[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4 doctest failure on Mac PPC

2010-06-29 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 29 Jun., 04:04, Mike Hansen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Georg S. Weber > > wrote: > > I remember that once Michael Abshoff had created some mechanism to > > make the Sage/Maxima interface (i.e. the pexpect interface in general) > > produce verbose output into some log files (vi

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: William, Write a "Sagemath" Book for Packt Publishing!

2010-06-29 Thread Volker Braun
About a week ago I started getting an infinite redirect when trying to visit google groups with chrome 5.0.375. What fixed it for me was to delete all google.groups.com cookies in chrome (Options->Under the Hood->Content Settings->Show Cookies). Not only can I visit google groups, I can also open l

[sage-devel] sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, this message is cross-posted between the gentoo-science and sage-devel mailing lists. So this is sage-4.4.4 and we have come a long way. sage-on-gentoo is now usable for the majority of people and can be used to test development ideas. We have a page where we list our current issues: htt

Re: [sage-devel] sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Martin Albrecht
> Outstanding issues: > -singular: we really wish sage would move to the latest upstream. When we tried to update the last time we found a bug (or change of behaviour) in the most recent Singular release: cf. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8059 It is likely that upstream fixed it by

Re: [sage-devel] sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread François Bissey
> > Outstanding issues: > > -singular: we really wish sage would move to the latest upstream. > > When we tried to update the last time we found a bug (or change of > behaviour) in the most recent Singular release: > > cf. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8059 > > It is likely that ups

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: William, Write a "Sagemath" Book for Packt Publishing!

2010-06-29 Thread Simon King
Hi Volker, On Jun 29, 9:29 am, Volker Braun wrote: > About a week ago I started getting an infinite redirect when trying to > visit google groups with chrome 5.0.375. What fixed it for me was to > delete all google.groups.com cookies in chrome (Options->Under the > Hood->Content Settings->Show Co

Re: [sage-devel] sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/29/10 12:03 PM, François Bissey wrote: Hi all, this message is cross-posted between the gentoo-science and sage-devel mailing lists. So this is sage-4.4.4 and we have come a long way. sage-on-gentoo is now usable for the majority of people and can be used to test development ideas. Good

Re: Re: [sage-devel] sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Martin Albrecht
> I suspect the ONLY sensible way to do that would be to drop in new > Singular, delete all record of all the patches to singular package, and > create new patches as and when needed. You suspect wrong. A new Singular SPKG is available in the ticket I referenced in this thread which takes care of

Re: [sage-devel] sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/29/10 01:26 PM, Martin Albrecht wrote: I suspect the ONLY sensible way to do that would be to drop in new Singular, delete all record of all the patches to singular package, and create new patches as and when needed. You suspect wrong. A new Singular SPKG is available in the ticket I refe

[sage-devel] Re: moinmoin wiki deleting pages

2010-06-29 Thread kcrisman
On Jun 29, 1:53 am, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody have a clue why users accidentally randomly delete > Moinmoin pages all the time?  This is constantly happening to people > at Sage Days 22, with all kinds of browsers, networks, etc. > > This is very weird.  I couldn't find anythin

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4 doctest failure on Mac PPC

2010-06-29 Thread kcrisman
Thanks, Georg, for clarifying that it's Tiger, not PPC. This ticket is already open at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9361, and I will change it accordingly. - kcrisman On Jun 29, 3:26 am, "Georg S. Weber" wrote: > On 29 Jun., 04:04, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at

[sage-devel] Re: Clickable OS X app for 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread kcrisman
> sage-deluxe-4.4.4-i386-Darwin.dmg >         has the "new" application--it should be nicer, but more experimental. >  Please read the README and give me any feedback you have. > Thanks, Ivan! This looks like a monstrous improvement on the surface. Thanks so much for your hard work. I hope my

[sage-devel] sagemath.org, etc.

2010-06-29 Thread William Stein
Hi, The hard drive that serves the http://sagemath.org website, all wiki's, etc., stopped working at 3am this morning. It's in Seattle, and I'm in California.Tom Boothby is the other person who can work on this stuff, and I haven't heard from him for a while. Until I do, there will be major i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Clickable OS X app for 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:08 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> sage-deluxe-4.4.4-i386-Darwin.dmg >> has the "new" application--it should be nicer, but more >> experimental. Please read the README and give me any feedback you have. > > Thanks, Ivan! This looks like a monstrous improvement on the > sur

[sage-devel] Re: rpy2 can try to write outside SAGE_ROOT

2010-06-29 Thread Mariah
David, I just finished building sage-4.4.4.1 as a regular user (not root) on many of the Skynet Linux machines. I do not see the error message that you are reporting. Perhaps this is a problem only on Solaris machines? Mariah On Jun 28, 5:50 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > I noticed this err

Re: [sage-devel] Re: rpy2 can try to write outside SAGE_ROOT

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/29/10 04:26 PM, Mariah wrote: David, I just finished building sage-4.4.4.1 as a regular user (not root) on many of the Skynet Linux machines. I do not see the error message that you are reporting. Perhaps this is a problem only on Solaris machines? Mariah This particular problem may b

[sage-devel] Re: Clickable OS X app for 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread kcrisman
> > > So I made another folder to put it in, copied it there.  The same > > thing happened, even though that folder was otherwise empty - message > > "You can’t copy “Sage” because it has the same name as another item on > > the destination volume, and that volume doesn’t distinguish between > > up

Re: [sage-devel] Re: OpenSUSE source build failure

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/29/10 03:52 PM, caleb miles wrote: Hello, Compiling with gcc-4.3.5 produces the following error mkdir -p -- ../../../../library/grDevices/libs make[8]: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. That is usually the result of shared file system where the client and se

[sage-devel] Re: sagemath.org, etc.

2010-06-29 Thread William Stein
Hi, Thanks to some swift work by Tom Boothby, the sagemath.org website, wiki's, etc., are all back online. william On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:15 AM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > The hard drive that serves the http://sagemath.org website, all > wiki's, etc., stopped working at 3am this morning.

[sage-devel] unable to find changeset number

2010-06-29 Thread Uri
Dear Sage Developers, I have modified a patch that I proposed a while ago and needed to be improved and now I've submitted the change, but when I wanted to find the changeset number (by typing hg_sage.log() ) the first entry was not my changeset. Moreover, this entry was from January, which I think

[sage-devel] Re: non-QQ base rings in modular symbols

2010-06-29 Thread Robert Miller
The patch is up: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9376 I haven't tested it thoroughly yet. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group

[sage-devel] Re: sage-on-gentoo status at version 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread cschwan
On Jun 29, 1:03 pm, François Bissey wrote: > [..] excellent summary [..] > > If have been reading this far - thank you for your time. > Christopher may add comments on anything that I forgot. One thing: - We do not install scipy_sandbox but instead apply the patches from this ticket: http://trac

[sage-devel] Re: A bug in matrix conversion into Magma

2010-06-29 Thread Mariah
Kwankyu, This is now trac #9377. sage-support is a better place to report bugs. sage-devel is for discussions about development. Mariah On Jun 28, 10:45 pm, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > Hi, > > On Sage 4.4.4, I have the following bug. > > sage: F.=GF(4) > sage: m=matrix(2,[F(1),2,3,4]) > sage: magma

[sage-devel] Exiting Maxima twice?

2010-06-29 Thread kcrisman
Dear all, Does anyone know what is going on here (the double Maxima exit)? It must have something to do with the sum loading, I guess, since this doesn't happen with integration (see below). If someone has an older Sage it would be worth testing to make sure this happens there (this was all inco

[sage-devel] Re: OpenSUSE source build failure

2010-06-29 Thread caleb
Hello, I received the same error, relating to the installation of R; make[6]: Entering directory `/nano/scratch/camiles/binaries/sage-4.4.4/ spkg/build/r-2.10.1.p1/src/src/library/grDevices' Warning in solve.default(rgb) : unable to load shared library '/users/camiles/nano-scratch/binaries/ sa

[sage-devel] sage-native-execute and python

2010-06-29 Thread Nils Bruin
It seems that executing a python script via sage-native-execute can cause problems, because not everything gets reset: $ sage -sh Starting subshell with Sage environment variables set. Be sure to exit when you are done and do not do anything with other copies of Sage! Bypassing shell configurati

[sage-devel] Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've been chasing my tail much of today, trying to make Singular play ball. Managed to find out one for for sure. Someone has written a patch to src/Singular/Makefile.in, then someone else has written one to the same file and overwrote the first one. patch() { # work-around patches cp

[sage-devel] Case sensitive file systems WAS: Clickable OS X app for 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:41 AM, kcrisman wrote: >>> So I made another folder to put it in, copied it there. The same >>> thing happened, even though that folder was otherwise empty - message >>> "You can’t copy “Sage” because it has the same name as another item on >>> the destination volume, and th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Clickable OS X app for 4.4.4

2010-06-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:41 AM, kcrisman wrote: >>> So I made another folder to put it in, copied it there. The same >>> thing happened, even though that folder was otherwise empty - message >>> "You can’t copy “Sage” because it has the same name as another item on >>> the destination volume, and t

[sage-devel] Re: sage-native-execute and python

2010-06-29 Thread Nils Bruin
This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9386 I found that the symptom (with magma) is recent: It's due to the merger of http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8560 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

Re: [sage-devel] Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I've been chasing my tail much of today, trying to make Singular play ball. > Managed to find out one for for sure. Someone has written a patch to > src/Singular/Makefile.in, then someone else has written one to the same file > and overwro

Re: [sage-devel] Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread François Bissey
> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I've been chasing my tail much of today, trying to make Singular play > > ball. Managed to find out one for for sure. Someone has written a patch > > to src/Singular/Makefile.in, then someone else has written one to the > > same file and o

[sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Nils Bruin
On Jun 29, 4:13 pm, François Bissey wrote: > sage doesn't assume that the patch command is installed but rely on cp being > there. That's why patch aren't used. > I agree not ideal but that's a lowest common denominator issue. Perhaps compare the md5sum of the original and bail if it's not the ex

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread François Bissey
> On Jun 29, 4:13 pm, François Bissey wrote: > > sage doesn't assume that the patch command is installed but rely on cp > > being there. That's why patch aren't used. > > I agree not ideal but that's a lowest common denominator issue. > > Perhaps compare the md5sum of the original and bail if it'

Re: [sage-devel] Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread François Bissey
> I've been chasing my tail much of today, trying to make Singular play ball. > Managed to find out one for for sure. Someone has written a patch to > src/Singular/Makefile.in, then someone else has written one to the same > file and overwrote the first one. > What we need here is probably a stan

[sage-devel] Building ATLAS goes into an infinite loop

2010-06-29 Thread Oscar Gerardo Lazo Arjona
I just want to call attention here in sage-devel to what I consider to be an important bug: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9385 I'm compiling Sage in a fedora 13 Intel Core Duo laptop (1.8 Gb RAM). It normally takes about 6 hours to build previous versions of sage, however, it now

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Tim Daly
I'm surprised you don't use patch. Mercurial can generate patches. François Bissey wrote: On Jun 29, 4:13 pm, François Bissey wrote: sage doesn't assume that the patch command is installed but rely on cp being there. That's why patch aren't used. I agree not ideal but that's a lowest comm

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/30/10 12:54 AM, Tim Daly wrote: I'm surprised you don't use patch. Mercurial can generate patches. That would only be ok at the point Mercurial is built, so might be tricky. GNU patch is only 200 kB of source code. If we added 200 KB and removed all the duplicate files (leaving only pat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/30/10 12:39 AM, François Bissey wrote: On Jun 29, 4:13 pm, François Bissey wrote: sage doesn't assume that the patch command is installed but rely on cp being there. That's why patch aren't used. I agree not ideal but that's a lowest common denominator issue. Perhaps compare the md5sum

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > I'm surprised you don't use patch. > Mercurial can generate patches. The issue is not generating the patches -- it's applying them. All of the spkgs (should) have the diff as well as the file with the patch applied. --Mike -- To post to this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/30/10 12:20 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: On Jun 29, 4:13 pm, François Bissey wrote: sage doesn't assume that the patch command is installed but rely on cp being there. That's why patch aren't used. I agree not ideal but that's a lowest common denominator issue. Perhaps compare the md5sum of th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Tim Daly
Perhaps I'm being thick about this. In Axiom's build we have a zip file for GCL source code. At build time we unzip the GCL source, THEN apply our patches, THEN we do a build. Why wouldn't this process work in Sage? Sage requires all of GCC to be installed. Surely requiring patch is not a lot mo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > Perhaps I'm being thick about this. In Axiom's build > we have a zip file for GCL source code. At build time > we unzip the GCL source, THEN apply our patches, THEN > we do a build. > > Why wouldn't this process work in Sage? This is basically wh

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/30/10 01:02 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Tim Daly wrote: I'm surprised you don't use patch. Mercurial can generate patches. The issue is not generating the patches -- it's applying them. All of the spkgs (should) have the diff as well as the file with the pat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I can't myself see what we gain having the diff and the modified version. > Even if we stick to using 'cp' (which is a bad idea in my opinion), I would > much rather create the diff myself if I want to see it. The modified version is for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/30/10 01:38 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I can't myself see what we gain having the diff and the modified version. Even if we stick to using 'cp' (which is a bad idea in my opinion), I would much rather create the diff myself if I want t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > But if there are two three files > > src/foo.c > patches/foo.c > patches/foo.c.diff > > what does patches/foo.c.diff possibly give me that could could get by > running > > diff src/foo.c patches/foo.c ? This requires that patches/foo.c wa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patches overwriting patches in singular

2010-06-29 Thread Tim Daly
We use a naming convention for patches. Thus the 3rd new patch created today by me would have the name: 20100629.03.tpd.patch which orders the patches by date, sub-sequence, and author. You might want to use your spkg name instead as in: 20100629.03.singular.patch This would ensure that patche

[sage-devel] Sage-4.4.4 cdrom out

2010-06-29 Thread cch
Reference the picture: http://diffusion.cgu.edu.tw/ftp/sage-4.4.4.lzm Sage runs on both on web (firefox) and TeXmacs download site: http://diffusion.cgu.edu.tw/ftp/sage-4.4.4.iso md5: 3fe488d138e04cac70e888a2d74d6537 How to make a bootable USB version: Copy all the files to USB > boot/boot_in

[sage-devel] Re: A bug in matrix conversion into Magma

2010-06-29 Thread Kwankyu Lee
> This is now trac #9377. Thank you. > sage-support is a better place to report bugs. > sage-devel is for discussions about development. > > Mariah I see. Kwankyu -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-deve

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.4.4 cdrom out

2010-06-29 Thread cch
On Jun 30, 2:59 am, cch wrote: > Reference the picture:http://diffusion.cgu.edu.tw/ftp/sage-4.4.4.lzm > Correction: http://diffusion.cgu.edu.tw/ftp/sage-4.4.4.png -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-deve