[SAtalk] can't make install if personal

2003-06-21 Thread Dan Jacobson
Non-root mentioned twice: These should be consolidated $ egrep -in 'personal|non-root' /var/tmp/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55/INSTALL 45:To install as non-root, do something like this: 105:Installing SpamAssassin for Personal Use (Not System-Wide) also, telling the Personal Use user to do "make install"

Re: [SAtalk] Razor checks...

2003-06-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:21 PM 6/21/03 -0700, Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote: I'm just wondering if anyone knows how the razor checks work. The reason I ask is that I have spamassassin running twice on all messages - once in a milter and once from the glocal procmail file. I have started to notice messages that h

[SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] Re: Bugzilla moving to new server on Saturday!

2003-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 06:39:57PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > of course ( ;) ). If you see anything "out of the ordinary", please > send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll try > to get it sorted out nice and quick... It seems like the DNS changes which I made sure had gone through have no

[SAtalk] autolearn/autowhitelist misguided

2003-06-21 Thread Gordon Cormack
Auto-learn and auto-whitelist use different scoring criteria from those used in spamassassin's spam filtering. IMO, this is a serious mistake. In the long run, it means that the bayesian and whitelist algorithms will simply reinforce whatever errors are made by the feature-based classifier. I ha

[SAtalk] pyzor package for Red Hat

2003-06-21 Thread Warren Togami
https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=360 pyzor package for Red Hat, cleaned up a bit. I would appreciate any suggestions for improving this package further. Has anyone made a package of dccproc for Red Hat that builds cleanly as a non-root user? Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

[SAtalk] Re: Bugzilla moving to new server on Saturday!

2003-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:35:31PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Just wanted to let everyone know that we're going to be moving the > SpamAssassin/SAproxy Bugzilla server to a new server on Saturday, > June 21st 2003. We've planned and practiced the move, so it should be > painless Ok ... The

[SAtalk] Razor checks...

2003-06-21 Thread Cassandra Lynette Brockett
I'm just wondering if anyone knows how the razor checks work. The reason I ask is that I have spamassassin running twice on all messages - once in a milter and once from the glocal procmail file. I have started to notice messages that hit on the razor2 check when run from procmail, but not when r

RE: [SAtalk] Public folders, IMAP

2003-06-21 Thread Mark Motley
Yes. I've written a simple Perl script to pull all the ham/spam off of an Exchange 2000 server via IMAP and run sa-learn on them. Basically, users drag/drop spam and ham to a shared Public Folder and this script connects via IMAP and pulls those down to sequential files in a directory. Finally

Re: [SAtalk] Spam profiting from auto_whitelist -- how to avoid?

2003-06-21 Thread Justin Mason
Kai Schaetzl said: > Christopher M. Iarocci wrote on Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:55:26 -0400: > > > Auto White list shows up as AWL in the report. I had this > > happen to me because I stupidly put my own domain in the whitelist by > > specifying [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, every spammer that spoofed

Re: [SAtalk] OT- "greylisting" - opinions from the SA community?

2003-06-21 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 08:58, Alan Leghart wrote: > This method proposes to delay EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE until a database match > is found for sending IP, FROM, and TO. > > So...we punish everyone in the world, and hope that a delay of one or more > hours is considered "acceptable"? > I agree, a

Re: [SAtalk] Razor help

2003-06-21 Thread Jim Ford
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:44:17PM +0100, Mark wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:57:19AM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: > > > nextserver: discover0: No Razor Discovery servers available at this time > Hi! > I followed the INSTALL file religiously and have previously had no > problems with other installs

Re: [SAtalk] Blocking a Domain

2003-06-21 Thread Christopher M. Iarocci
> Hi, > I am using the sam module in Horde/IMP CVS version for spamassasin > to work with the webinterface. > > It works great > > I just wanted to ask , can I blacklist an entire domain for a particular > user in his spam settings (Web iterface) > blacklist_f

[SAtalk] Blocking a Domain

2003-06-21 Thread Krishna
Hi, I am using the sam module in Horde/IMP CVS version for spamassasin to work with the webinterface. It works great I just wanted to ask , can I blacklist an entire domain for a particular user in his spam settings (Web iterface) regards Krishna http://www.K

Re: [SAtalk] OT- "greylisting" - opinions from the SA community?

2003-06-21 Thread Michael Sims
Quoting Alan Leghart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This method proposes to delay EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE until a database match > is found for sending IP, FROM, and TO. > > So...we punish everyone in the world, and hope that a delay of one or more > hours is considered "acceptable"? I have to agree. I

Re: [SAtalk] Razor help

2003-06-21 Thread Mark
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:57:19AM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: > > nextserver: discover0: No Razor Discovery servers available at this time > > Did you register Razor with razor-admin? > > Razor installed fine on my Slack 9 system and SA 2.55. Hi! I followed the INSTALL file religiously and have prev

Re: [SAtalk] remove or tag

2003-06-21 Thread Martin Sarajervi
I call spamassassin trough qmail-scanner. void:/var/spool/qmailscan# cat /etc/tcp.smtp 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" # Use Qmail-Scanner with SpamAssassin on any mail from the rest of the world :allow,QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl" - Original Message - From: "Martin Bene

[SAtalk] Net::DNS tests skipped.

2003-06-21 Thread Jim Ford
Hi, A bit OT here - I've posted to the net-dns list, but I feel I'm more likely to get a response here! I'm trying to use Net::DNS with spamassassin without success so far. I've grabbed Net-DNS-0.38 and installed it, but when I run the test suite I get the following: t/00-podskippe

[SAtalk] Bayes Learning Error

2003-06-21 Thread Christopher M. Iarocci
I'm running a Mandrake 9.0 machine, with qmail (as installed by LWQ.org) and SA 2.55 site wide, using Bayes with auto learning enabled. The server is just a gateway server, which then routes it's filtered email (Thank you VERY much SpamAssassin!) to a POP server sitting behind it. The server behi

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes + Autolearn Question

2003-06-21 Thread Christopher M. Iarocci
> I need help figuring something out. > > I'm managing email on a server in an inhouse, company > environment. Many users on system, but all are using the > system for company business, so basically we will have very > similar spam vs. ham issues. > > I was frustrated because the autolearn Bayes

Re: [SAtalk] Spam profiting from auto_whitelist -- how to avoid?

2003-06-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Christopher M. Iarocci wrote on Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:55:26 -0400: > Auto White list shows up as AWL in the report. I had this > happen to me because I stupidly put my own domain in the whitelist by > specifying [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, every spammer that spoofed an address > at my domain got

AW: [SAtalk] remove or tag

2003-06-21 Thread Martin Bene
Hi Martin, > I tried to change the subject in the mails , but this wont work. I used the > options: How is spamassassin called? if you're using mimedefang to call spamassassin, SA can't make any changes to the messages - you'll have to change the subject from mimedefang after getting the DA resul

[SAtalk] remove or tag

2003-06-21 Thread Martin Sarajervi
Is it possible to remove the spam messages instead of tagging in the header them? I filter mail for some people who use Outlook express (which can't filter messages by header) and they cant make rules for pushing the tagged spam into a specific folder. Also, is it possible to have different option

RE: [SAtalk] OT- "greylisting" - opinions from the SA community?

2003-06-21 Thread Bill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmmm. Took me 5 seconds to see this problem. Did anyone ever apply > this "theory" to the real worlds? > > Or do I live in a completely different world? > You see a problem where there should be none. The vendor should already be in the database. The new customer wil

Re: [SAtalk] Razor help

2003-06-21 Thread Jim Ford
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:03:23PM +0100, Mark Berry wrote: > Hi! > I'm just installing Spamassassin and Razor on a Linux box. I'm trying to > install Razor first but I keep getting the error: > > nextserver: discover0: No Razor Discovery servers available at this time Did you register Razor with

Re: [SAtalk] OT- "greylisting" - opinions from the SA community?

2003-06-21 Thread Alan Leghart
--On Saturday, June 21, 2003 2:42 AM -0400 Ryan Bingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I apologize to anyone if this has been brought up before, but I'd be curious to get some opinions on the concept of "greylisting" as a spamfighting tool. To summarize, it involves initially rejecting an SMTP sessi

[SAtalk] OT- "greylisting" - opinions from the SA community?

2003-06-21 Thread Ryan Bingham
I apologize to anyone if this has been brought up before, but I'd be curious to get some opinions on the concept of "greylisting" as a spamfighting tool.  To summarize, it involves initially rejecting an SMTP session from an unknown source in the expection that a valid SMTP host will try aga