11 Aug 2021, at 05:13, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm in process of u

Re: stable/12 buildkernel broken?

2021-07-15 Thread Eugene Grosbein
16.07.2021 12:54, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > Hi! > > I've just upgraded one of my 12.2-RELEASE/amd64 servers with gitup to > 12.2-STABLE (commit db306b0b412a0d14c8a25ab5194c82106a09d0e2), > buildworld and buildkernel went OK (GENERIC kernel), installed and rebooted > f

stable/12 buildkernel broken?

2021-07-15 Thread Eugene Grosbein
Hi! I've just upgraded one of my 12.2-RELEASE/amd64 servers with gitup to 12.2-STABLE (commit db306b0b412a0d14c8a25ab5194c82106a09d0e2), buildworld and buildkernel went OK (GENERIC kernel), installed and rebooted fine. Now it cannot rebuild a kernel, even GENERIC one: -

Re: Service started via service(8) fails

2021-05-27 Thread Eugene Grosbein
27.05.2021 15:18, Ingeborg Hellemo wrote: > FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p3 > > What, if any, difference is there between using 'service restart' > and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ restart'? > > I have this mindboggling situation where using 'service tac_plus restart' > leads to a service that is running but