Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 19:25, Ralph Seichter wrote: > Yorkshire Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I strongly suggest sticking with the MTA you know, for improved > > reliability and safety, at least until you're familiar with the > > other pieces in the puzzle. > > I admit you got a point here

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Tony Earnshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unix/Linux doesn't have "downtime;" that's a Gates euphamism. > In Unix/Linux it's called "uptime", and is measured in multiples > of 6 months. Hehehe... Now that's what I call a capital quote candidate! :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and maintain a mailhost integrated with spam assassin for a company of about 40 employees. We have experience with sendmail and linux. My IT guy gives the following estimate. He's comparing this with the administrative cost for in

RE: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

ichard Ahlquist -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Bannasch Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain I have a question for the group. How much work is it

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Stephen Bannasch wrote: I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and maintain a mailhost integrated with spam assassin for a company of about 40 employees. We have experience with sendmail and linux. My IT guy gives the following estimate. He's comparing this with the adm

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Yorkshire Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I strongly suggest sticking with the MTA you know, for improved > reliability and safety, at least until you're familiar with the > other pieces in the puzzle. I admit you got a point here. However, if the ominous "IT guy" mentioned by Stephen Bannasch

RE: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

that you can have it done in a day for four hundred bucks. :-) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Yorkshire Dave > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:17 PM > To: spamassassin list > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] how much work to

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

* Yorkshire Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This always makes me cringe (and rant :)). Possibly good advice, but > with the worst timing. IT guy is hopefully about to familiarise himself > with new antivirus software and new anti-spam software, does he really > need to be learning how to drive a new M

RE: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 18:18, Shayne Lebrun wrote: > Yes, he's probably padding his estimates. No, it's not evil or > unreasonable. It's far better to highball your time estimates, and not have > to use it all, then to lowball them, and come up against problems. That's some heavy padding going on

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 16:57, Ralph Seichter wrote: > BTW, I strongly suggest using Postfix > instead of Sendmail for improved reliability and safety. This always makes me cringe (and rant :)). Possibly good advice, but with the worst timing. IT guy is hopefully about to

RE: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

re Dave > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:13 PM > To: Stephen Bannasch > Cc: spamassassin list > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain > > > On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 15:21, Stephen Bannasch wrote: > > I have a question for the group. How much work is it to

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

- From: "Stephen Bannasch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:21 AM Subject: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain > I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and maintain a mailhost integrated wit

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 15:21, Stephen Bannasch wrote: > I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and maintain a > mailhost integrated with spam assassin for a company of about 40 employees. We have > experience with sendmail and linux. I maintain 4 separate installations o

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

I just noticed you mentioned you're familiar with Linux. If that's were true in my case, the numbers below would be *much* smaller: I'm on Solaris, and build everything from scratch. I wouldn't need to do that (nor would I recommend it) on a Linux system. On Linux (which I'm currently using

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Jonathan Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Worse - he works in the Star Trek Environment. > "It'll take 3 days, captain!" > *Scotty gets it done in half that* > "Scotty, you're a miracle worker!" > > It's all about setting expectations and then beating them, thus > ensuring your excellent employ

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Stephen Bannasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and > maintain a mailhost integrated with spam assassin for a company of > about 40 employees. We have experience with sendmail and linux. > > My IT guy gives the following estimate. He's

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Stephen Bannasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and > maintain a mailhost integrated with spam assassin for a company of > about 40 employees. We have experience with sendmail and linux. Disclaimer: I'm writing about my personal experi

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

For what it's worth, here's a run-down of my time to set up and maintain a mail server with Sendmail, SpamAssassin, and Trend's Interscan Antivirus for ~500 users, with the caveat that I've been doing this stuff for a while -- if I was a Sendmail or Unix novice, we'd be looking at a lot more ti

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Scott Rothgaber wrote: Stephen Bannasch wrote: -- Time estimates for an open source solution: -- 60+ hours to setup and test sendmail/anti-virus/RBL/anti-spam software from source. -- 8 hours every month to verify that things are working and up to date -- 8 hours every month to upgrade software (

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Stephen Bannasch wrote: -- Time estimates for an open source solution: -- 60+ hours to setup and test sendmail/anti-virus/RBL/anti-spam software from source. -- 8 hours every month to verify that things are working and up to date -- 8 hours every month to upgrade software (sendmail/RBL/virus/spam,

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

I have SA running for my company of 56 fulltime users and about 20 part-timers. Linux/sendmail/procmail It took about an hour to install and configure. I was paranoid at first and only ran it on my account and my catch-all box for testing, I did that for 2 days to be sure of the program. I the

Re: [SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

Hi, Could be if he's never experienced it before. We do something similar for company's based on qmail/vpopmail $400 (CAD) Qmail / Vpopmail Installation Clamd Anti-virus Qmail-Scanner SA QmailAdmin SquirrelMail MySQL (for user prefs for SA) dnscache Usually takes me about 4 hours to set it all

[SAtalk] how much work to install and maintain

I have a question for the group. How much work is it to install and maintain a mailhost integrated with spam assassin for a company of about 40 employees. We have experience with sendmail and linux. My IT guy gives the following estimate. He's comparing this with the administrative cost for i