Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-03-23 Thread Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
I am willing to be shepherd for this document . Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:41:30 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draf

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-03-21 Thread James Guichard
Dear WG: This email completes the WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment/

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-03-02 Thread Rishabh Parekh
James, We have published the next revision of the draft addressing your comments and fixing the typos. - Added SRH TLV processing to pseudo-code - Added description of mutable and immutable fields of SRH as mandated by Section 2 of RFC 8754 - Added description change for HMAC TLV processing as man

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
immediately and delete it! From: Rishabh Parekh [mailto:risha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:38 AM To: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Cc: SPRING WG List ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jingrong, Your suggestion, especially

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread James Guichard
Hi Rishabh, Just to be clear, I do not expect you to document how TLVs are to be processed just simply wording like 8754 and where in the logic that should happen: S06. If local configuration requires TLV processing { S07. Perform TLV processing (see TLV Processing) Jim From: Rishabh

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Jim, Fine. Will add SRH TLV processing to pseudo-code in next revision. -Rishabh On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 1:49 PM James Guichard < james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> wrote: > Hi Rishabh, > > > > Thanks. Adding where in the processing logic TLVs are processed (if > locally configured) I think is a wo

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread James Guichard
Hi Rishabh, Thanks. Adding where in the processing logic TLVs are processed (if locally configured) I think is a worthwhile update. Jim From: Rishabh Parekh Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 4:48 PM To: James Guichard Cc: SPRING WG List ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: WGLC for draft-ietf

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Jim, Thanks for diligently catching the typos in the document :) Will fix them in the next revision. As for SRH TLVs, they can be processed at Replication Node, if allowed by local configuration, before an incoming packet is replicated. I see RFC 8754 Section 4.3.1.1 SRH processing pseudo-code doe

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread Rishabh Parekh
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Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread James Guichard
gt; Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:spring-cha...@ietf.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Rishabh, Thank you for the new version. A few nits/comments: - Text in the abstract currently says “A SR Replication segmen

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
James, Rishabh and all, A short comment inline below. Regards, Sasha From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 4:11 PM To: Rishabh Parekh ; SPRING WG List Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread James Guichard
Hi Rishabh, Thank you for the new version. A few nits/comments: * Text in the abstract currently says "A SR Replication segment allows a packet to be replicated from a Replication Node to Downstream nodes". * Perhaps change to -> ""A SR Replication segment allows a packet to be repl

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-28 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
half Of Rishabh Parekh Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 3:57 AM To: SPRING WG List Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment We have published revision 12 of the draft. Main changes include: - Pseudo-code for SRv6 End.Replicate - Descripti

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-27 Thread Rishabh Parekh
We have published revision 12 of the draft. Main changes include: - Pseudo-code for SRv6 End.Replicate - Description and example of ping to a Replication SID - Changes to text to address comments from Bruno, Jim and Joel Please review. Thanks, -Rishabh On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 4:06 PM Rishabh Par

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-24 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Jim, The text you refer to in Section 2.1 and .2.2 has changed after addressing comments since the last revision, but we will try to incorporate the suggested change. Thanks, -Rishabh On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 8:06 AM James Guichard < james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> wrote: > Hi Rishabh & authors,

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-20 Thread James Guichard
Hi Rishabh & authors, To close out this discussion, in sections 2.1 and 2.2 we have: There MAY be SIDs after the Replication SID in the segment list of a packet. These SIDs are used to provide additional context for processing a packet locally at the node where the Replication SID is the Active

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-20 Thread James Guichard
Hi Jingrong, Please see inline. From: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 4:39 AM To: Joel Halpern ; James Guichard ; bruno.decra...@orange.com Cc: SPRING WG Subject: RE: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Joel, and the WG chairs, As I

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-20 Thread James Guichard
Hi Jingrong, Please see inline. From: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 3:02 AM To: James Guichard ; Joel Halpern ; bruno.decra...@orange.com Cc: SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Jim, and WG

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-20 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
delete it! From: spring [mailto:spring-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel Halpern Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 10:55 PM To: Rishabh Parekh ; James Guichard Cc: bruno.decra...@orange.com; SPRING WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Would it make

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-20 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
, 2023 10:08 PM To: Rishabh Parekh Cc: bruno.decra...@orange.com; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Rishabh, Please see inline [Jim] On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 6:58 AM James Guichard mailto:james.n.guich...@future

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-19 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
.com; SPRING WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jim, In addition to RFC 8754 Section 4.3.1, the following text from RFC 8986 Section 4 also supports the claim the Replication SID is valid within SRv6 architecture. The list is not exhaustive. In practice, any

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-17 Thread Rishabh Parekh
ication SID) defined in the draft. > > > > [Jim] Section 4.3.1 of RFC 8754 would appear to agree with you but I > welcome the WGs comments on this if there is disagreement. > > > > Jim > > > > > > *From:* James Guichard > *Sent:* Thursday, Februar

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-16 Thread James Guichard
Jim From: James Guichard Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:14 AM To: James Guichard ; Rishabh Parekh Cc: bruno.decra...@orange.com; SPRING WG Subject: RE: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Rishabh, For some unknown reason my full responses were truncated. Here

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-16 Thread Joel Halpern
Would it make sense to note (in an operability section or similar) that the replication behavior does under soem circumstances result in a packet with a partially processed segment list in an SRH and a destination address that does not appear explicitly or by mechanical manipulation in the SRH?

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-16 Thread James Guichard
AM To: James Guichard Cc: SPRING WG ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; Rishabh Parekh Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Jim, and the WG: Thank you Jim and the chairs very much for all of your patience to my comments on this topic. For the question: “you

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-16 Thread James Guichard
s Guichard Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:08 AM To: Rishabh Parekh Cc: bruno.decra...@orange.com; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Rishabh, Please see inline [Jim] On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 6:58 AM James Guichard ma

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-16 Thread James Guichard
Hi Rishabh, Please see inline [Jim] On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 6:58 AM James Guichard mailto:james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>> wrote: Hi Rishabh, Authors, & WG: Having reviewed the latest version of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment/

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-15 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
oun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 12:05 AM To: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; Rishabh Parekh Cc: SPRING WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Jingrong & document authors, I would li

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-15 Thread Rishabh Parekh
James, On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 8:05 AM James Guichard < james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> wrote: > Hi Jingrong & document authors, > > > > I would like for now to leave aside the issue of whether or not > application/VPN specifics should be outside the scope of this SPRING > document (I will howeve

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-15 Thread Rishabh Parekh
James, Replies inline @ [RP] On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 6:58 AM James Guichard < james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> wrote: > Hi Rishabh, Authors, & WG: > > > > Having reviewed the latest version of > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment/ >

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-15 Thread James Guichard
Thanks! Jim From: spring On Behalf Of Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 9:55 AM To: bruno.decra...@orange.com; Rishabh Parekh Cc: SPRING WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi WG, I don’t agree with Bruno’s point that “this draft could be

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-15 Thread James Guichard
half Of Rishabh Parekh Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 1:07 PM To: bruno.decra...@orange.com Cc: SPRING WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Thanks for the review Bruno. Responses inline @ [RP] -Rishabh On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 1:27 AM mailto:bruno.decra...@

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-10 Thread Rishabh Parekh
useful to cover this in the document. > [RP] Will take a look and see what we can cover. > > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > > --Bruno > > > > > > Orange Restricted > > *From:* spring *On Behalf Of *James Guichard > *Sent:* Tuesday, January

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-10 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
: Rishabh Parekh Cc: SPRING WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi Rishabh, authors Speaking as an individual contributor. Following a request, I've done a review of the latest version of the draft. Please find below some proposed comments. -- As a ge

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-02-10 Thread bruno.decraene
: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi WG: Just a quick update on the status of this WGLC. The authors are working on the various comments received so far on the list and will also most likely publish a new version of the do

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-29 Thread Gyan Mishra
al disclosure, reproduction, > or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is > prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender > by phone or email immediately and delete it! > > > > *From:* Gyan Mishra [mailto:hayabusa...@gmail.com] >

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-28 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
12:04 AM To: SPRING WG mailto:spring@ietf.org>> Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:spring-cha...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi WG: Just a quick update on the status of this WGLC. The authors are working on the various comments receiv

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-23 Thread Gyan Mishra
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Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-19 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
delete it! From: Rishabh Parekh [mailto:risha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 11:15 AM To: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Cc: James Guichard ; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jingrong, Your point [1] (Context SID in

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-17 Thread Rishabh Parekh
elete it! > > > > *From:* spring [mailto:spring-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *James > Guichard > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2023 12:04 AM > *To:* SPRING WG > *Cc:* spring-cha...@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-13 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
y 11, 2023 12:04 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi WG: Just a quick update on the status of this WGLC. The authors are working on the various comments received so far on the list and will also most likely publis

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-10 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Dhruv, All of your suggestions make sense. I will incorporate them in the next revision. Thanks, -Rishabh On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 8:34 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > Hi Rishabh, > > Thanks for your response, snipping... > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:14 PM Rishabh Parekh > wrote: > >> Dhruv, >> Thank

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-10 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi Rishabh, Thanks for your response, snipping... On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:14 PM Rishabh Parekh wrote: > Dhruv, > Thanks for the review. Comments inline @ [RP] > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:00 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > >> >> ## Major >> * For a standard track document, IMHO you need to clearly

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-10 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Dhruv, Thanks for the review. Comments inline @ [RP] On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:00 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > > ## Major > * For a standard track document, IMHO you need to clearly specify the size > of Replication-ID. > >In simplest case, Replication-ID can be a 32-bit number, but it can >

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-10 Thread James Guichard
Hi WG: Just a quick update on the status of this WGLC. The authors are working on the various comments received so far on the list and will also most likely publish a new version of the document once all comments have been addressed. For this reason the chairs will keep this WGLC open until tho

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-04 Thread Gyan Mishra
olution for SR-MPLS >>> data plane (so far). >>> >>> >>> >>> For #3 with SRv6 data plane, while in concept it is similar to #3 with >>> MPLS (the FUNCT bits of an SRv6 SID are the equivalent of P2MP label), we >>> do need the replication seg

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-03 Thread Gyan Mishra
s the replication segment concept and >> defines the corresponding SRv6 endpoint behavior. It provides the building >> block for replication trees in SR network that are not necessarily set up >> via traditional means, and it does not exclude other solutions. >> >> >

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-03 Thread Gyan Mishra
not necessarily set up > via traditional means, and it does not exclude other solutions. > > > > Thanks. > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > Juniper Business Use Only > > *From:* spring *On Behalf Of *Aijun Wang > *Sent:* Saturday, December 10, 2022

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2023-01-02 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi, Apologies for a late response but since the LC has not been officially closed, let me slip in my review! :) -- # draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Hi, IMHO there are some issues in the document that require fixing before we send the document to IESG. ## Major * For a standard track

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-16 Thread Rishabh Parekh
gt; by phone or email immediately and delete it! > > > > *From:* Rishabh Parekh [mailto:risha...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:52 AM > *To:* Xiejingrong (Jingrong) > *Cc:* James Guichard ; SPRING WG < > spring@ietf.org>; spring-cha...@ietf.org > *Subjec

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-12 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
ring-cha...@ietf.org; Huaimo Chen Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi, Joel and Robert: I think we should clarify what’s kind of state is that we are talking first before making any assertions. What we should avoi

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-12 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
t the scope limitation should be explicitly stated in the relevant drafts. My 2c, Sasha From: spring On Behalf Of Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong) Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:16 PM To: James Guichard ; SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-s

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-12 Thread Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
Hi authors and WG, I have gone through the thread and find it is still not very clear to me about how to handle MVPN in IPv6 case when using replication segment. Based on my understanding, there are 2 options here: 1. Every multicast service flow uses different replication segments withou

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-11 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
ilto:spring-cha...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jingrong, For the second one regarding the SID after the replication SID, I still have some further question when considering it a “VPN SID”: In MPLS data plane, Is the SID an Upstream-ass

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-11 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Sasha, Inline @ [RP] On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 3:43 AM Alexander Vainshtein < alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > More questions regarding the definition of the Replication State of a > Replication Segment: > > > > The draft states that: > > > > If a Downstream Node is an egress (ak

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-11 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Hi all, More questions regarding the definition of the Replication State of a Replication Segment: The draft states that: If a Downstream Node is an egress (aka leaf) of the multi-point service, i.e. no further replication is needed, then that leaf node's Replication segment will not have any

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-11 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Hi all, I have a technical question on the following aspect of the SR Replication Segment for Multi-point Service Delivery draft. The draft states that: A Replication segment is identifi

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-10 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Joel and Robert:I think we should clarify what’s kind of state is that we are talking first before making any assertions.What we should avoid in Segments Routing panoramic view is that we shouldn’t introduce the per-flow state within the network.Consider the different multicast services require

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-10 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
] Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:52 AM To: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Cc: James Guichard ; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jingrong, For the second one regarding the SID after the replication SID, I still have some

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-10 Thread Robert Raszuk
Joel, Yes IMO your understanding is correct. That does also mean that anyone who is making assertions that the subject document is introducing per flow "state" is just wrong or simply does not understand SR dogmas. Cheers, Robert. On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 12:42 AM Joel Halpern wrote: > Speak

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-10 Thread Joel Halpern
Speaking personally, my understanding of the "stateless" aspect of SR does not match what this email seems to describe. SR is path stateless.  There is no state related to specific paths across the network.  Any SID may be used, if it has relevant meaning, in any path. Advertising routers ha

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-10 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Rishabh:I agree with Huaimo here.You introduced the state at the Replication Node, as that also stated in your document:2.1. SR-MPLS data planeWhen the Active Segment is a Replication SID, the processing results in a POP operation and lookup of the associated Replication state….2.2. SRv6 data p

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Kamran Raza (skraza)
I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this document. Thanks, -- Kamran (as a Contributor of this doc) From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:11 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-repli

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Huaimo, The Replication Segment as defined in this draft, with Replication Node at ingress of SR domain and downstream nodes at the egress of SR domain does not need any state in core nodes. -Rishabh On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 1:53 PM Huaimo Chen wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > It seems that the core

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Rishabh Parekh
; James Guichard ; SPRING WG < > spring@ietf.org>; spring-cha...@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment > > > > *[External Email. Be cautious of content]* > > > > Shraddha, > > > > As I clarified to Jingron in a

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Huaimo Chen
Hi Everyone, It seems that the core value of segment routing is stateless (in the core of a network). The document defines a new type of segment for Segment Routing [RFC8402], called Replication segment. Using Replication segment is not stateless. This is not consistent with the core value

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Rishabh, Pls see inline.. Juniper Business Use Only From: Rishabh Parekh Sent: Friday, December 9, 2022 10:50 PM To: Shraddha Hegde Cc: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) ; James Guichard ; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Shraddha, As I clarified to Jingron in an earlier email in this thread, this restriction applies to Replication nodes, not to intermediate nodes on the paths between upstream and downstream replication nodes. Even if two replication nodes in an Anycast set or PeerSet have the same Replication SI

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-09 Thread Shraddha Hegde
uniper Business Use Only From: spring On Behalf Of Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 2:01 PM To: Rishabh Parekh Cc: James Guichard ; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment [External Email. Be cautious

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-08 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
it! From: Rishabh Parekh [mailto:risha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:52 AM To: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Cc: James Guichard ; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jingrong, For the second one regarding the SID

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-07 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Jingrong, For the second one regarding the SID after the replication SID, I still > have some further question when considering it a “VPN SID”: > > > > In MPLS data plane, Is the SID an Upstream-assigned Label ? Or an SRGB > label (though may be a more strictly unique number than SRGB that is a >

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-07 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
Parekh [mailto:risha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 6:32 AM To: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) Cc: James Guichard ; SPRING WG ; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Jingrong, In section 2.1 and 2.2, it says “An Anycast SID or BGP

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-06 Thread Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw)
As a contributor, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this document. Regards Swadesh From: James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: "spring-cha...@ietf.org" Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Dear WG: This emai

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-06 Thread Hassen, Clayton
As a contributor I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR -- CH From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: "spring-cha...@ietf.org" Subject: [EXT][spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Dear WG: This email starts a

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-06 Thread Rishabh Parekh
Jingrong, In section 2.1 and 2.2, it says “An Anycast SID or BGP PeerSID MUST NOT appear in segment list preceding a Replication SID.” I don’t know BGP PeerSID very well, but for anycast SID, I think it may be useful and suitable to appear in seg list preceding a Replication SID. Can you please

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-06 Thread Tanmoy Kundu (Nokia)
I am not aware of undisclosed IPR related to this draft. Thanks, Tanmoy From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 7:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Dear WG: This email starts a 2

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-06 Thread Voyer, Daniel
Hi, As author, I am not aware of any IPR and believe it is ready for publication. Regards, Dan From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: "spring-cha...@ietf.org" Subject: [EXT][spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-seg

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-06 Thread Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)
I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR for this document. Cheers, Clarence From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 16:10 To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Dear WG: This email starts a 2-

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-05 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
Hi PIM & MSR6 : I feel the last-calling document in SPRING may be useful to understand MSR6 and related work. This Spring document[1] defines an SRv6 SID End.Replicate to perform a multipoint transport behavior statefully. The MSR6 document[2] defines an SRv6 SID End.RGB to perform a multipoin

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-05 Thread Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
Hi WG and authors, I have read this document and have some questions. In section 2.1 and 2.2, it says “An Anycast SID or BGP PeerSID MUST NOT appear in segment list preceding a Replication SID.” I don’t know BGP PeerSID very well, but for anycast SID, I think it may be useful and suitable to ap

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-05 Thread Gyan Mishra
I support publication. This is a an important draft for operators migrating to Segment Routing that require Multicast support. Thanks Gyan On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:10 AM James Guichard < james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> wrote: > Dear WG: > > > > This email starts a 2-week Working Group Last

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-05 Thread Tarek Saad
Hi all, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR for this document. I have contributed and reviewed this draft and I believe it is ready for publication. Regards, Tarek From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-02 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
Dear chairs and the WG, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR for this document. I have contributed and reviewed this draft and believe it to be ready for the publication. Thanks Regards … Zafar From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:11 AM To: SPRING

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-02 Thread Arvind Venkateswaran (arvvenka)
As a contributor, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this document. Thanks, Arvind. On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:11 AM James Guichard mailto:james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>> wrote: Dear WG: This email starts a 2-week Working Group Last Call for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-02 Thread Rishabh Parekh
As a co-author, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR for this draft. On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:11 AM James Guichard < james.n.guich...@futurewei.com> wrote: > Dear WG: > > > > This email starts a 2-week Working Group Last Call for > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-sr-replica

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-02 Thread Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia)
Hello As a co-author I am not aware of any IPR against this draft Thanks Hooman From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 10:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Dear WG: This email s

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-02 Thread Andrew Stone (Nokia)
Hello, As a contributor, I am not aware of any IPR related to this document. Thanks Andrew From: spring on behalf of James Guichard Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:11 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: "spring-cha...@ietf.org" Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment Dear

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-12-02 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
I am not aware of undisclosed IPR related to this draft. Juniper Business Use Only From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 10:10 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment [External Email. Be

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment

2022-10-19 Thread James Guichard
Dear WG: Unfortunately the chairs timing on this WGLC overlooked the policy that we just introduced to add an implementation section BEFORE WGLC. We apologize for the oversight. Therefore we are canceling this WGLC and ask that the authors update the document and once that has happened the chai