Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-17 Thread Pedro Sam
On January 16, 2004 03:56 pm, Charles Gregory wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Pedro Sam wrote: > > Here's another analogy, I leave my legally owned and licensed firearm > > in plain view in the fore mentioned car. Robbers then proceed to > > steal my big ass gun and rob a bank ... well, you see whe

Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-16 Thread Charles Gregory
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Pedro Sam wrote: > Here's another analogy, I leave my legally owned and licensed firearm > in plain view in the fore mentioned car. Robbers then proceed to > steal my big ass gun and rob a bank ... well, you see where this is > headed. I can see where you are trying to FORCE

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-16 Thread Pedro Sam
On January 15, 2004 01:15 pm, Charles Gregory wrote: > And if someone STEALS your car, the person who stole it is responsible, > even if you are unaware of the theft. With insurane being compulsory, in > some places the laws have been changed so that the owner's insurance > covers all damages regar

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-15 Thread Charles Gregory
> Computers are like cars. If you crash your car into someone else's car > (or house, or business), you're gonna pay for the damage you caused. And if someone STEALS your car, the person who stole it is responsible, even if you are unaware of the theft. With insurane being compulsory, in some p

Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-14 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:03 PM -0500 Rubin Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If ISP's started blocking port 25 outbound except to their servers, I would then be forced to change my config every time I move my system. Where's that port 25 going to? Ideally for mobile users you use the

Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking

2004-01-14 Thread Tim B
This is why I beleive ISPs who have a restriction should publish their address blocks which are NOT supposed to be sending mail directly out. It then becomes the recipient mail domain's responsibility if they choose to block on the information published. In your small ISP case, you would not pu

Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-14 Thread Greg Cirino - Cirelle Enterprises
(requires id & pwd). Hell, I'm going to Mexico where it's warm, and drink a lot of beer. adios - Original Message - From: "Rubin Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] [OT a

Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-14 Thread Morris Jones
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Rubin Bennett wrote: > This is the Wrong Answer!!! > Speaking as someone who uses such a "Dynamically Assigned" IP, I can > tell you I'd be royally pissed if Adelphia started blocking outbound > port 25 traffic. Here's why: > I have a laptop running Linux that I use for most

Re: [SAtalk] [OT and long] Port Blocking (was: Spamwriter).

2004-01-14 Thread Rubin Bennett
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 19:37, Tim B wrote: > > > > It's well known that filtering is *only* useful for keeping one's inbox > > uncluttered; it does nothing to interdict the flow of crap from > > upstream. You want to put a serious dent in spam? IDP broadband > > providers that give their customers