Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:56:41 +0100 > Martin Albrecht wrote: > >> > I was thinking of setting up trac to send a notice to a mailing list >> > for each new issue. Then people interested in this effort can follow >> > this list and help out. Is

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-21 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:56:41 +0100 Martin Albrecht wrote: > > I was thinking of setting up trac to send a notice to a mailing list > > for each new issue. Then people interested in this effort can follow > > this list and help out. Is this possible? Can someone familiar with > > the trac set up c

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-21 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 17:45:08 +0200 Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2010-10-16 14:21, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > - look at newly submitted tickets, notify the related developers > How are you going to figure out who the "related developers" are? I'd say there is an unofficial list of people who care ab

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-18 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 10/16/10 01:21 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Motivated by the call for the bug days, here is an idea to manage the >> rapidly increasing number of "new" tickets on trac. > > It is well known in industry that the cost to fix b

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Mike Witt
On 10/17/2010 07:39:44 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: In a similar way I feel "bug fix only releases" would be useful, where one concentrates on removing bugs, and not adding features. That idea has however been very much disliked by many people. I believe that there are many people, who are n

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2010-10-16 14:21, Burcin Erocal wrote: > - look at newly submitted tickets, notify the related developers How are you going to figure out who the "related developers" are? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:03:29 +0100 Martin Albrecht wrote: > > I prefer "squad" to "wrangler," so I suggest PestSquad or > > TracNinja. :) > > > Does anybody else have suggestions for a name? > > "Since 2005 a crack commando unit of developers is blamed for bugs > they didn't commit. ... If you

Re: Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Martin Albrecht
> I prefer "squad" to "wrangler," so I suggest PestSquad or TracNinja. :) > Does anybody else have suggestions for a name? "Since 2005 a crack commando unit of developers is blamed for bugs they didn't commit. ... If you have a patch, if no-one else can help, and if you can e- mail them, maybe y

Re: Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Martin Albrecht
> I was thinking of setting up trac to send a notice to a mailing list > for each new issue. Then people interested in this effort can follow > this list and help out. Is this possible? Can someone familiar with the > trac set up comment? > IMHO, distributing work day by day, or weekly is still pu

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/17/10 03:16 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: Hi I believe any belief that having "bug hunt weeks" is a long term solution is rather flawed. The issues should be tackled at an earlier stage. Despite not being a sufficient solution, are they not nonetheless necessary? Or at least helpful? regar

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Martin, On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:42:26 +0100 Martin Albrecht wrote: > > We might be able to overcome this with a "bug-wrangler" team, people > > who volunteer to > > > > - look at newly submitted tickets, notify the related developers, > > ask for examples and test cases if the report doesn't

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Minh, On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:35:01 +1100 Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Burcin Erocal > wrote: > > We might be able to overcome this with a "bug-wrangler" team, > > I would have thought "weed-wrangler" or "pest-wrangler". You know, > Sage and horticulture :-) We sh

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2010-10-17 16:16, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > >> I believe any belief that having "bug hunt weeks" is a long term >> solution is rather flawed. The issues should be tackled at an >> earlier stage. > > Despite not being a sufficient solution, are they not nonetheless > necessary? Or at least h

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi > I believe any belief that having "bug hunt weeks" is a long term > solution is rather flawed. The issues should be tackled at an > earlier stage. Despite not being a sufficient solution, are they not nonetheless necessary? Or at least helpful? regards, Jan -- .~. /V\ Jan Groen

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/16/10 01:21 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: Hi, Motivated by the call for the bug days, here is an idea to manage the rapidly increasing number of "new" tickets on trac. It is well known in industry that the cost to fix bugs increases rapidly as they time to fix them is delayed. See for exampl

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-17 Thread Martin Albrecht
> We might be able to overcome this with a "bug-wrangler" team, people > who volunteer to > > - look at newly submitted tickets, notify the related developers, ask >for examples and test cases if the report doesn't provide them, >etc. > > - every once in a while, go through the open tic

Re: [sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Burcin, On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > We might be able to overcome this with a "bug-wrangler" team, I would have thought "weed-wrangler" or "pest-wrangler". You know, Sage and horticulture :-) > people > who volunteer to > >  - look at newly submitted tickets, not

[sage-devel] bug wranglers

2010-10-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, Motivated by the call for the bug days, here is an idea to manage the rapidly increasing number of "new" tickets on trac. Many of the bugs on trac are - duplicates, - already fixed, which can be closed after adding a doctest or - has not been seen by a developer who can fix it since kee