Re: [SAtalk] Re: New Check Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Donald Greer
Daniel Pittman wrote: [...] > It's not reliable enough in the face of: > > * NAT > * Any MTA that fails to insert a received line. > * fetchmail > > The last will screw up, too, because it has a hop to the ISP SMTP > listener, then a pickup from the ISP POP3 host and delivery to the local > ma

[SAtalk] Re: New Check Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 08 Feb 2002, Donald Greer wrote: > One potential new check would be for "Received:" sequences. Nope. > E.G. that there's no message with a "Received: from XXX by YYY" > followed by "Received: from WWW by ZZZ". If ZZZ received the message, > then ZZZ should have sent it on the next hop (

[SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Charlie Watts wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Shane Williams wrote: > >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, dman wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:13:29PM -0600, Donald Greer wrote: >> > [...] >> > | Basically, the first time email is recieved from somebody, they >> > | are sent a mes

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Donald Greer
Charlie Watts wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Donald Greer wrote: > >>Charlie Watts wrote: >> >>>That sounds like blocking that would be better done outside of >>>SpamAssassin. >>> >> Maybe I wasn't clear. What I was trying to describe was a system >>where by the "Auto Whitelist" would _suggest_

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Charlie Watts
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Donald Greer wrote: > Charlie Watts wrote: > > That sounds like blocking that would be better done outside of > > SpamAssassin. > >Maybe I wasn't clear. What I was trying to describe was a system > where by the "Auto Whitelist" would _suggest_ address to be added to a > us

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Donald Greer
Charlie Watts wrote: > That sounds like blocking that would be better done outside of > SpamAssassin. Maybe I wasn't clear. What I was trying to describe was a system where by the "Auto Whitelist" would _suggest_ address to be added to a user's whitelist, but _NOT_ automagically add them a

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Charlie Watts
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Donald Greer wrote: >Ok, since this has been a _very_ unpopular suggestion :^), how about > this. We collect potential auto whitelist addresses and then send an > email (setup a web page?) where the _USER_ can select who get's > whitelisted, and who get's ignored (and may

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Howto test ?

2002-02-08 Thread Cedric Fontaine
Bonjour ! Le vendredi 8 février 2002 à 21:01:17, vous écriviez : >> DE> # QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl" >> DE> # export QMAILQUEUE >> DE> # echo -e "To: postmaster@localhost\nSubject: This is a QMAILQUEUE DE> test\n\n" >> DE> | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject >> >> DE> After you

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Donald Greer
Charlie Watts wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Shane Williams wrote: > > >>On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, dman wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:13:29PM -0600, Donald Greer wrote: >>>[...] >>>| Basically, the first time email is recieved from somebody, they are >>>| sent a message asking them to co

[SAtalk] whitelist all local email

2002-02-08 Thread Justin England
Since my forte is not REs, I need some help creating a rule. Basically, what I would like to do is "whitelist" ALL local mail. My idea behind this is that mail generated by us to our users should NEVER get spam tagged. Now I can't really whitelist my domain, as many spammers will use local e-m

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Charlie Watts
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Shane Williams wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, dman wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:13:29PM -0600, Donald Greer wrote: > > [...] > > | Basically, the first time email is recieved from somebody, they are > > | sent a message asking them to confirm their identity before m

RE: [SAtalk] postfix w/out procmail

2002-02-08 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Josh Marcus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 08 February 2002 19:27 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] postfix w/out procmail > > > hey, > > I want to run spamassassin on a relatively busy postfix server, where > procmail really isn't an option.

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Howto test ?

2002-02-08 Thread Dallas Engelken
> DE> # QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl" > DE> # export QMAILQUEUE > DE> # echo -e "To: postmaster@localhost\nSubject: This is a QMAILQUEUE test\n\n" > DE> | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject > > DE> After you run that, check your postmaster account and there should be a > DE> message

[SAtalk] Re: Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Shane Williams
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, dman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:13:29PM -0600, Donald Greer wrote: > [...] > | Basically, the first time email is recieved from somebody, they are > | sent a message asking them to confirm their identity before mail is > | delivered. > [...] > | What do you think?

[SAtalk] spamassassin w/postfix but w/out procmail

2002-02-08 Thread Josh Marcus
Can anyone tell me how to setup spamassassin to work as a filter using postfix -- that is, not using procmail? --j ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Howto test ?

2002-02-08 Thread Cedric Fontaine
Bonjour ! Le jeudi 7 février 2002 à 22:00:32, vous écriviez : DE> # QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl" DE> # export QMAILQUEUE DE> # echo -e "To: postmaster@localhost\nSubject: This is a QMAILQUEUE test\n\n" DE> | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject DE> After you run that, check your po

[SAtalk] postfix w/out procmail

2002-02-08 Thread Josh Marcus
hey, I want to run spamassassin on a relatively busy postfix server, where procmail really isn't an option. Can postfix be setup to directly process the messages (not per user), using a transport or some such? --j ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list

Re: [SAtalk] Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread dman
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:13:29PM -0600, Donald Greer wrote: [...] | Basically, the first time email is recieved from somebody, they are | sent a message asking them to confirm their identity before mail is | delivered. [...] | What do you think? I don't like that idea. email is supposed

[SAtalk] New Check Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Donald Greer
One potential new check would be for "Received:" sequences. E.G. that there's no message with a "Received: from XXX by YYY" followed by "Received: from WWW by ZZZ". If ZZZ received the message, then ZZZ should have sent it on the next hop ( or atleast something with the same IP address a

[SAtalk] Auto Whitelisting Suggestion

2002-02-08 Thread Donald Greer
Folks, Take a look at "http://www.paganini.net/ask/";. This is a discription of how "Active Spam Killer" works. Could be useful as an option for auto whitelisting. Basically, the first time email is recieved from somebody, they are sent a message asking them to confirm their identity

[SAtalk] Can't seem to get Spamassassin to work properly

2002-02-08 Thread Woodworth, Eric
Here's my setup: I have a vanilla install of Red Hat linux running a fairly plain Intel server. I have Q-mail, Q-mail Scanner, and Sophos AV running. All 3 of these worked fine before trying to install Spamassassin. When I install SA downloaded 2.01 and used the perl makefile to do the install.

[SAtalk] spam trapping

2002-02-08 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
The documentation on spam trapping isn't really all that clear, so I would just like to verify that I am doing this right. the email address I wish to trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] so, using qmail with vpopmail, I would go to the domains/domain.dom directory and create a .qmail-nothingbutspam file

Re: [SAtalk] Bug#132733: X-RBL-Warning

2002-02-08 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Fri, 2002-02-08 at 01:20, Charlie Watts wrote: > Depends. Does Exim actually process all the Received lines, or does it > just test the connecting host? > > Trouble is that SA has some flexibility I think Exim doesn't have - the > ability to tag message differently based on the contents of the