Re: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-02 Thread Bill O'Hanlon
Oh, oops. I'm not using spamd, yet, for lame historical reasons. I'm calling spamassassin directly. -Bill On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 11:37:11AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > To turn it off, don't turn it on -- ie omit the "-a" flag to spamd. > > C > > On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 10:46, Bill O'Hanlon

RE: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-02 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
Get rid of the "-a" switch in spamd. --- Ed. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill > O'Hanlon > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 1:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] sitewide a

Re: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-02 Thread Craig Hughes
To turn it off, don't turn it on -- ie omit the "-a" flag to spamd. C On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 10:46, Bill O'Hanlon wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:52:57AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > critical bugs in the 2.0x release. For now, people might consider turning > off auto-whitelisting (

Re: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-02 Thread Bill O'Hanlon
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:52:57AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > critical bugs in the 2.0x release. For now, people might consider turning > off auto-whitelisting (particularly site-wide) if they don't want the > false-negative rate to go up. What's the best way to turn it off site-wide? I did

RE: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-01 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
> Just to reassure people -- I firmly believe that autowhitelisting can do a > very good job of reducing false positives from frequent non-spammer > correspondents. There's just a flaw in the current algorithm which wasn't > thought through terribly hard. Once I update the algorithm and re-relea

Re: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Just to reassure people -- I firmly believe that autowhitelisting can do a very good job of reducing false positives from frequent non-spammer correspondents. There's just a flaw in the current algorithm which wasn't thought through terribly hard. Once I update the algorithm and re-release AWL,

Re: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-01 Thread Craig Hughes
I think the only real solution to this problem (which is one I was aware of -- it crops up quickly even with per-user whitelists) is to change the way the auto-whitelisting works, to do the average score/regression to the mean system I talked about a few days ago. It's an enhancement I'm planning

RE: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-02-01 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
> > How does solve my original problem of false negatives? all that it would > take would be a few marginally spammy messages < 5 then once the > threshhold > is reached then they can Spam away! > > -- > Ed. > > I've seen this happen already with some stuff from directclick.com. Now the Spam h

RE: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-01-31 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
> >I was think about this exact same thing today, as I put SA into > production for my 400+ users (800+ email accounts - and without a > hiccup, I might add ;^). I wanted to have the default be to not filter > because that's what people are used to, so I set the default theshold to > 100 and

Re: [SAtalk] sitewide auto_whitelist db

2002-01-31 Thread Donald Greer
CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson wrote: > I have been testing the auto_whitelist (AWL) feature sitewide in a single > database and have come to realize that it does have a downside - namely that > if false negatives get thru then eventually their address is added to the > AWL and then SA will never c