[sage-edu] Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread John Faig
Anyone interested in discussing a collaborative version of Sage? I am a math teacher and technology coordinator for 6-8 students. I see HUGE potential for Sage to become more of a collaborative environment between a teacher and students and between students. --~--~-~--~~

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:00 AM, John Faig wrote: > > Anyone interested in discussing a collaborative version of Sage?  I am > a math teacher and technology coordinator for 6-8 students.  I see > HUGE potential for Sage to become more of a collaborative environment > between a teacher and students

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread John Faig
David, I teach grades 6-8 in the US. Effective teaching combines coaching, projects, collaboration, personal interests and lots of feedback. My vision is to add collaboration features so that Sage become more of a math environment for students. This means a few things: 1. Improve the interfac

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi John, On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:04 AM, John Faig wrote: > Hope this helps. I have a vision in my head and this was a bit of a > stream of consciousness. > > Thanks in advance for any thoughts! I'm administering a Moodle class. My experience of Moodle so far is pretty good. I've heard of W

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM, John Faig wrote: > > David, > ... > > 1. Improve the interface so that students can explore more easily. > This could be a  dropdown box that lists all mathematical operations > by concept.  For example, there could be an "arithmetic group" with > add, subtract,

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
John Faig a écrit : > Anyone interested in discussing a collaborative version of Sage? I am > a math teacher and technology coordinator for 6-8 students. I see > HUGE potential for Sage to become more of a collaborative environment > between a teacher and students and between students. > > --~--

[sage-edu] log(x) versus ln(x)

2009-08-23 Thread William Stein
Hi, One nuisance in mathematics is the "ln(x)" notation for natural logarithms by students up to a certain age, followed by the "log(x)" notation used for exactly the same thing after a certain age. So I've always taken great pride that in Sage (and most other math software), "log" is the right

[sage-edu] Re: log(x) versus ln(x)

2009-08-23 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > ... > > sage: latex(log(x)) > \ln\left(x\right) > > What the heck is up with that typesetting as "ln"? > > Besides being annoying, this is inconsistent because log(x) prints as > "log(x)" in sage. > > sage: log(x) > log(x) > > Does

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM, David Joyner wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM, John Faig wrote: >> >> David, >> > > ... > >> >> 1. Improve the interface so that students can explore more easily. >> This could be a  dropdown box that lists all mathematical operations >> by concept.  For

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread John Faig
Minh, > I'm administering a Moodle class. My experience of Moodle so far is > pretty good. I've heard of WebWork, but have never used it. A few > months ago, I planned to integrate Sage with Moodle. It would be some > kind of package that allows Moodle to use the maths capabilities of > Sage. Al

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi John, On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, John Faig wrote: > > Below is a link to > Moodle documentation that discusses Sage integration: > > http://docs.moodle.org/en/Algebra_question_type Thank you for the link. Two more threads from Moodle: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=99401

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread John Faig
David, Thanks for the thoughts. I like your idea of using additional tabs or a toolbar. My idea of math operations could be implemented in a toolbar that sends code to a Sage session. Although it is a UI issue, I think it important for students to see the whole universe of possible operations

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM, John Faig wrote: > > Let's keep the conversation going. My big worry is that I am long > ideas and short on coding skills. Another worry on my part: little time to devote to such projects. -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread John Faig
Thierry, > Hello, > I am *very* interested. I am supposed to start a Sage server for *all* > the undergraduate students of my University (at least those learning > maths and computer sciences or physics). My contribution is very small: > add ldap identification, run a server on 3 "large" machines

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread John Faig
David, > This FF toolbar for blender reminds me of what you want (for Blender, rather > than for Sage). It is installed separately from Blender but provides a nice > some interface to some functionality Blender has. I wonder how hard it > would be to > create a Sage toolbar? I may have responded

[sage-edu] Re: Creating a collaborative version of Sage

2009-08-23 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:56 PM, John Faig wrote: > > Thierry, > >> Hello, >> I am *very* interested. I am supposed to start a Sage server for *all* >> the undergraduate students of my University (at least those learning >> maths and computer sciences or physics). My contribution is very small: >>