Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-17 Thread Ian Jackson
MJ Ray writes ("Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI"): > Another reason is that SPI is controlled by developers and not users. > Would you address that and how? If I may answer a question addressed to another candidate: I think it's correct that SPI is controll

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-14 Thread Tim Post
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:51 -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 11:13:45AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > opportunity. Can you give an example of an illegitimate one, please? > > I don't know if others can, but I can. Consider a talk on "open > source" that argues that some classes

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 11:13:45AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > opportunity. Can you give an example of an illegitimate one, please? I don't know if others can, but I can. Consider a talk on "open source" that argues that some classes of license -- e.g. GNU Copyleft -- are dangerous to the American Wa

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread MJ Ray
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] is an example of a legitimate-but-not-possible talk > > opportunity. Can you give an example of an illegitimate one, please? > > I would be hard pressed to sponsor a Debian developer to go present a > talk to a group of other

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:43:36PM -0400, David Graham wrote: > As with any corporation, the purpose must be set out at its founding > and it is my understanding that this purpose cannot be changed. This is entirely incidental to the main thrust of the discussion, but the corporate purposes can be

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:43:36PM -0400, David Graham wrote: That's a point on the surface, but I don't necessarily see it that way: I am not suggesting that SPI not actively help its projects cooperate or even advocate, only that we do so by the request of our member proje

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:43:36PM -0400, David Graham wrote: > That's a point on the surface, but I don't necessarily see it that way: I > am not suggesting that SPI not actively help its projects cooperate or > even advocate, only that we do so by the request of our member projects, > and not on

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 12:04:38PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >>* Work to have all associative projects work together to provide a more > >>influential presence to communities, governments and businesses. > >So I guess my question is are you willing to make those sort of goals > >independent o

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
David Graham wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: In essence, my platform is the charter. I just didn't want to cut and paste ;) The purpose of the charter is to outline the list of anything and everything we are allowed to do as an incorporated non-profit, not a list That do

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread David Graham
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Our charter clearly states: > > * To create, form and establish an organization to formulate and > provide software systems for use by the general public without charge; > * to teach and train individuals regarding the use and application > of

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 07:44:41AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: * A more physical presence of SPI and the associative projects at well known events such as OSCON, LinuxWorld, and USENIX. * Working in FOSS hubs (such as S.F., Seattle and Portland) to foster workshops, talks

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 07:44:41AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > * A more physical presence of SPI and the associative projects at well > known events such as OSCON, LinuxWorld, and USENIX. > > * Working in FOSS hubs (such as S.F., Seattle and Portland) to foster > workshops, talks and training

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread MJ Ray
Frank Warmerdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] However, I do think it means you have no mandate about > > it, so if it is not urgent, then you should abstain. > > I would be very disturbed by any candidate planning to abstain from any > vote not addressed in their platform.

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Frank Warmerdam
MJ Ray wrote: "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5. Will you abstain from votes about things not mentioned in your platform? No, I think that would be silly. Just because it isn't in my platform doesn't mean I don't have an opinion. Probably not. However, I do think it means you ha

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread David Graham
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > > "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I plan on actively recruiting new projects. There are many, many FOSS > >> projects out there that could use SPI services, that have no idea who we > >> are. > > > > There are also many

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
MJ Ray wrote: "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MJ Ray wrote: If we have two people that want sponsorship. One is talking to Ohio Linux Fest, the other is keynote at FOSSDEM. I would think that assuming the ability to only sponsor one talk, we would sponsor the FOSSDEM talk. If

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
MJ Ray wrote: "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I plan on actively recruiting new projects. There are many, many FOSS projects out there that could use SPI services, that have no idea who we are. There are also many who know who SPI are and then still set up independent foundations

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread MJ Ray
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > > 2. Can you give an example of an illegitimate talk opportunity? > > That is a tough one. I wrote illegitimate because I wanted people to > know that each talk would be considered and that it is not an open bank. > It may not be the

Re: [Spi-private] Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-13 Thread MJ Ray
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I plan on actively recruiting new projects. There are many, many FOSS > projects out there that could use SPI services, that have no idea who we > are. There are also many who know who SPI are and then still set up independent foundations anyway. D

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Tim Post
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 14:36 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Tim Post wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:35 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > >> Tim Post wrote: > >> > >>> Do you feel resources should be put into finding new and promising > >>> projects prior to 'chicken hawkers' approaching? > >>> >

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tim Post wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:35 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Tim Post wrote: Do you feel resources should be put into finding new and promising projects prior to 'chicken hawkers' approaching? How do we lure developers from closing off with "as a service" products that can be offe

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Tim Post
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:35 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Tim Post wrote: > > > Do you feel resources should be put into finding new and promising > > projects prior to 'chicken hawkers' approaching? > > > > How do we lure developers from closing off with "as a service" products > > that can be

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tim Post wrote: > Do you feel resources should be put into finding new and promising > projects prior to 'chicken hawkers' approaching? > > How do we lure developers from closing off with "as a service" products > that can be offered free but aren't F/LOSS which seems to be the candy > the 'chick

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tim Post wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 09:06 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Defining a quality project is a bit difficult, it is also fairly biased on my part. In my mind a quality project has been shown to have members that participate in the FOSS community in general, have an open forum for d

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Tim Post
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 09:06 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Defining a quality project is a bit difficult, it is also fairly biased > on my part. In my mind a quality project has been shown to have members > that participate in the FOSS community in general, have an open forum > for discussion,

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/votes/vote6/jdrake.txt I am inviting anyone who has any questions to ask them. I see that you plan * An agressive increase in the number and quality of associate projects Question is: how are you plannin

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
MJ Ray wrote: "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/votes/vote6/jdrake.txt I am inviting anyone who has any questions to ask them. I also copied spi-private on this because I know there are people on private that are not on -general. On the platfor

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Hello, > > I have been nominated to run for board this year and I have accepted. > You can see my "reasons why" here: > > http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/votes/vote6/jdrake.txt > > I am inviting anyone who has any questions to ask them. I see that you plan * An a

Re: Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-12 Thread MJ Ray
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/votes/vote6/jdrake.txt > I am inviting anyone who has any questions to ask them. On the platform: 1. Should "associative projects" be associated projects? 2. Can you give an example of an illegitimate talk opportunity?

Inviting questions from SPI

2007-07-11 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello, I have been nominated to run for board this year and I have accepted. You can see my "reasons why" here: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/votes/vote6/jdrake.txt I am inviting anyone who has any questions to ask them. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Co