Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:27, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >>> Robert Bradshaw writes: But yes, this sounds like a great idea! So the collection of .ebuild files (and their suppor

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-20 Thread Keshav Kini
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:27, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> Robert Bradshaw writes: >>> But yes, this sounds like a great idea! So the >>> collection of .ebuild files (and their supporting patches, etc.) is in >>> the Sage repository, but period

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Robert Bradshaw writes: >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >>> Robert Bradshaw writes: >>> In the category of "glue code" I meant to include everything in >>> $SAGE_LOCAL/bin/sage-*. I see much of that stuff as more relat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Robert Bradshaw writes: >>> But considering that we might one day want to make part of the Sage >>> library possible to install into your system Python distribution >>> (right?), it might be a good idea to keep it separate from the >>> "infras

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Robert Bradshaw writes: >>> Well, considering among other things the recent discussions about >>> licensing, I don't think that it's going to be possible to have a single >>> top-level repository for all Sage code. >> >> But for everything not

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Robert Bradshaw writes: > >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Jason Grout >> wrote: >>> You correctly interpreted my response, and I agree with your conclusions.  I >>> haven't used the sage branch-handling code in years. >> >> I used them e

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > A personal anecdote: I've used sage for about 4 years, but only started > contributing in the last couple of months because the development process > looks scary to an outsider. > > When I started, at every step of the process, I already kn

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/9/12 4:28 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> I think if we could get rid of a few magic commands in favor of 'mv', >> 'cp', and 'ln', it would make the process seem less daunting. > > > +1.  And then the new user that is learning how to do sa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/09/2012 04:18 PM, kcrisman wrote: I think you are totally missing the point. To a newbie who has heard of the following: cd mv hg ln you are right. My assumption is that we would like to be as inviting as possible to those who have not. (And they are legion; think of the Windows world

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/9/12 9:44 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 23:30, Jason Grout >>  wrote: >>> >>> I use separate directories in devel/ to have multiple versions of the new >>> sage notebook installed.  They're almost all git repositories,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread Keshav Kini
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 00:51, kcrisman wrote: > I think it's great that we've made the updates to the developer guide > that explain queues, and I have been using them a lot more for the > last year or so.  But remember, a lot of the infrastructure was put in > place in order to aid new developer

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread John Cremona
People are answering the question I intended to ask. So far no-one uses the branching mechanism. Who knows if it still worksif it doesn't someone should remove mention of it from the docs. John On 9 February 2012 15:53, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/9/12 9:44 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> >> On Th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread Keshav Kini
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 23:30, Jason Grout wrote: > I use separate directories in devel/ to have multiple versions of the new > sage notebook installed.  They're almost all git repositories, though :).  I > don't know if that counts as a yes or no to your question. IMO it's important to note that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread William Stein
On Feb 9, 2012 7:01 AM, "John Cremona" wrote: > > Does anyone still use branches? I haven't in years! >I used to always do a "sage -clone" > right after building a test version, but since using queues I never do > that. If I need to test something which affects more than the Sage > library, not

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread John Cremona
Does anyone still use branches? I used to always do a "sage -clone" right after building a test version, but since using queues I never do that. If I need to test something which affects more than the Sage library, notably a new version of an spkg, I just copy the entire build using cp -r, and wo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-09 Thread Keshav Kini
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 01:45, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> My $0.02. > > I disagree with what you wrote above.  Perhaps you have a different > impression than me of how Mercurial is used, given the relative sizes > of our contributions to the Sage l

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-08 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Sorry, I managed to activate some button on Google Groups accidentally and > prematurely post the above message... > > +100. Our main problem with Mercurial is that we are not *using* it. We are > just using Mercurial as a way for Jeroen to gene

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread Keshav Kini
Done! -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sag

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread David Roe
> +100. Our main problem with Mercurial is that we are not *using* it. We > are just using Mercurial as a way for Jeroen to generate changelogs, and no > other collaborative purpose whatsoever (despite what individual developers > such as William might be doing with qfinishing patches, committing,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-02-07 21:08, William Stein wrote: > What I'm suggesting is that the script that auto-adds ticket numbers > should strip the user-added ticket number first, to avoid extensive > duplication. If you send me the magic sed/awk/perl/python/whatever script to do this, I'll happily use it :-) --

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/7/12 2:46 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jason Grout >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 2/7/12 2:16 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:08 PM, William Stein  wrote: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/7/12 2:46 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jason Grout >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 2/7/12 2:16 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:08 PM, William Stein  wrote: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/7/12 2:16 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:08 PM, William Stein  wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Simon King >>>  wrote: Hi William, On 7 Feb., 20:47, William Stein  wrote: >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:08 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Simon King wrote: >> Hi William, >> >> On 7 Feb., 20:47, William Stein wrote: >>> It's important (in fact, critical) that the trac ticket number is >>> clearly available in the commit message.  But having it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-07 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Simon King wrote: > Hi William, > > On 7 Feb., 20:47, William Stein wrote: >> It's important (in fact, critical) that the trac ticket number is >> clearly available in the commit message.  But having it twice in two >> different ways in almost every message seems