[sage-devel] Re: Coercion

2008-05-13 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
There are also some further points about coercion in http://axiom-portal.newsynthesis.org/refs/articles/doye-aldor-phd.pdf Ralf On 05/12/2008 09:02 AM, TimDaly wrote: > If you're doing coercions you might find this paper of interest: > > Andreas Weber, "On Coherence in Computer Algebra" > Journ

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread mhampton
You probably already know this, but if not: perhaps you accidently clicked to the left of the matrix, and put it into latex mode. Once in this mode, I think it will stay there for that cell. So just click to the left until you get want you want. If you already knew to try that, I don't know wha

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:04 PM, elflapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can someone tell me if I am doing something wrong here? > I checked typeset and the matrices on top look right but the last > output only gives me latex code. > > http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008051216525510

[sage-devel] Joint Math Meetings opportunities

2008-05-13 Thread kcrisman
Dear Sage-devel, The JMM are in Washington, DC, this year, and I wanted to point out a few opportunities/events of interest to Sage folks. First, David Joyner, Marshall Hampton, and I have organized a panel session on using open source technology in undergraduate courses. We will definitely hav

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
I also had a similar problem that something was not typesetting, but didn't know about the left click, so maybe that was the cause. Another (and much more annoying) issue I had was missing plusses... When I was opening an existing worksheet, then SOMETIMES plusses were missing in SOME cells (hard

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I also had a similar problem that something was not typesetting, but > didn't know about the left click, so maybe that was the cause. Please try refresh rather than left click (or in addition). If that fixes the

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
> Please try refresh rather than left click (or in addition).  If that > fixes the problem, > then it might have something to do with trouble getting jsmath to > parse the output (i.e., > some sort of javascript timing issue). The fix I used before was creating a new cell with the same content an

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please try refresh rather than left click (or in addition). If that > > fixes the problem, > > then it might have something to do with trouble getting jsmath to > > parse the output (i.e., > > some sort of j

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread Francis Clarke
On May 13, 5:06 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really want to fix *every* single bug in the notebook that can be reliably > replicated (non-replicatable system-specific bugs are really hard to fix). > If you know of any please please report them.   A subtle problem with "%late

[sage-devel] SAGE at Jan 2009 AMS meeting

2008-05-13 Thread David Joyner
Hi: There will be 2 SAGE-related sessions at the next AMS national meeting. One is an AMS session on SAGE and mathematical research http://www.ams.org/amsmtgs/2110_special.html (not yet scheduled for a specific time) and the other an MAA panel discussion on Open source and mathematics education

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE at Jan 2009 AMS meeting

2008-05-13 Thread Jason Grout
David Joyner wrote: > Hi: > > There will be 2 SAGE-related sessions at the next AMS national meeting. > One is an AMS session on SAGE and mathematical research > http://www.ams.org/amsmtgs/2110_special.html (not yet > scheduled for a specific time) and the other an MAA panel discussion on > Open

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE at Jan 2009 AMS meeting

2008-05-13 Thread Craig Citro
> If you are a SAGE developer, could you please reply to this list (or just > to me, if you prefer) if you are thinking of attending this meeting? > I'm planning on going, though it's obviously still far off. Is the plan for it to be a fractionally numbered Sage Days again? 10.5 or 11.25 or so

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE at Jan 2009 AMS meeting

2008-05-13 Thread David Joyner
Good idea! I added that to the wiki: http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Craig Citro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you are a SAGE developer, could you please reply to this list (or just > > to me, if you prefer) if you are thinking of attending this meeting?

[sage-devel] infinity

2008-05-13 Thread John H Palmieri
I've been looking at some of the trac tickets. Two of them caught my eye, and I'm curious about them: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/2515 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1915 Both of them deal with Infinity. In the first one, someone suggests doing away with ExtendedRation

[sage-devel] Sage at ANTS

2008-05-13 Thread John Cremona
Are any other Sagers going to be at ANTS next week? http://ants.math.ucalgary.ca/ John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit t

[sage-devel] Re: infinity

2008-05-13 Thread David Roe
So, I think I was the one to rework infinity most recently. I don't really have time today to expand at length on the issues you brought up, but I agree with them to some extent. I will note that a coercion is "a natural map into the object," which is why your first example failed, but the __cal

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE at Jan 2009 AMS meeting

2008-05-13 Thread mhampton
I will be there. -M. Hampton On May 13, 2:58 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good idea! I added that to the wiki:http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Craig Citro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you are a SAGE developer, could you please repl

[sage-devel] Re: infinity

2008-05-13 Thread Bjake Hammersholt Roune
The current implementation using InfinityRing and SignedInfinityRing is very close to having a value saying "not defined" (i.e. NaN), and viewed in that light the way things currently work makes sense. It works for the purpose of not raising an exception on division by zero. I am not at all sure I

[sage-devel] [Fwd: Re: A free copy of Maple or a frre maple webservre]

2008-05-13 Thread Jaap Spies
Again FYI, Jaap Original Message Subject: Re: A free copy of Maple or a frre maple webservre Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:50:12 +0100 From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PRO

[sage-devel] something from sci.math.symbolic

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
Hi, I posted this message (see below) in response to this Sage-related thread on sci.math.symbolic that Jaap pointed out to me: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math.symbolic/browse_thread/thread/9ac833fc15d6f44a/eca285de0b86c5a7 It is mostly about Sage, so might be of interest to readers

[sage-devel] Re: Question about typeset in notebook

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Francis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 13, 5:06 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I really want to fix *every* single bug in the notebook that can be > reliably > > replicated (non-replicatable system-specific bugs are really har

[sage-devel] New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
Hi, A while ago we had a huge thread on sage-devel with lots of criticism that I dutifly listened to which resulted in the current sagemath.org frontpage. Every sentence of the current sagemath.org page got carefully written and rewritten numerous times based on *your* feedback. Recently I aske

[sage-devel] Re: New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread Yi Qiang
+1 on too much blueness. A couple of comments that were made previously but I think are important to reiterate: 1) Don't place equal weight on all the links. I think that the Download link should stand out since that's what most people want to do, or at least that's what we want them to do to tr

[sage-devel] Re: New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 13, 7:33 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > A while ago we had a huge thread on sage-devel with lots of criticism > that I dutifly > listened to which resulted in the current sagemath.org frontpage.  Every > sentence of the current sagemath.org page got carefully writt

[sage-devel] Re: something from sci.math.symbolic

2008-05-13 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > I posted this message (see below) in response to this Sage-related > thread on sci.math.symbolic > that Jaap pointed out to me: > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math.symbolic/browse_thread/thread/9ac833fc15d6f44a/eca285de0b86c5a7 > > It is mostly about

[sage-devel] Re: New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
1) I think that completely white background would be the best. 2) Going to the download page, the first sentence I read is "Sage for Microsoft Windows is currently not native available," (and at the first read I actually missed the word native). I don't think it is good to start describing techni

[sage-devel] Re: something from sci.math.symbolic

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I posted this message (see below) in response to this Sage-related > > thread on sci.math.symbolic > > that Jaap pointed out to me: > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sc

[sage-devel] Re: New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread William Stein
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Andrey Novoseltsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) I think that completely white background would be the best. I would love to see what this looks like. > 2) Going to the download page, the first sentence I read is "Sage for > Microsoft Windows is currently

[sage-devel] Re: New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 13 May 2008 at 07:33PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Recently I asked Harald Schilly to spend some time and create a new > fresh website design for Sage. His new design is here: > >http://lite.sagemath.org/ > > It rocks! It just looks modern. > > However, please, look at it, and c

[sage-devel] Re: New Sage website

2008-05-13 Thread Robert Bradshaw
I think it is very nice and fresh. +1 to most of the feedback given so far, especially being able to see the link destination when hovering. In addition: 1. One thing I liked about the old site was its use of icons (unfortunately, as it has evolved, the top part "announcement" of the page