[SAtalk] local.cf sample

2002-09-17 Thread Glynn S. Condez
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Re: [SAtalk] Can someone please tell me how to get an answer from this list?

2002-09-17 Thread Justin Mason
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Bart Schaefer wrote: > The procmail bug happens when the filter program does something that > procmail doesn't expect. Exactly what that something is, hasn't been > confirmed by anyone on the procmail list. It might be exiting with a > nonzero status, or it might be produc

Re: [SAtalk] how to handle white listed falsified From: address

2002-09-17 Thread Justin Mason
Gary Funck said: > Do you have any suggestions on how to handle this situation? Since users > sometimes send e-mail to themselves, it isn't approrpiate to trap on that > criteria. upgrade to 2.41, the auto-whitelist in that version avoids that problem; it tracks IPs as well as names. --j. ---

Re: [SAtalk] This message gets mere 3.9 points with SA-2.41

2002-09-17 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler said: > There's very little content that would be unique to pornographic spam. You > could probably create rules which match "psycho sluts" and "fucking whores" > and have some points added to them, but the S/O ratio will not be very good. worth noting that the bayesian code will

Re: [SAtalk] How to filter this trash?

2002-09-17 Thread Mike Burger
I'm thinking "antivirus application" On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Ed Greenberg wrote: > I get a bunch of mail that looks like this: > > >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) > > by hagrid.greenberg.org (Postfix) with ESMT

[SAtalk] S/O ratio?

2002-09-17 Thread Skip Montanaro
I've seen several recent references in SA-talk to "S/O" and "S/O Ratio". I don't find it mentioned in the 2.30 sources I have laying about and googling for it didn't turn up any obvious winners either. All I can think of is "Spam to Ollie ratio". What is it really? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro [E

Re: [SAtalk] SA on Novell

2002-09-17 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 08:53:02PM -0600, Darryl Bleau wrote: > I'm trying to get SA to run on Novell (Perl 5.6). Has anyone else tried this? My >major issue seems to be HTML::Parser which uses Parser.xs. I've tried to compile it >as an NLM with some success, however it complains a lot about mis

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 method not found

2002-09-17 Thread Caines, Max
Hi Theo, My "site_perl" path doesn't include the Perl version for "historical" reasons. SA and Razor2 are indeed in the same area: Razor2 and Mail are both in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl. I installaed both manually, rather than via CPAN (which keeps trying to upgrade my version of Perl while p

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin and unconfirmed.dsbl.org

2002-09-17 Thread Richard Hopkins
Just for info, in case those of you using SpamAssassin are suffering similarly... >From 06:40 (BST) this morning, SpamAssassin (version 2.31 running on 3 different servers) started taking a minimum of 28 seconds to process a message. I've done quite a bit of poking about with it and it appears

[SAtalk] Start-Up Script 9 Newbie Question

2002-09-17 Thread Doug Appleton
Hi'ya folks.. Hopefully the woes of installing SA have finally been solved.. Anyone know the location of perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.31, and where the start-up scripts are located.. It may not be the lastest version, but knock on wood I haven't recieved any errors so far.. Always.. Doug -

RE: [SAtalk] how to handle white listed falsified From: address

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Justin Mason > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 4:09 AM > To: Gary Funck > Cc: Spamassassin List > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] how to handle white listed falsified From: address > > > > > Gary Funck said

Re: [SAtalk] SA on Novell

2002-09-17 Thread Ein Bielaczyc
I have to agree with Ross. I too have the Novell monkey on my back, to the tune of 50+ NW5.1 servers. But I don't use any of them to filter email. If you can spare the hardware, a Un*x machine is your best option. I was able to build a box running RedHat 7.2, Qmail, Qmail-Queue-Scanner and Spa

Re: [SAtalk] More research for a management proposal.

2002-09-17 Thread Ein Bielaczyc
Hi Joe, I am the network admin for a fairly large school district. We have some 5000+ users and at least 2000 of them use our email system. Our network configuration, like so many other school districts, is largely based on Novell Netware. Our email system is Novell's Groupwise. Groupwise's in

Re: [SAtalk] How to filter this trash?

2002-09-17 Thread Ed Greenberg
At 06:15 AM 9/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I'm thinking "antivirus application" > >On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Ed Greenberg wrote: > > > I get a bunch of mail that looks like this: > > By the time I see it, it's mime has somehow been broken. It just shows up as ascii text. My virus checker(s) (McAfee on

[SAtalk] Re: Question re: handlespam

2002-09-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 09:17:35PM -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: > Last week you asked to see one of the emails that causes spamassassin to > stop. This one caused it to end with a "Broken pipe" I think I've figured this out... The "dccproc: command not found" bug was fixed for checking, but not repo

[SAtalk] How to filter win-a-bike?

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
A new one dropped in today: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 17 02:32:10 2002 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from domain.com (IDENT:vJOZX4JS12QEzRRGzbZm0jNb9/n3FOaJ@domain [192.99.99.1]) by domain.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g8H9W9V20563 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

RE: [SAtalk] how to handle white listed falsified From: address

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
> > > > upgrade to 2.41, the auto-whitelist in that version avoids that problem; > > it tracks IPs as well as names. > > > > Thanks Jason (and Bret). I installed 2.41 (via CPAN) and it fixed the > problem. >- Gary er, make that Bart (Schaefer). Thanks again. - Gary ---

Re: [SAtalk] More research for a management proposal.

2002-09-17 Thread Michael Leone
Ein Bielaczyc said: > Hi Joe, > > I am the network admin for a fairly large school district. We have some > 5000+ users and at least 2000 of them use our email system. Our network > configuration, like so many other school districts, is largely based on > Novell Netware. Netware good. > Our ema

[SAtalk] pop3proxy site?

2002-09-17 Thread A KXDBFAN
Hi all, I was trying to get the pop3proxy software mentioned in the Spamassassin "where" page, but it appears that the site is down. (Some type of Dynamic DNS site). Anyone know of an alternate site to get it from? _ Chat wi

[SAtalk] Upgrade 2.41?

2002-09-17 Thread Eric Mings
I noticed since the latest version was released that a variety of people have mentioned that it hasn't worked as well (rules changes) for them as the earlier version. I remember someone suggesting waiting for 2.5 before updating. Any thoughts on this? I would like to update but not sure whether to

Re: [SAtalk] S/O ratio?

2002-09-17 Thread Justin Mason
Skip Montanaro said: > > I've seen several recent references in SA-talk to "S/O" and "S/O Ratio". I > don't find it mentioned in the 2.30 sources I have laying about and googling > for it didn't turn up any obvious winners either. All I can think of is > "Spam to Ollie ratio". What is it real

[SAtalk] Running SA as a user app?

2002-09-17 Thread Chris
Can anybody point me to a project/FAQ similar to this:? 1. Perl script fetches POP mail from a distant server 2. mail is fed to SA, running as a standalone module in my user account 3. SA spits out results back to perl script. 4. Script deletes offending mail. I don't have root access. I don't

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 method not found

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
> > razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't locate object > method "new" via package "Razor2::Client::Agent" at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 374. > > I can't see what changes between the two ways of running SA. Razor > itself seems to work properly

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 method not found

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
follow up: > > - I'm a bit confused regarding the distinction between Razor, and > Razor2. I > added the Razor package via CPAN, but I see from e-mail traffic > on this list > that if I'm running SA version 2.41, I should go to Razor2? I did see a > installation warning message similar to the one

Re: [SAtalk] S/O ratio?

2002-09-17 Thread Theodore Heise
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Justin Mason wrote: > (Excuse my use of the "ham" terminology, but I like it ;) I'm sure it's not kosher, but I like it to. -- Theodore Heise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> West Lafayette, IN, USA --- This SF.NET email is

Re: [SAtalk] how to handle white listed falsified From: address

2002-09-17 Thread Justin Mason
"Gary Funck" said: > > Thanks Jason (and Bret). I installed 2.41 (via CPAN) and it fixed the > > problem. > >- Gary > er, make that Bart (Schaefer). Thanks again. - Gary ...and Justin ;) --j. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD -

RE: [SAtalk] Upgrade 2.41?

2002-09-17 Thread McClung, Darren W.
I upgraded from 2.31 to 2.41 w/Razor2 about a week ago and have noticed a substantial improvement. Many fewer false-positives, (none so far) and no false negatives. I'd say go ahead and upgrade. Darren _ I noticed since the latest version was released that a va

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 method not found

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
follow up: > > - I'm a bit confused regarding the distinction between Razor, and > > Razor2. I > > added the Razor package via CPAN, but I see from e-mail traffic > > on this list > > that if I'm running SA version 2.41, I should go to Razor2? I did see a > > installation warning message similar t

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 method not found

2002-09-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:19:10AM -0700, Gary Funck wrote: > - how has Vipul's Razor been working for you? I saw some reports about VR > taking a long time to process incoming messages. We don't have a lot of mail > traffic here, so that may not be an issue, but we'd like to know in advance > if

RE: [SAtalk] Running SA as a user app?

2002-09-17 Thread Steve Thomas
Try fetchmail. I've not used it, but I think it'll do exactly what you want, and you might not even need to wrap it in perl. From the man page: If no port 25 listener is available, but your fetchmail compilation detected or was told about a reliable local MDA, it will use t

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 method not found

2002-09-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:33:55PM +0100, Caines, Max wrote: > My "site_perl" path doesn't include the Perl version for "historical" > reasons. SA and Razor2 are indeed in the same area: Razor2 and Mail are > both in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl. I installaed both manually, Ok, that's valid as

[SAtalk] Getting spamassassin to tag spam using the ok_locales directive

2002-09-17 Thread Hill, Ronald
Hi All, I have a question on the directive ok_locales from the documentation: ok_locales xx [ yy zz ... ] (default: all) Which locales (country codes) are considered OK to receive mail from. Mail using character sets used by languages in these countries, will not be marked as possibly being spa

[SAtalk] Re: Bug#160628: amavis-postfix fails to upgrade or install

2002-09-17 Thread Mark Martinec
| > it seems like SA is trying to upgrade you preferences file | (and fails because it is run by amavisd-new in perl -T mode) | > Looks like a problem report for SA people. >From Brian May: | According to Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, who suddenly woke up | when I reassigned this bug to spa

[SAtalk] (No Subject) is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread dogface
i just thought i'd waste more bandwidth with yet another unanswered post. this will be the 4th time i have posted this question. i expect it will be the 4th time i do not get any kind of a response. i gather that SA people have an issue with postfix. most emails i have read about postfix and SA

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamassassin to tag spam using the ok_locales directive

2002-09-17 Thread Daniel Quinlan
"Hill, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi All, > > I have a question on the directive ok_locales from the documentation: > > ok_locales xx [ yy zz ... ] (default: all) > > Which locales (country codes) are considered OK to receive mail from. Mail > using character sets used by languages

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Bug#160628: amavis-postfix fails to upgrade or install

2002-09-17 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Mark Martinec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is hard to judge decisions made by SA people, when I'm not following > the discussions there closely. From amavisd-new standpoint it is > certainly unfortunately if SA must no longer be called with perl > in -T mode. This certainly worked in SA versi

RE: [SAtalk] spamassassin 2.41: spamc+spamd: e-mails concatenated

2002-09-17 Thread Smart, Dan
>From another list (for John Hardin's Sanitizer)... -- Snip --- On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 15:21, Brett Glass wrote: (Subject, dropped F at start of message.) > This problem is so common that maybe someone should publish an AQ > about it. ;-) Just had this happen the other day because

RE: [SAtalk] Klez + Worms, etc.

2002-09-17 Thread Smart, Dan
I use John Hardin's Sanitizer Procmail script for this. http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html <> |-Original Message- |From: Skip Montanaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:12 PM |To: Lars Hansson |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [SAtal

Re: [SAtalk] (No Subject) is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread Daniel Quinlan
"dogface" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i just thought i'd waste more bandwidth with yet another unanswered > post. this will be the 4th time i have posted this question. i > expect it will be the 4th time i do not get any kind of a response. > i gather that SA people have an issue with postfix.

[SAtalk] checking out Razor2 (and SA 2.41) install - Net::DNS:Resolver problem?

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
Hello, after installing Razor2, I had to bang through a few more installation difficulties. At this point, I've installed the following additional modules: Archive-Tar-0.22 Digest-Nilsimsa-0.06Net-Telnet-3.03 Attribute-Handlers-0.77 Digest-SHA1-2.01Params-Validate-0.2

Re: [SAtalk] (No Subject) is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread dogface
from what i have read on this list i would of expected nothing less than the response i got from you. A. after 3 posts maybe someone could have said that there are no options for what i am asking. B. i already said that i read all i could find because i did not get any help from this list. i hav

Re: [SAtalk] checking out Razor2 (and SA 2.41) install - Net::DNS:Resolver problem?

2002-09-17 Thread Justin Mason
"Gary Funck" said: > Hello, after installing Razor2, I had to bang through a few more > installation difficulties. At this point, I've installed the following > additional modules: > > Archive-Tar-0.22 Digest-Nilsimsa-0.06Net-Telnet-3.03 > Attribute-Handlers-0.77 Digest-SHA

Re: [SAtalk] (No Subject) is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 05:58:11PM -0500, dogface wrote: > from what i have read on this list > i would of expected nothing less than > the response i got from you. I'm confused. This mailing list is generally quite informative. > A. after 3 posts maybe someone could have said > that there are n

RE: [SAtalk] checking out Razor2 (and SA 2.41) install - Net::DNS:Resolver problem?

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Funck
Hi Justin, I'm a novice at the adiministration of Perl libraries (clearly), so am not sure how things are supposed to look when they work, but the following output from "make install" inside of the razor-agents-2.14 directory looked a little odd to me: # make install /bin/sh -c true /bin/sh -c t

[SAtalk] RE: postfix issues (was: No Subject)

2002-09-17 Thread SpamTalk
I would sack postfix before SA. Was any attempt made to query a postfix mailing list? Since postfix is installed, I assume that sendmail is not a viable alternative (to be honest I am waiting for the next release of amvis or spamass-milter. Someone mention mime-defang milter also supports SA but I

Re: [SAtalk] is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread Mike Leone
> Well, then few people know how to use SA with postfix. I use SA with > procmail. Of course, I won't be able to help you. There's a webpage somewhere that explicitly lists how to call SA from postfix as a content filter. http://www.advosys.ca/papers/postfix-filtering.html First Google hit on

Re: [SAtalk] RE: postfix issues (was: No Subject)

2002-09-17 Thread Mike Leone
* SpamTalk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 09 17, 02 at 22:25: > I would sack postfix before SA. Was any attempt made to query a postfix > mailing list? No need; see my earlier email. msg07860/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [SAtalk] (No Subject) is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread Gerry Doris
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 05:58:11PM -0500, dogface wrote: > > from what i have read on this list > > i would of expected nothing less than > > the response i got from you. > > I'm confused. This mailing list is generally quite informative. > > > A. af

Re: [SAtalk] RE: postfix issues (was: No Subject)

2002-09-17 Thread Mike Burger
I missed the original question...I'm assuming that someone wants to integrate SA into postfix without using procmail? My answer would be to try the /etc/postfix/master.cf file. In that file, you have options to pipe smtp sent mail through various options...in fact, it is through this file tha

Re: [SAtalk] is there a user-admin for SA with postfix

2002-09-17 Thread Mike Burger
And here is the answer...exactly like what I thought could be done. On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Mike Leone wrote: > > Well, then few people know how to use SA with postfix. I use SA with > > procmail. Of course, I won't be able to help you. > > There's a webpage somewhere that explicitly lists how to

[SAtalk] FWD: Postfix SPAMFILTER HOWTO updated/final]

2002-09-17 Thread Mike Leone
Saw this on the postfix list; thought it might be of use. Posting to the postfix list if you have questions that impact/interact with postfix is a good idea. - Forwarded message from Scott Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:08:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Henderson <

[SAtalk] Should there be a test for this tactic?

2002-09-17 Thread Rose, Bobby
I've been seeing some bounce messages and got curious... The messages bounce because the sender is bogus of course but the original message had this lovely header. Would it be a good idea to have a rule to check the To, From, and Reply-To for the same address. Received: (from daemon@localhost

[SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin-talk digest, Vol 1 #673 - 22 msgs

2002-09-17 Thread BCofer612
Is this one of your mailings? I didn't think you'd be sending attachments (although I don't worry too much about them, with Norton's AND a Mac! I'm just being careful... Thank you, Barbara Cofer --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD -

Re: [SAtalk] RE: postfix issues (was: No Subject)

2002-09-17 Thread Simon Matthews
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, SpamTalk wrote: > I would sack postfix before SA. Was any attempt made to query a postfix > mailing list? I can tell you that Postfix/Procmail/SA work very well together. I have another procmail/perl filters already running (an email sanitizer -- looks for dangerous execu