Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-07 Thread Amadeusz Sławiński
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 19:32:10 +0200 Juergen Weigert wrote: > Ahoj Amadeusz! Hello > Welcome aboard. Do you have an account at savannah? If so, I am happy > to grant you admin privileges on screen. Just made one, also send request for inclusion so I'm easier to locate. > Others: I trust you fig

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-07 Thread Juergen Weigert
Ahoj Amadeusz! Welcome aboard. Do you have an account at savannah? If so, I am happy to grant you admin privileges on screen. Others: I trust you figure it out how to prevent Amadeusz from removing all the features that you love. He appears to be willing to discuss things. I believe someone who

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-06 Thread Jostein Berntsen
On 03.04.14,01:57, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi, > > > > Because looking at git, project which has 4 commits in one year > > (2013) and no release in 5~6 years, looks basically dead > > I still disagree on "dead" -- compared to "not very active". But > that's just nitpicking and a different threshol

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-04 Thread Amadeusz Sławiński
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 22:12:09 -0400 Mike Gerwitz wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:11:27AM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > > I can spend time separating patches into something that can be > > acceptable for official tree without breaking existing > > functionality. > > You have a lot of commi

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-03 Thread Moritz Orbach
Hi, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > > > One of my goals was to make code far more readable, so I reformatted > > > whole tree, [...] > It was just a matter of running it at some point through reformatting > utility But shouldn't an official GNU project adhere to the GNU Coding Standards? https://ww

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gerwitz
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:11:27AM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > I can spend time separating patches into something that can be > acceptable for official tree without breaking existing functionality. You have a lot of commit history that I'd hate to see separated into patches---I'd rather see

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gerwitz
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:57:48AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > It was just a matter of running it at some point through reformatting > > utility, the only minus is (mentioned in previous talks about release) > > that one loses commit history. > > Hrm. How lossy will that be? > > Do you mean "c

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gerwitz
[Sent this message originally from the wrong e-mail address---moderators, you can delete the one from the other address.] On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:57:48AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > It was just a matter of running it at some point through reformatting > > utility, the only minus is (mention

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:11:27AM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > Ok, from those comments and other mails clearly there are some people > who use most of this stuff (maybe except for zmodem ;). I just have a rough idea of how zmodem transfer works (and no idea how screen handles them), bu

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Amadeusz Sławiński
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:27:27 +0200 Axel Beckert wrote: > > > > * removal of features which didn't seem useful or could be > > > > replaced > [...] > > > Please list which features you removed, so that people at least > > > have a chance to object. > [...] > > From fast comparing between source fil

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Mahood
On Apr 2, 2014 1:46 PM, "Amadeusz Sławiński" wrote: > zmodem - according to wiki some ancient file transfer protocol You had me until you exposed your [lack of] age. :-) Just kidding, of course. I welcome your enthusiasm and suggest we call to arms anyone else interested in filling this role t

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:14:13PM +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote: > On 02.04.14,19:31, Axel Beckert wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:57:39PM +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote: > > > But it might seem like the development at the savannah repository is > > > a bit abandonded or have stalled, an

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Amadeusz, thanks for the calm reply despite my maybe still a little bit heated mail. :-) On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:47:21PM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > > > * removal of ancient code (removed most of #ifdef for ancient > > > systems) > > > > Not happy. > > > > I fear that this may cause

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Jostein Berntsen
On 02.04.14,19:31, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi Jo, > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:57:39PM +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote: > [Axel prefers Savannah over GitHub] > > Many valid points there, Axel, and they are important to consider. > > Thanks. > > > But it might seem like the development at the savan

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Neal Fultz
I wrote a patch last summer for configuring the caption bar, and sat on it because I'd assummed the project was dead. 4.0.3 is from 2008, and the only traffic I saw on this list was one person asking how to change their background. amade took my patch and merged it in the same day I sent it to h

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Amadeusz Sławiński
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 18:43:16 +0200 Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:27:53PM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > > Some of you may know that I maintain separate development tree on > > github (https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/devel/src) in which I > > have a more than 30

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Jo, On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:57:39PM +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote: [Axel prefers Savannah over GitHub] > Many valid points there, Axel, and they are important to consider. Thanks. > But it might seem like the development at the savannah repository is > a bit abandonded or have stalled, and

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Neal Fultz
This sounds great; I was very impressed with how quick you merged my patch in last week. I've been using your branch since then and been quite happy with it. I'd actually made that patch last summer and sat on it just because the project seemed totally dead; the releases have been glacial, even by

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Jostein Berntsen
On 02.04.14,18:43, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:27:53PM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > > Some of you may know that I maintain separate development tree on github > > (https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/devel/src) in which I have a more > > than 300 changes committ

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:27:53PM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > Some of you may know that I maintain separate development tree on github > (https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/devel/src) in which I have a more > than 300 changes committed in comparison with official tree. So I may > as

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Jostein Berntsen
On 02.04.14,16:27, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > Hello, > > seeing as we came yet again to standstill with new release, I would like > to volunteer myself as GNU Screen maintainer. > > Some of you may know that I maintain separate development tree on github > (https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/d

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gerwitz
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:27:53PM +0200, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote: > > seeing as we came yet again to standstill with new release, I would like > to volunteer myself as GNU Screen maintainer. > [...] > Comments, suggestions, alternative solutions? I happened upon Amadeusz' development branch a n

[screen-devel] screen maintainer

2014-04-02 Thread Amadeusz Sławiński
Hello, seeing as we came yet again to standstill with new release, I would like to volunteer myself as GNU Screen maintainer. Some of you may know that I maintain separate development tree on github (https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/devel/src) in which I have a more than 300 changes committed

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-26 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Douthitt wrote: > Micah Cowan wrote: > I would think that one of the first things that needs to be done is a > code freeze in order to work on bugs only. Some features may also need > to be pushed to 4.1.1 or 4.2.0. I'm not sure if I want an ab

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-26 Thread David Douthitt
Micah Cowan wrote: Any and all help is absolutely appreciated! Regarding the documentation: are you familiar with the new vertical split, and layout features? These are things that do not appear in the documentation, but need to before a release can be made. I've heard of the vertical split, b

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-26 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Douthitt wrote: > Karl Berry wrote: >> And otherwise, we're looking for a new maintainer. So if you are >> interested in taking care of screen going forward, please write me and >> we can discuss. >> > I'd be willing to pitch in, though I don

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-25 Thread David Douthitt
Karl Berry wrote: And otherwise, we're looking for a new maintainer. So if you are interested in taking care of screen going forward, please write me and we can discuss. I'd be willing to pitch in, though I don't have a lot of time. I'd like to work on documentation and on patching, bugfixi

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-13 Thread Karl Berry
Actually, those are the sorts of things I _can_ commit to. Well, cool :). what I _can't_ commit to is heavy development stuff. It would be ideal for the maintainer to be a major developer also, but it's certainly not required. There are several packages where this is not the case. And

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-13 Thread Karl Berry
After that date we published updates through openSUSE. Oh. I had no idea. I'm glad to hear there have been subsequent releases! Can you please copy over the releases to ftp.gnu.org, and send future announcements to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Or maybe Micah can do these things. :) I'd like to a

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-13 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Juergen, Micha, Micah, and all, Glad to see such a rapid and prolific response! Let's see. First, one easy answer is yes, there is a ceremony for appointing new maintainers, at which rms officiates :). Developers who do not already maintain another GNU package need to look at the coding stan

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-13 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:09:50AM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: > Frankly, I'd opt for finding a new maintainer. My time on screen is > too limited to do any good. Micha is developing new features at a steady > pace, but also under limited time. > I believe we'd need someone to tend to bug repor

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-13 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Jun 12, 08 19:11:35 -0500, Karl Berry wrote: > Screen is such a popular and long-standing program, it's especially > important to have it be actively maintained. The last release I see on > ftp.gnu.org is from 2004 :(. After that date we published updates through openSUSE. > One immediate iss

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-12 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karl Berry wrote: > Hi Juergen, Micha, Micah, and all, > > Glad to see such a rapid and prolific response! > > Let's see. First, one easy answer is yes, there is a ceremony for > appointing new maintainers, at which rms officiates :). Developers wh

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-12 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thunderbird occasionally mistakes the quoting levels, apparently. For some reason, your response is "deeper" than mine. Juergen Weigert wrote: > Karl, your input is appreciated on this. > > On Jun 12, 08 11:02:47 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: > Hm, just

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-12 Thread Juergen Weigert
Karl, your input is appreciated on this. On Jun 12, 08 11:02:47 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hm, just to be clear, I was speaking of myself when I spoke of a > "vice-maintainer"; you'll still need to find someone to be the "real" > maintainer,

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-12 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hm, just to be clear, I was speaking of myself when I spoke of a "vice-maintainer"; you'll still need to find someone to be the "real" maintainer, I think, unless that would be help enough to allow you to remain in that role; there will at least need t

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-12 Thread Juergen Weigert
Okey dokey, Thank you Micah for volunteering! I am ready to step down and become Vice-Maintainer, I will continue to do my share of evil stress testing, and will do the next few official releases -- whenever we find we built something that is worth a release. No doubt. Micha is happy too with

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-11 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juergen Weigert wrote: > On Jun 12, 08 12:59:46 -0500, Karl Berry wrote: >> And otherwise, we're looking for a new maintainer. So if you are >> interested in taking care of screen going forward, please write me and >> we can discuss. > > Frankly, I'd

Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-11 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Jun 12, 08 12:59:46 -0500, Karl Berry wrote: > Hi, > > rms and I have been working on updating the official GNU maintainers > file, and have been unable to reach Jurgen Weigert, who's listed as the > maintainer of screen. Jurgen, if you're there, could you please reply > to me? (Or if anyone

[screen-devel] screen maintainer?

2008-06-11 Thread Karl Berry
Hi, rms and I have been working on updating the official GNU maintainers file, and have been unable to reach Jurgen Weigert, who's listed as the maintainer of screen. Jurgen, if you're there, could you please reply to me? (Or if anyone is in touch with him currently, likewise please let me know.