[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Categories for the working programmer

2009-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
>> Z is also a ring without one, i.e., Ring should inherit from Rng. > > Definitely. And this is the case. > >> I would rather say that Rng is a "ring" that *doesn't claim* the >> existence of 1. > > Yup, it's like non-associative rings of which rings are a special case. > Now, I need a better

[sage-devel] Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread Simon King
Hi! The mission statement or our project on cohomology rings says that we should make a data base publically available. It should in some way be available for Sage (say, as an optional/experimental package), but I wonder if it is possible. 1) An spkg just with our programs would be about 460 MB.

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
ahmet alper parker wrote: > Anyone know any technical paper about ergonomic and/or > functional/aesthetic development/design of a web sites? Why not do it > more scientific? :) FWIW, I used to meet someone on the train to work, who lived near me and worked at the same uni as me. As part of his

[sage-devel] How do I run the tests?

2009-05-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I finally managed to build sage-4.0.rc0 from source on a Sun Blade 2000 running Solaris 10 update 6. The machine has 8 GB of RAM. I used the Solaris tool chain from the web site, but had to edit a couple of files which had the hard-coded links to Michael's directory - discussed before). uname

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-27 Thread Michael Brickenstein
Well, if you want to know, what's possible look: http://www.csszengarden.com/ Michael On 27 Mai, 11:42, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > ahmet alper parker wrote: > > Anyone know any technical paper about ergonomic and/or > > functional/aesthetic development/design of a web sites? Why not do it > >

[sage-devel] Re: How do I run the tests?

2009-05-27 Thread Alex Ghitza
> > drkir...@kestrel:[~/sage/sage-4.0.rc0] $ ./sage > -- > | Sage Version 4.0.rc0, Release Date: 2009-05-21                     | > | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.        | > -

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread David Joyner
I'm not sure this will help but it is related to your question: http://wiki.sagemath.org/days4/projects/database On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Simon King wrote: > > Hi! > > The mission statement or our project on cohomology rings says that we > should make a data base publically available. It

[sage-devel] Re: How do I run the tests?

2009-05-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Alex Ghitza wrote: >> drkir...@kestrel:[~/sage/sage-4.0.rc0] $ ./sage >> -- >> | Sage Version 4.0.rc0, Release Date: 2009-05-21 | >> | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| >> ---

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread simon . king
Hi David, On May 27, 1:45 pm, David Joyner wrote: > I'm not sure this will help but it is related to your > question:http://wiki.sagemath.org/days4/projects/database Thank you! I wasn't aware that SQLDatabase exists in Sage. I thought I had to import sqlalchemy or something else. I will try a

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Wednesday 27 May 2009, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: > Hi David, > > On May 27, 1:45 pm, David Joyner wrote: > > I'm not sure this will help but it is related to your > > question:http://wiki.sagemath.org/days4/projects/database > > Thank you! I wasn't aware that SQLDatabase exists in Sage. I

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread simon . king
Hi Martin, On May 27, 2:28 pm, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Note that sqlalchemy is also in Sage, I'm not sure how it relates to this > class which was implemented by Emiliy Kirkman and Robert Miller before (?) > sqlalchemy was in Sage. I am familiar with neither SQLDatabase nor sqlalchemy (just kn

[sage-devel] Re: Testing and Verification of Sage + Mathematica

2009-05-27 Thread rjf
I'm not saying every polynomial multiplication program can be shown to be correct; just the method I suggested happens to be pretty simple. If you write a polynomial multiplication program that has certain breakpoints, e.g. switching to a different method like Karatsuba or FFT at size 3000, then

[sage-devel] Pari 3.3.4 + Sage Patches

2009-05-27 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, I am sitting here in Dagstuhl with Bill Allombert who complaints about that - we are still using Pari 3.3.3 but we should use the newest upstream release (3.3.4) and that - we still use our ad-hoc method to prevent exit(1) on error but we should register our own error handler. Bas

[sage-devel] Re: Pari 3.3.4 + Sage Patches

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > Hi there, > > I am sitting here in Dagstuhl with Bill Allombert who complaints about that > > - we are still using Pari 3.3.3 but we should use the newest upstream release > (3.3.4) and that > - we still use our ad-hoc method to prevent

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread Nick Alexander
> I am familiar with neither SQLDatabase nor sqlalchemy (just know they > exist). So, what are advantages or disadvantages? Neither am I, but can I suggest a database, modeled perhaps on David Kohel's marvelous genus 2 invariants database at http://echidna.maths.usyd.edu.au/kohel/dbs/ and s

[sage-devel] Re: Pari 3.3.4 + Sage Patches

2009-05-27 Thread Nick Alexander
On 27-May-09, at 9:01 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Martin Albrecht > wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I am sitting here in Dagstuhl with Bill Allombert who complaints >> about that >> >> - we are still using Pari 3.3.3 but we should use the newest >> upstream re

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Simon King wrote: > > Hi! > > The mission statement or our project on cohomology rings says that we > should make a data base publically available. It should in some way be > available for Sage (say, as an optional/experimental package), but I > wonder if it is po

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread Michael Brickenstein
I use SA on a daily basis and its feature set is awesome. I recommend to you using the declarative layer http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/05/ormtutorial.html#creating-table-class-and-mapper-all-at-once-declaratively This makes it easier to you, to jump into SA. Moreover, the declarative extension

[sage-devel] Re: Various questions on data bases for Sage

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Nick Alexander wrote: > >> I am familiar with neither SQLDatabase nor sqlalchemy (just know they >> exist). So, what are advantages or disadvantages? > > Neither am I, but can I suggest a database, modeled perhaps on David > Kohel's marvelous genus 2 invariants da

[sage-devel] Re: SimplicialComplex, missing facets method?

2009-05-27 Thread davidp
Thanks. I have switched to maximal_faces(). I had a simplicial complex, s, and typed "s." + TAB to see the completions. I saw s.facets, before seeing s.maximal_faces, then was confused by getting an error from s.facets(). It seems to be a convention with Sage to keep attributes hidden, so I th

[sage-devel] Numerical ODE solutions

2009-05-27 Thread Ryan Hinton
Are there any (good) numerical ODE solvers in Sage at the moment? Are any available via optional spkgs? Thanks! --- Ryan Hinton rw...@virginia.edu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this g

[sage-devel] Re: SimplicialComplex, missing facets method?

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, davidp wrote: > > Thanks.  I have switched to maximal_faces(). > > I had a simplicial complex, s, and typed "s." + TAB to see the > completions.  I saw s.facets, before seeing s.maximal_faces, then was > confused by getting an error from s.facets().  It seems to

[sage-devel] Re: Numerical ODE solutions

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ryan Hinton wrote: > > Are there any (good) numerical ODE solvers in Sage at the moment?  Are > any available via optional spkgs? Yes, see http://www.scipy.org/SciPy_Tutorial "Scipy includes several robust ODE solvers. ..." William > > Thanks! > > --- > Ryan

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-27 Thread Keith Clawson
I like the site the way it is. I've been translating many of the pages into Russian, and the great thing about the design is the simplicity. The source html reads more or less like LaTeX to me in that all the commands are meaningful and transparent. As far as the content, I think it is important t

[sage-devel] Re: Pari 3.3.4 + Sage Patches

2009-05-27 Thread John Cremona
2009/5/27 William Stein : > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Martin Albrecht > wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I am sitting here in Dagstuhl with Bill Allombert who complaints about that >> >> - we are still using Pari 3.3.3 but we should use the newest upstream release >> (3.3.4) and that >> - we

[sage-devel] trac.sagemath.org and sagenb.org

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
Hi, Lately http://trac.sagemath.org has been freezing at least 1-2 times per day, for various reasons I don't understand yet. It doesn't crash, the process keeps running, but the web server stops responding. I think this might have to do with heavy load as the site gets indexed (?), and the sq

[sage-devel] Re: SimplicialComplex, missing facets method?

2009-05-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 27, 11:51 am, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, davidp wrote: > > > Thanks.  I have switched to maximal_faces(). > > > I had a simplicial complex, s, and typed "s." + TAB to see the > > completions.  I saw s.facets, before seeing s.maximal_faces, then was > > conf

[sage-devel] reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread Jason Grout
I just noticed that there are *109* "needs review" tickets. Looking through the list at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/10 , I see some extremely cool pieces of code in trac. Just a reminder... Thanks, Jason P.S. There are 17 positive reviews waiting to be merged and 103 "needs

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On 5/27/09, Jason Grout wrote: > > > I just noticed that there are *109* "needs review" tickets. Looking > through the list at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/10 , I see > some extremely cool pieces of code in trac. > > Just a reminder... Hey Jason, Could you go through all 103 ticke

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I run the test suite for sage on a heavily loaded Sun Blade 2000. > > The following tests failed: >         sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/matrix/matrix2.pyx" >         sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/calculus/wester.py" >         sage -t  "devel/sa

[sage-devel] sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
Sage is being mentioned in the comments to this article: http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/27/1327255 -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send em

[sage-devel] Re: sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:01 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Sage is being mentioned in the comments to this article: > > http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/27/1327255 It even mentions my, Prabhu and Jaap's work on getting mayavi working in the sage notebook. Cool, it cost me several sl

[sage-devel] Re: sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread Jason Grout
Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:01 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Sage is being mentioned in the comments to this article: >> >> http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/27/1327255 > > It even mentions my, Prabhu and Jaap's work on getting mayavi working > in the sage noteboo

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread Marshall Hampton
I wonder if there could be an online mechanism for suggesting reviewers. Sometimes I look at a patch, and I think (for example) "I'm not sure I can review this well, but I bet X or Y could...". I don't want to "assign" them the ticket, since that seems overbearing. I know I would want to be info

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > I wonder if there could be an online mechanism for suggesting > reviewers.  Sometimes I look at a patch, and I think (for example) > "I'm not sure I can review this well, but I bet X or Y could...".  I > don't want to "assign" them the

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread Nick Alexander
On 27-May-09, at 8:43 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > Maybe I'm just hung up on the word "assign", since it does most of > what I would want, it just seems pushy. I put the relevant usernames in the cc: box, presuming that they might take the hint. Do they? I haven't collected data :) Nick

[sage-devel] Re: sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
Jason Grout wrote: > Ondrej Certik wrote: >> It even mentions my, Prabhu and Jaap's work on getting mayavi working >> in the sage notebook. Cool, it cost me several sleepless nights at the >> Siam conference. Here is the updated howto for getting it working in >> Sage/SPD: >> >> http://code.google

[sage-devel] Re: sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Prabhu Ramachandran wrote: > > Jason Grout wrote: >> Ondrej Certik wrote: >>> It even mentions my, Prabhu and Jaap's work on getting mayavi working >>> in the sage notebook. Cool, it cost me several sleepless nights at the >>> Siam conference. Here is the updated

[sage-devel] Re: sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
>> Many thanks for doing that!  BTW, is the little patch to embed the .x3d >> files in the notebook applied, should I submit a ticket? > > I think this goes to the notebook --- if Make is working on making it I mean Mike. Sorry. :) Ondrej --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread Craig Citro
>> Maybe I'm just hung up on the word "assign", since it does most of >> what I would want, it just seems pushy. > > I put the relevant usernames in the cc: box, presuming that they might > take the hint.  Do they?  I haven't collected data :) > Indeed, I think what Nick's describing is a really

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Craig Citro wrote: > >>> Maybe I'm just hung up on the word "assign", since it does most of >>> what I would want, it just seems pushy. >> >> I put the relevant usernames in the cc: box, presuming that they might >> take the hint.  Do they?  I haven't collected da

[sage-devel] Re: sage mentioned in slashdot comments right now

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Prabhu Ramachandran > wrote: >> >> Jason Grout wrote: >>> Ondrej Certik wrote: It even mentions my, Prabhu and Jaap's work on getting mayavi working in the sage notebook. Cool, it cost me severa

[sage-devel] Re: reviewing tickets

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Craig Citro wrote: >> Maybe I'm just hung up on the word "assign", since it does most of what I would want, it just seems pushy. >>> >>> I put the relevant usernames in the cc: box, presuming that

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-05-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > sage -t "devel/sage/sage/misc/misc_c.pyx" > ** > File > "/export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-4.0.rc0/devel/sage/sage/misc/misc_c.pyx", > line 359: > sage: test_bitset('00'*32, '01'*32, 64) > Expected: >

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-05-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/misc/misc_c.pyx" >> ** >> File >> "/export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-4.0.rc0/devel/sage/sage/misc/misc_c.pyx", >> line