[SAtalk] More filter ideas

2002-03-13 Thread Rob McMillin
Is it too much to assume that eight-bit characters in the e-mail part of an address is a sign of junk? I get a lot of Asian spam in this form, but I understand Unicode domains are on their way, so it will now be possible for me to receive mail from a domain I can't possibly type in to my compu

AW: [SAtalk] Why to deliver SPAM even if it's identified. (was Re: Spamd andMilter - Expected Results?)

2002-03-13 Thread Martin Bene
Hi daniel, > > I don't see much point in tagging spam and then delivering > > it anyway. The spammers still got their message through. > > So what if it's in a special little folder all its own? > > The problem with this approach is that SpamAssassin is a heuristic > system. I have had a number

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist troubles

2002-03-13 Thread Kenneth Chen
Okay, this may seem like a really stupid suggestion, but I made the same mistake a few times when I first set up SpamAssassin. Did you kill and restart `spamd' when you made modifications to your local.cf? Kenneth --- Kenneth Chen Unit Supervisor, Clark Kerr and

Re: [SAtalk] Patch for spamd

2002-03-13 Thread Lars Hansson
> Would being enabled by default with -d be a bad thing? Doesnt matter really as long as I can turn it off somehow. -- Lars Hansson Universal Joint Network Technologies, Inc 16/F Equitable Bank Tower, 8751 Paseo de Roxas, Makati City, Philippines PGP Key http://www.unet.net.ph/~lars/pubkey.asc

Re: [SAtalk] Patch for spamd

2002-03-13 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:05:26AM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:20:12 -0500 > "Duncan Findlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sweet! > > Craig, include this please :-) > > And if it does get included, make it possible to not > use it. I'm running spamd with daemontools a

[SAtalk] More falsies with SA in an M$ Exchange network

2002-03-13 Thread Jason Haar
I reported a few weeks ago how SA was marking ALL our Exchange-to-Exchange mail as spam. We run an Exchange network internally, but route the "Exchange Site Connector" via our Qmail servers so that they can be virus/spam checked. These mail messages are used by Exchange to route "non-mail" Exchan

Re: [SAtalk] Patch for spamd

2002-03-13 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:20:12 -0500 "Duncan Findlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweet! > Craig, include this please :-) And if it does get included, make it possible to not use it. I'm running spamd with daemontools and having pid files just causes unnecessary grief for me ;) -- Lars Hansson

RE: [SAtalk] Why to deliver SPAM even if it's identified. (was Re: Spamd and Milter - Expected Results?)

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Moncur
> > I don't see much point in tagging spam and then delivering > > it anyway. The spammers still got their message through. > > So what if it's in a special little folder all its own? > > The problem with this approach is that SpamAssassin is a heuristic > system. I have had a number of false posi

[SAtalk] Why to deliver SPAM even if it's identified. (was Re: Spamd andMilter - Expected Results?)

2002-03-13 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Michael Grau wrote: [...] > I don't see much point in tagging spam and then delivering > it anyway. The spammers still got their message through. > So what if it's in a special little folder all its own? The problem with this approach is that SpamAssassin is a heuristic sys

[SAtalk] Re: OT: new virus, easy to quick-fix with SA

2002-03-13 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: >> > I've added a test like this to catch it; >> You do realize that this is probably the *most* inefficient way, >> short of hand sorting, that you have of blocking the message? > > In terms of efficiency it's not all that bad; I could use badmailfrom

Re: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Cline
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 02:56 pm, Matthew Cline wrote: > On Wednesday 13 March 2002 02:57 am, Matthew Cline wrote: > > body PORN_12 > > /(?:(?:\bxxx|\bsex|\bslut|\bwhore|\bhottest\b|hard-?core|\bhorny\b|\bhorn > >ie st\b|\bvirgin|\bnaughty\b|\bnaughtiest\b|\bwebcam||\ble[sz]b(?:ian|o) > > d

[SAtalk] Spamd on Virtual Server

2002-03-13 Thread Ray Curtis
I finally have gotten spamd to run a virtual machine, but now it seems to be having a problem getting it to find the rules files. spamd -D debug: ignore: test message to precompile patterns and load modules debug: using "../rules" for default rules dir debug: using "/etc/spamassassin" for site

[SAtalk] Re: Continuing to help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Shane Williams
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Marsha Hanchrow wrote: > Where does "spamc" or "spamd" come into it? What do they do, and where do > (or would) they live? I'm also one of those who have some Perl troubles, > and the following may explain why. Anyone running FreeBSD is using an > older version of Perl.

Re: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Cline
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 02:57 am, Matthew Cline wrote: > body PORN_12 > /(?:(?:\bxxx|\bsex|\bslut|\bwhore|\bhottest\b|hard-?core|\bhorny\b|\bhornie >st\b|\bvirgin|\bnaughty\b|\bnaughtiest\b|\bwebcam||\ble[sz]b(?:ian|o) > describe PORN_12Uses words and phrases

[SAtalk] Continuing to help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Marsha Hanchrow
>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:36:51 -0500 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Continuing to help the ignorant >From: Greg Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Some of it was identifiable text, and just too tempting. OK, it's > > deleted. But what does one do when SA comes to a wrong conclusion

Re: [SAtalk] Re: More complex customizations (MIME, etc)

2002-03-13 Thread Jim Paris
> Have you gotten any response to your email (attached below for > reference) ? I'm interested in BOTH options. No, and I've been too busy to get around to implementing anything yet. I'm a bit surprised nobody answered that (given the traffic on this list).. what do people think of the idea? -

[SAtalk] Re: More complex customizations (MIME, etc)

2002-03-13 Thread Smith, Rick
Jim - Have you gotten any response to your email (attached below for reference) ? I'm interested in BOTH options. Rick -- Attached message below --- Message: 8057506 FROM: Jim Paris DATE: 03/09/2002 20:36:05 SUBJECT: [SAtalk] More complex customizations (

Re: [SAtalk] Patch for spamd

2002-03-13 Thread Duncan Findlay
Sweet! Craig, include this please :-) (It will greatly help the Debian rc script) -- Duncan Findlay ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

Re: [SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Clark
Never mind. I'm a fool. It is working fine, and reading from the correct ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs file. I'll be over on the corner. That's the odd thing about computers. They only do exactly what they're told to do. Mike >I thought the < looked odd. But it doesn't work either way. But is >t

Re: [SAtalk] Error during SpamAssassin build - ld: fatal: library -ldb: not found

2002-03-13 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 10:20:08PM -0500, Greg Ward wrote: > On 12 March 2002, Clayton A. Burnham said: > > I get the following error while "making" SpamAssassin: > > > > gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE >-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O spamd/spamc.c \ > >

RE: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Moncur
Maybe it would be better to have a separate eval check for porn phrases, kind of like the spam phrases checking. Then a simple word like "sex" or "naked" wouldn't be worth much, but a message with a high percentage of words on the list would be regarded as spam. The words could be individually sc

[SAtalk] SA-milter on AIX?

2002-03-13 Thread Kenneth Garreau Jr.
Has anyone here been able to compile SA-milter on AIX? I'm riddled with a billion compile errors, including the following: c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -O2 -Wall -c spamass-milter.cpp In file included from spamass-milter.cpp:98: spamass-milter.h:9: parse error before `&' token spamass-mil

[SAtalk] Patch for spamd

2002-03-13 Thread Federico Voges
Hi, I've made a small hack to spamd so it saves its PID to /var/run/spamd.pid. It will delete this file when it's killed. A total of 4 lines of code :) I did this so I can use the standard way to kill it from my rc scripts. Something I left out is the check for other instances running as my rc

Re: [SAtalk] sendmail rules vs. SA

2002-03-13 Thread Sean Harding
On Wed Mar 13 at 11:14:58 AM, Todd Martin wrote: > This got me thinking about the role of mta rule checks and > spamassassin filtering. What have other people chose to do? I'm keeping strong mta rules regardless of what post-mta (SA or otherwise) spam filtering I'm doing. This includes blacklis

Re: [SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Clark
I thought the < looked odd. But it doesn't work either way. But is the -c even needed? I thought the users_pref under .spamassassin was read automatically. >On 13 March 2002, Rob McMillin said: >> -p only reads user scores. Did you try >> >> :0fw: >> | spamassassin -P -c

[SAtalk] sendmail rules vs. SA

2002-03-13 Thread Todd Martin
I just noticed in my log files this morning that sendmail is blocking some legitimate mail to me from an address it couldn't resolve a domain for. I suppose the remote mta was missconfigured or there was a temporary DNS hiccup. I understand this rule check is one of Sendmail's ways to reduce s

[SAtalk] maildrop tips for a newbie

2002-03-13 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
This is not SA specific but I am using maildrop as a filter to make delivery decisions for my email, ie. Spam or not Spam. I am trying to come up with recipe for extracting the email address from the "From:" header. Of course the From: header can take many different forms: From: [EMAIL PROTECT

AW: [SAtalk] Spamd and Milter - Expected Results?

2002-03-13 Thread Martin Bene
> I use a second milter that looks at headers - if it finds > "*SPAM* it bounces the message and archives a copy > of the message. I also use it to bounce messages with > attached ".exe" or other undesirable attachments. > > I don't see much point in tagging spam and then delivering > i

RE: [SAtalk] Spamd and Milter - Expected Results?

2002-03-13 Thread Robert Covell
So your spamd does the same thing mine does? That is, even when spam IS found it continues to send it to the user. I agree with you, tagging spam and delivering it accomplishes nothing. Could you point me in the direction of the milter you are using to inspect the headers for **SPAM**?

[SAtalk] Whitelist troubles

2002-03-13 Thread Rob Pryor
Either I'm totally incompetent..Or..Yes...I'm incompetent.. =] Anyway... I'm having a little trouble with the whitelist. I'm using the 'spamd' and it is sorting mail correctly. But when I add hosts to the whitelist_from (For mail coming into our server) to the /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, i

Re: [SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Greg Ward
On 13 March 2002, Rob McMillin said: > -p only reads user scores. Did you try > > :0fw: > | spamassassin -P -c https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

RE: [SAtalk] Messages with empty bodies?

2002-03-13 Thread Tony Hoyle
I used to get some spam that was purely a block of javascript. Since I don't have javascript enabled in my mailer (I have *some* sense!) it came out completely blank, and I forwarded it to spamcop for their perusal. I don't get this any more ... I suspect spammers have given up on the technique.

Re: [SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Rob McMillin
Michael Clark wrote: > My user_prefs aren't being read. It seems that the user_prefs should > be read automagically when processing mail. I added -c > /home/mclark/.spamassassin/user_prefs and then -p > /home/mclark/.spamassassin/user_prefs to the .procmailrc and they > user_prefs aren't proc

Re: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Geoff Gibbs
Matt Sergeant replied: > >I believe that the current version of PORN_4 (2.11) is triggered by :- > > > >http://www.essex.ac.uk/ > Good. That means SpamAssassin is working ;-) I am not sure that the burgers of that fine county would see it quite like that ;-) I would have thought that while it i

Re: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Matt Sergeant
Geoff Gibbs wrote: >>uri PORN_4 >> >/^https?:\/\/[\w\.]*(?:xxx|sex|anal|slut|pussy|cum|nympho|suck|porn|hardcore|tab >oo|whore|voyeur|lesbian|gurlpages|naughty|lolita|teen|schoolgirl|kooloffer|eroti >c|lust|panty|panties)\w*\./ > >I believe that the current version of PORN_4 (2.11) is triggered

Re: [SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Clark
My user_prefs aren't being read. It seems that the user_prefs should be read automagically when processing mail. I added -c /home/mclark/.spamassassin/user_prefs and then -p /home/mclark/.spamassassin/user_prefs to the .procmailrc and they user_prefs aren't processed. Complete /home/mclark/.p

Re: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Geoff Gibbs
> uri PORN_4 /^https?:\/\/[\w\.]*(?:xxx|sex|anal|slut|pussy|cum|nympho|suck|porn|hardcore|tab oo|whore|voyeur|lesbian|gurlpages|naughty|lolita|teen|schoolgirl|kooloffer|eroti c|lust|panty|panties)\w*\./ I believe that the current version of PORN_4 (2.11) is triggered by :- http://www.essex.ac.

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and Milter - Expected Results?

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Grau
I use a second milter that looks at headers - if it finds "*SPAM* it bounces the message and archives a copy of the message. I also use it to bounce messages with attached ".exe" or other undesirable attachments. I don't see much point in tagging spam and then delivering it anyway. The

Re: [SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Ian Briggs
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Greg Ward wrote: > If you're talking about customizing the scores, under SA 2.0 and later > you need to edit ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs. I don't have any ~/.spamassassin directory, just a ~/.spamassassin.cf file. I've got /usr/local/share/spamassassin/user_prefs.template. S

[SAtalk] Spamd and Milter - Expected Results?

2002-03-13 Thread Robert Covell
We have successfully installed spamd via the sendmail milter. But it is sending the spam to the account targeted for the email. This is not the expected result. We expected it to place the spam in a file, not forward it on and tell them it is spam. The user still gets the email, notifying them

Re: [SAtalk] Outlook Express

2002-03-13 Thread Kerry Nice
Ok, a bit of a hack and there is probably a better way to do this, but it works for me. Anything that gets past all the filters and ends up in my inbox I move to the 1spam folder and an hourly cron job routes it to spamcop and other places. Kerry. #hourly.spam.report.sh #!/bin/sh grep "From "

Re: [SAtalk] using SA in /etc/aliases

2002-03-13 Thread Mark Goodge
At 14:40 13/03/2002, Greg Ward wrote: >On 13 March 2002, Mark Goodge said: > > Is there any easy way of simply piping mail through SA via an entry in > > /etc/aliases so that it can be a link in a mail forwarding chain? For > > example, where I currently have an entry like: > > > > user: [EMAIL P

Re: [SAtalk] using SA in /etc/aliases

2002-03-13 Thread Greg Ward
On 13 March 2002, Mark Goodge said: > Is there any easy way of simply piping mail through SA via an entry in > /etc/aliases so that it can be a link in a mail forwarding chain? For > example, where I currently have an entry like: > > user: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I want to be able to replace it

[SAtalk] new 'From' filtering

2002-03-13 Thread Cyril Chaboisseau
hi, I just received quite some spams that came from @P0PMAILER.ORG (the second letter being a '0' (zero) and not a 'O') we could add another From filter that blocks those # well known spammer header FROM_P0PMAILER From =~ /\@p0pmailer.org/i describe FROM_P0PMAILER From an

[SAtalk] using SA in /etc/aliases

2002-03-13 Thread Mark Goodge
Hi, Apologies if this is a FAQ, but I've looked through the documentation and can't find any reference to it. Is there any easy way of simply piping mail through SA via an entry in /etc/aliases so that it can be a link in a mail forwarding chain? For example, where I currently have an entry l

Re: [SAtalk] Re: OT: new virus, easy to quick-fix with SA

2002-03-13 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> > I've added a test like this to catch it; > You do realize that this is probably the *most* inefficient way, short > of hand sorting, that you have of blocking the message? In terms of efficiency it's not all that bad; I could use badmailfrom or any of the other qmail coarse filters but via S

[SAtalk] Porn spam which didn't trigger any porn rules

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Cline
This spam didn't trigger any of the porn rules, not even the PORN_4 URI rule. Maybe "nude" should be added to PORN_4. --- Subject: Jennifer Love Huitt Caught Naked WANT TO SEE SOME CELEBRITY SKIN? Have you ever wondered what Christina Aguillera looks like under her lingerie? Ever wish you

[SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Cline
Ooops, hehe; sorry about that... Interesting subject for a technical mailing list, huh? :-) I started fiddling around with the PORN_3 rule because it wasn't catching any of the porn spam that I got. body PORN_3 /(?:(?:\bcum|\borg[iy]|\bwild|fuck|\bteen|\baction\b|spunk|\bp

[SAtalk] PORN ideas

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Cline
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Re: [SAtalk] Continuing to help the ignorant

2002-03-13 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Craig R Hughes wrote: > 2. Single message from infrequent correspondant scores very high or very > low. Let's say I send you a message which for some reason gets a -100 > bonus (badly constructed whitelist_from or something). Ok, now I'm in > the AWL2 db as (-100,1). Ooh,

Re: [SAtalk] Mass-check

2002-03-13 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > Perl 5.6.0 by any chance? Upgrade. > > This is perl, v5.6.1 built for i386-freebsd Then it's probably the lines above that convert numeric entities into their actual characters. Can you check the email in question for numeric entities? -- Matt. <:

Re: [SAtalk] Some more rule ideas

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Cline
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 09:03 am, Kerry Nice wrote: > Would it be possible to come up with a rule for those > random things that are the final lines of a lot of > spams? These are the kind of things that break razor, > since the hash is different. > > I cut some samples out of some recent spams:

Re: [SAtalk] Mass-check

2002-03-13 Thread Olivier Nicole
> Perl 5.6.0 by any chance? Upgrade. This is perl, v5.6.1 built for i386-freebsd Nope Matt. Olivier ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

Re: [SAtalk] Mass-check

2002-03-13 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Olivier Nicole wrote: > > > I also noticed the following error message while mass-check was running: > > > > Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected non-continuation byte 0xc3 after > > start byte 0xe4) in substitution iterator at > > ../lib/Mail/SpamAss

RE: [SAtalk] spamd and Solaris syslog

2002-03-13 Thread Geoff Gibbs
Ed Henderson asks: > There is a Unix::Syslog module that supposedly is more secure according to > the docs. But I don't have a clue as to how to use it instead of > Sys::Syslog. Any suggestions? Yes, I asked my Perl module/Solaris expert about Sys:: and Unix:: He told me that he thought that S