Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 15:27, Matt Kettler wrote: > Unfortunately developing good rules is a very labor-intensive task. The > 2.5x family is, at least in my opinion, slightly weaker in the rules > department than some of its predecessors. This weakness in the rules is the > result of the effort

Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Jack Gostl
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 09:48 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > >What really worries me is the growing number of messages between 4.5 and > >5. Many of these already have a Bayes score of 90+. > > Agreed, this is why rule development for SA always has been, and always

Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:48 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: What really worries me is the growing number of messages between 4.5 and 5. Many of these already have a Bayes score of 90+. Agreed, this is why rule development for SA always has been, and always will be, an arms race. Spammers are aware of SpamAssas

Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:51 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: That PGP sig buried in HTML sticks out like a sore thumb. Even better, if you check my post from 6/14, most of these have a PGP signature block, but are without a "begin pgp signed message" block.. Try this meta rule pair for a starter. I can't guara

Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Jack Gostl
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 08:51 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > >That PGP sig buried in HTML sticks out like a sore thumb. > > > Even better, if you check my post from 6/14, most of these have a PGP > signature block, but are without a "begin pgp signed message" block.

Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Heinz Ulrich Stille
On Thursday 26 June 2003 14:51, Jack Gostl wrote: > Bayes attack is tougher, but 3-5 lines of all lower case letters with no > punctuation would be a good start. It would be, if it wouldn't just trigger the next cycle of evolution: E.g. a text generator using simple markov chains with single-word

Re: AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Jack Gostl
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Martin Bene wrote: > >This is becoming a regular thing. A fake PGP signature buried > >inside HTML > >followed by a string of random words clearly aimed at tripping up the > >Bayes algorithms. Its becoming a daily event. See below. > > Yep, I've been seein these for quite so

AW: [SAtalk] Another one

2003-06-26 Thread Martin Bene
Hi Jack, >This is becoming a regular thing. A fake PGP signature buried >inside HTML >followed by a string of random words clearly aimed at tripping up the >Bayes algorithms. Its becoming a daily event. See below. Yep, I've been seein these for quite some time now;What I'm seeing is: - spam in