Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Jeff Morton
Yes and no. If there are patents involved, McAfee can excercise them to stop entirely the distribution of anything but their proprietary internal code. Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:36:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this acquisition as a sellout. Plain and si

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Malte S. Stretz write: MSS> On Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:16 CET Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: MSS> >[...] MSS> > What NetAss can do, via their employees running this project, is to MSS> > change the license somewhat... which won't hurt anyone today, next week MSS> >

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Paul Reilly
Does the aquisition of Deersoft by NAI mean that the key developers can no longer contribute code to the open source project? Will they be allowed to work on the open source code in work hours or will they just work on the proprietary code? Does their employment at NAI restrict them from coding in

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MSS" == Malte S Stretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> of the "what if 50% of all those uses of free versions actually paid us >> instead"-kind; and suddenly they're using their slightly changed license, >> or bruteforce lawyerpower, to make it damn hard to use SA. MSS> I trust Justin and C

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:16 CET Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: >[...] > What NetAss can do, via their employees running this project, is to > change the license somewhat... which won't hurt anyone today, next week > or even 3 months from now... but then someone at NetAss starts doing math > of the

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Mike Burger
Keep this in mindthere was a commercial and an open source version of this product/service. According to what's been written, here, the open source product will live on as an open source project. On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > And yes, it's 3 developers lost. Shame. > >

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Brian May
- Original Message - From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SATalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down) - Original Message - From: <

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Theo Van Dinter write: TVD> On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:23:44PM +0100, Malte S. Stretz wrote: TVD> > continues. Nobody can buy an open source project and make it closed source TVD> > without _all_ it's contributors agreeing on a license change. I for my own TVD> >

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Mark
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SATalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down) > I apologize for my rant being so long, and if I am wrong in my > assessments (and

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:23:44PM +0100, Malte S. Stretz wrote: > continues. Nobody can buy an open source project and make it closed source > without _all_ it's contributors agreeing on a license change. I for my own > won't. And the license change only effects new code. You can't relicense a

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:36:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I see this acquisition as a sellout. Plain and simple. And this comes from a > guy who has seen his fair share of business deals, and been approached > to "sell out" as well. Why do I say this? Because Mcaffee does not embrace

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 16:36 CET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[...] > Back on track, is there any talk of branching off this project into > another open source project with a different name, and continuing the > open source building? I have seen this done many times, such as Neomail > to Open Webm

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread rmang
> > And yes, it's 3 developers lost. Shame. > > Shame indeed but that's way it's gotta be, I suppose. Note: The following is a personal rant and is not indicative of any organization's or other people's opinions, nor is it from my right frame of mind :) [BEGIN RANT] I cannot disagree more with