On 15 June 2010 06:48, Dan Drake wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to test some patches and I want to try them on t2. I
> downloaded a binary [1], untarred it, and started it -- and it failed:
1) Can you try this binary
/usr/local/sage-4.3.0.1-Solaris-10-SPARC-sun4u-or-sun4v.tar.gz
It is old, but
On 15 June 2010 01:03, Bill Hart wrote:
> Why are they trying to link directly with the C++ standard library and
> libgcc_s anyway. That looks wrong. The system is supposed to do that,
> assuming you have the correct LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
LD_LIBRARY_PATH includes:
drkir...@hawk:~$ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PA
On 15 June 2010 02:41, Pablo De Napoli wrote:
> I really think that spliting users into "developers" and "non
> developers" is very much against the spirit of open source
I'm not sure if its against the spirit of open-source. Many of us use
packages we do not develop - OpenOffice is one example
I sympathise with David. We want volunteers to grab a file with a
low level of documentation and document it, which is already a lot of
work. But now it seems that the poor volunteer is expected to rewrite
all the code to fit into as well! Surely this is a different level
of activity and shoul
Hi all!
On Jun 12, 2:38 pm, John Cremona wrote:
> Is there still a wiki page for people to sign up to deal with one or
> more of these? Or a standard for trac ticket titles to ensure that
> effort is not duplicated?
This would be good to have.
For the record:
I took care of sage.categories.hom
On 15 June 2010 01:12, Bill Hart wrote:
> Just a note: the standard gcc with Debian Lenny is gcc 4.3.2. This is
> so buggy it fails to compile MPIR correctly. And yes, we've checked
> that it is a gcc bug and it has been reported.
>
> It is fixed in a later gcc. But that means all Debian Lenny use
Hi David,
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:08 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
> Does this produce a broken version of MPIR or does it stop MPIR from
> building?
GCC 4.3.2 on Debian 5.0 produces a broken build of MPIR. At least MPIR
2.1.0 builds on that system with that version of GCC, but the MPIR
checks fa
On 15 June 2010 05:21, Tom Coates wrote:
>
> Dear sage-devel,
>
> I believe that the following:
>
> sage: gamma(x).full_simplify()
> factorial(x - 1)
>
> is not correct, because in Sage factorial(x) is defined only if x is a
> non-negative integer. The problem arises because behind the scenes
> f
Reading again this discusion i have noticed that eigenspaces behaviour
is not what i expected:
sage: M=matrix(QQ,[[1,2],[3,4]])
sage: M.eigenspaces()
[
(a0, Vector space of degree 2 and dimension 1 over Number Field in a0
with defining polynomial x^2 - 5*x - 2
User basis matrix:
[ 1 1/3*
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 at 08:12AM +0100, David Kirkby wrote:
> 2) Minh created that binary you have. I would hope that adding the
> following to your LD_LIBRARY_PATH
>
> /usr/local/gcc-4.4.1-sun-linker/lib:/usr/local/gcc-4.4.1-sun-linker/lib/sparcv9:/usr/local/lib
>
> would allow that to work. With t
On 06/15/10 09:36 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 at 08:12AM +0100, David Kirkby wrote:
2) Minh created that binary you have. I would hope that adding the
following to your LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/usr/local/gcc-4.4.1-sun-linker/lib:/usr/local/gcc-4.4.1-sun-linker/lib/sparcv9:/usr/local/lib
On Jun 14, 11:46 pm, Florent Hivert
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 03:13:53PM -0700, daveloeffler wrote:
> > I've been doing some work adding doctests to some files that don't
> > have them, and the coverage script kept telling me to put in a
> > "TestSuite.run()" doctest.
>
> > Ca
On Jun 14, 11:25 pm, Jason Grout wrote:
> So the doctests for that function are useless for testing that function,
> obviously.
I've wondered before if there's any way to make the test script check
that a given function has actually been called. I've seen several
errors similar to the above, w
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Simon King
wrote:
> On Jun 12, 2:38 pm, John Cremona wrote:
> > Is there still a wiki page for people to sign up to deal with one or
> > more of these? Or a standard for trac ticket titles to ensure that
> > effort is not duplicated?
>
> This would be
On 06/15/10 09:13 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi David,
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:08 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
Does this produce a broken version of MPIR or does it stop MPIR from
building?
GCC 4.3.2 on Debian 5.0 produces a broken build of MPIR. At least MPIR
2.1.0 builds on that system with th
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:09 AM, daveloeffler wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 14, 11:25 pm, Jason Grout wrote:
>
>> So the doctests for that function are useless for testing that function,
>> obviously.
>
> I've wondered before if there's any way to make the test script check
> that a given function has actu
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:52:04AM +0100, John Cremona wrote:
> I sympathise with David. We want volunteers to grab a file with a
> low level of documentation and document it, which is already a lot of
> work. But now it seems that the poor volunteer is expected to rewrite
> all the code to fit
(I'm working on a couple of tickets but I can't remember my Sage wiki
account password -- can someone with admin rights reset it for me?)
On Jun 15, 10:14 am, Alex Ghitza wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Simon King
> wrote:
> > On Jun 12, 2:38 pm, John Cremona wrote:
> > > Is
Hi folks,
In trying to improve the documentation and doctests of the database of
common graphs [1], I come across what I think is rather inconsistent
or perhaps wrong. First, I created the bull graph using the built-in
graph generator. Then I computed the characteristic polynomial of the
bull grap
I'd say the characteristic polynomial is usually defined to be
det( xI-M ); this
is certainly the convention in graph theory.
Chris
On Jun 15, 7:21 am, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> In trying to improve the documentation and doctests of the database of
> common graphs [1], I come across wha
Hello !!
As far as I know, and I do not know much about such aspects of Graph
Theory, I would say that it makes no difference really... This
polynomial is of interest for its roots (eigenvalues), which do not
change when taking the opposite. By the way, the Mathematica page [1]
gives an odd answer
I've never seen the char poly defined as anything other than det(x *
Id - M). Wikipedia agrees, for instance, as does Lang's Algebra.
David
On Jun 15, 12:21 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> In trying to improve the documentation and doctests of the database of
> common graphs [1], I come a
On 6/15/10 6:21 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
As you can see, these two characteristic polynomials differ in only
their signs. One can be obtained from the other by multiplying through
by -1. What I would like to know is: Is there some reason for this
inconsistency? Or are the two characteristic polyn
On 15 June 2010 13:25, Jason Grout wrote:
> On 6/15/10 6:21 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>
>>
>> As you can see, these two characteristic polynomials differ in only
>> their signs. One can be obtained from the other by multiplying through
>> by -1. What I would like to know is: Is there some reason for
Dan,
Thanks for the feedback. I'll take a look at it. I'm going to guess
that the problem relates to the IcedTea package. Jmol only supports
the official Sun Java. The fact that you could get Jmol to run using
IcedTea is a major improvement. It didn't used to run at all. If you
get a chance
As an undergrad in France, I learned the definition of charpoly as det (
M- xI ) and remember, that our professor mentionned the other convention
as exotic.
Since then, I've worked on compting the charpoly during my phd thesis
and always chose to use the definition det (xI-M) which I found much
On Jun 15, 9:30 am, mhampton wrote:
> It looks like the cheapest booth we might qualify for (the "Special
> Category") is $602. To qualify, you have to have fewer than 6
> employees. We definitely meet that requirement, since I think we have
> 0 (at least full-time; maybe some positions at the
As ddrake pointed out when reviewing Trac #9240, I had misunderstood
the docstring of factorial() and so in Sage factorial(x) is in fact
equal to gamma(x+1):
sage: factorial(5)
120
sage: factorial(1/2)
1/2*sqrt(pi)
sage: factorial(1/21)
gamma(22/21)
Is this supposed to be the case? If so then I
Hi,
I have a question about passing down strings to functions of other
systems. For (a stupid) example, if I want to concatenate two strings
in GAP, I need to do:
sage: gap.Concatenation("\"foo\"", "\"bar\"")
foobar
Is there a reason that we can't just do the natural:
sage:
> As ddrake pointed out when reviewing Trac #9240, I had misunderstood
> the docstring of factorial() and so in Sage factorial(x) is in fact
> equal to gamma(x+1):
>
> sage: factorial(5)
> 120
> sage: factorial(1/2)
> 1/2*sqrt(pi)
> sage: factorial(1/21)
> gamma(22/21)
>
> Is this supposed to be
Hi there,
I'd like to have some crossref back and forth from sage source __doc__ to some
rst file under doc/en/... and as well to some html files provided by some
spkg. This raise two different but related questions:
1 - It seems that Sphinx build environment when building the reference ma
Hi folks,
I appreciate the feedbacks. I have documented the definition of
characteristic polynomials for graphs at ticket #9246:
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9246
The immortal words of Humpty Dumpty ring through the ages:
"When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean -
On 15 June 2010 17:17, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I appreciate the feedbacks. I have documented the definition of
> characteristic polynomials for graphs at ticket #9246:
>
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9246
>
> The immortal words of Humpty Dumpty ring through the ages:
>
> "
I haven't posted about this before, but on my OSX 10.6 MacBook Pro, I
have consistently gotten this error when doing doctesting of sage/plot/
plot3d/base.pyx. Built from scratch, doesn't matter. I figured it is
just my computer, but figured I'd ask if anyone else has seen
something like this. If
Hello,
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Florent Hivert
wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'd like to have some crossref back and forth from sage source __doc__ to some
> rst file under doc/en/... and as well to some html files provided by some
> spkg. This raise two different but related questions:
>
>
John Cremona wrote:
On 15 June 2010 17:17, Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi folks,
I appreciate the feedbacks. I have documented the definition of
characteristic polynomials for graphs at ticket #9246:
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9246
The immortal words of Humpty Dumpty ring through the a
On Jun 15, 2010, at 09:50 , kcrisman wrote:
I haven't posted about this before, but on my OSX 10.6 MacBook Pro, I
have consistently gotten this error when doing doctesting of sage/
plot/
plot3d/base.pyx. Built from scratch, doesn't matter. I figured it is
just my computer, but figured I'd a
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
wrote:
> I have a question about passing down strings to functions of other
> systems. For (a stupid) example, if I want to concatenate two strings
> in GAP, I need to do:
>
> sage: gap.Concatenation("\"foo\"", "\"bar\"")
> foobar
Or
sage:
Hi,
Sorry for replying to myself.
> I'd like to have some crossref back and forth from sage source __doc__ to some
> rst file under doc/en/... and as well to some html files provided by some
> spkg. This raise two different but related questions:
>
> 1 - It seems that Sphinx build enviro
I believe ticket #8700 (needs_review defect)
can be closed. It has a milestone of 4.4.4
and a patched spkg
libpng-1.2.35.p1.spkg
but libpng-1.2.35.p1.spkg is already
in 4.4.3 (and the problem mentioned in #8700
is fixed).
Can someone with the proper authority please
close #8700.
Mariah
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I believe ticket #5238 can be closed.
Ticket #5238 (remove qsieve.spkg and replace it by mpQS (part of FLINT))
should be closed because qsieve.spkg is no longer part of standard.
Would someone with the proper authority please
close #5238.
Mariah
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Hi,
While looking at the arguments for the notebook() command, the first
thing that comes to mind when I see "server_pool" is that it would be
possible to have the notebook server run worksheet processes on
different machines. However, the docstring and the examples seem to
suggest that it is (m
The following ticket has been marked as fixed and merged in 4.4.2:
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8645
however, I have just built 4.4.3 from source and the orginally
reported problem still occurs (i.e., "maxima.fasb" cannot be copied,
but maxima-5.20.1.p0 happily reports successful ins
> My vote is to have factorial(n) = n(n-1)...2.1 whenever n is integer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Florent
We certainly need to allow for symbolic input too, so that Sage can
simplify expressions involving factorials and binomial coefficients
such as:
sage: var('k,n')
(k, n)
sage: f = factorial(k)*factoria
Hi!
I am working with the gap3 devs on introspection with ?? I gather
that one approach is to implement _sage_src_ to return a string
representation of the code.
Any idea why the first example below gives a "source file open
failed", whereas the second works? Where is the code in charge
factorial(n+1)/factorial(n) is generally believed to be n+1.
It is proper treatment of matters like this that make simplification
interesting.
It is fairly pointless to raise an error for factorial for any number
except possibly
explicit negative integers.
It may also be counterproductive to c
invalid/wontfix means yet another thing. There is a link to
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8951, which is positive
review (by you!) but was not yet merged, since 4.4.4.alpha0 was only
pos. rev. tix (right?).
- kcrisman
On Jun 15, 6:18 pm, Nils Bruin wrote:
> The following ticket has
On Jun 15, 9:54 am, kcrisman wrote:
> On Jun 15, 9:30 am, mhampton wrote:
>
> > It looks like the cheapest booth we might qualify for (the "Special
> > Category") is $602. To qualify, you have to have fewer than 6
> > employees. We definitely meet that requirement, since I think we have
> > 0
On Jun 15, 5:05 pm, kcrisman wrote:
> invalid/wontfix means yet another thing.
"... than fixed" I presume. But #8645 is closed as "fixed", not as
"invalid" or "wontfix". I observed that the issue is not "fixed", so
that's why I suspected a misfiling. I don't know how important it is
to keep an acc
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Mariah Lenox wrote:
> Can someone with the proper authority please
> close #8700.
Done.
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mariah Lenox wrote:
> I believe ticket #5238 can be closed.
Done.
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For mo
I've now tested Sage 4.4.3 with sun java and ubuntu 10.04 32 bit
(don't have a 64 bit version installed). The 32 bit works fine.
On Jun 14, 9:15 pm, Dan Drake wrote:
> I tried Jason's spkg with 4.4.4.alpha0, and I never actually got my plot
> to display. The control panel showed up, and Jmol app
>
> That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, but the point is that funding
> would be a relatively trivial issue compared to staffing. Any
> takers? I guess Marshall and I are volunteering, based on our
> posts :)
>
> - kcrisman
Yes, I can commit to being there about 1/2 the time. Based on
previ
As ddrake pointed out in Trac #9248, even when x is in the symbolic
ring, factorial(x) is not simply calling gamma(x+1):
sage: x=I; factorial(x)
0.498015668118356 - 0.154949828301811*I
sage: gamma(x+1)
gamma(I + 1)
So something strange is going on. I think that the first example here
is probabl
On 16 June 2010 05:28, Tom Coates wrote:
>
> As ddrake pointed out in Trac #9248, even when x is in the symbolic
> ring, factorial(x) is not simply calling gamma(x+1):
>
> sage: x=I; factorial(x)
> 0.498015668118356 - 0.154949828301811*I
> sage: gamma(x+1)
> gamma(I + 1)
>
> So something strange i
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:43 PM, mhampton wrote:
>
>
>>
>> That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, but the point is that funding
>> would be a relatively trivial issue compared to staffing. Any
>> takers? I guess Marshall and I are volunteering, based on our
>> posts :)
>>
>> - kcrisman
>
> Yes, I
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