[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-30 Thread Niles
But it's not too hard to build up the 15 points necessary to vote -- I managed to do it yesterday. As I understand it, there are no restrictions on developers voting for projects they're currently involved with (that is -- go vote for sage!). One minor issue: I noticed that we have no hover text.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
> Thank you. > > How did you get all that reputation, just from associating your > StackOverflow profile? Yep. I was looking and there a _lot_ of people with 101 reputation. :-) -Ivan -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send a

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Eviatar
Thank you. How did you get all that reputation, just from associating your StackOverflow profile? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Niles
On Jan 29, 9:41 am, Ivan Andrus wrote: > Okay it's up > athttp://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/74983/open-source-advertising... > so feel free to vote for it. > > I think I can still edit it to point somewhere else if we want. > > -Ivan Thanks! Now I have to get some rep. points so I can v

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jan 29, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Ivan Andrus wrote: > On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Niles wrote: >> On Jan 29, 4:57 am, Eviatar wrote: >>> I can't post it because you need 10 reputation to post images. Anyone >>> have a Meta StackOverflow account with over 10 reputation? >> >> I can't help here, but

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Niles wrote: > On Jan 29, 4:57 am, Eviatar wrote: >> I can't post it because you need 10 reputation to post images. Anyone >> have a Meta StackOverflow account with over 10 reputation? > > I can't help here, but I did see that someone with +200 on > StackOverflow get

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Niles
On Jan 29, 4:57 am, Eviatar wrote: > I can't post it because you need 10 reputation to post images. Anyone > have a Meta StackOverflow account with over 10 reputation? I can't help here, but I did see that someone with +200 on StackOverflow gets a +100 bonus on Meta, so maybe someone else can h

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Eviatar
I can't post it because you need 10 reputation to post images. Anyone have a Meta StackOverflow account with over 10 reputation? Also, what page should I link to? Thanks in advance. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an em

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Emil Widmann wrote: > > On Jan 29, 8:04 am, Eviatar wrote: >> >I think it's really, really wonderful that you all are putting this >> >together; it seems like an excellent way to recruit new tallent from >> >outside of the academic mathematics community. >> >> I

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Emil Widmann
On Jan 29, 8:04 am, Eviatar wrote: > >I think it's really, really wonderful that you all are putting this > >together; it seems like an excellent way to recruit new tallent from > >outside of the academic mathematics community. > > I hope it does! > > Can I now make the submission, since there is

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-29 Thread Eviatar
>I think it's really, really wonderful that you all are putting this >together; it seems like an excellent way to recruit new tallent from >outside of the academic mathematics community. I hope it does! Can I now make the submission, since there is a majority on the choice of ad? -- To post to t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-28 Thread Ivan Andrus
I prefer number 3, but 2 is my second choice. -Ivan On Jan 29, 2011, at 6:35 AM, David Roe wrote: > I agree with William on "Eviatar 2": it's clear and concise. > David > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 00:25, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Harald Schilly > wrote: > > Here

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-28 Thread David Roe
I agree with William on "Eviatar 2": it's clear and concise. David On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 00:25, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Harald Schilly > wrote: > > Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. > > > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/marketing/

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-28 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/marketing/stackoverflow/stackoverflow-sage-schilly-01.png > Wow, we should use that somehow. (A t-shirt? Sticker? Illustration for the dev

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-28 Thread Eviatar
I made a very basic landing page: http://wiki.sagemath.org/StackOverflowLanding -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.goo

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-28 Thread Eviatar
You're right. Let's decide on one and get it published quickly! Thanks for making the page, it gives some perspective. I don't know about the "how to contribute" page. It does give a lot of information about contributing, but doesn't talk much about Sage. I think anyone wanting to contribute would

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-28 Thread Emil Widmann
> I fear this thread is going nowhere. Let's publish one and start with > the > wiki etc. For development this was published > recentlyhttp://www.liafa.jussieu.fr/~labbe/Sage/how-to-contribute/ I am sorry for "this thread is going no where", I obviously killed it, which is a shame. What I wanted

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Emil Widmann
I fear this thread is going nowhere. Let's publish one and start with the wiki etc. For development this was published recently http://www.liafa.jussieu.fr/~labbe/Sage/how-to-contribute/ -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 7:57 pm, Eviatar wrote: > Harald, I think your version is too crowded. The ad should convey > quickly what Sage is. > > You gave some good criticism; here's another version: > > http://tinyurl.com/487hagz I'm so nerdy. But seeing the Mandelbrot set in any orientation other than the

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Eviatar
Harald, I think your version is too crowded. The ad should convey quickly what Sage is. You gave some good criticism; here's another version: http://tinyurl.com/487hagz -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Eviatar
Regarding gradients, some people have said that they didn't want them to have a "vector" feel consistent with Sage design in general. I certainly wouldn't mind you coming up with another design; I'm sure somebody could make a better one. On Jan 27, 9:27 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Thursday, J

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:16:54AM -0800, Harald Schilly wrote: >Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. > > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/marketing/stackoverflow/stackoverflow-sage-schilly-01.png Wow, a beautiful summary of our development process! What about "#

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
Umm... busy? Maybe it would be helpful to compare it to the other logos which have been successful there; I'm imagining it that small, but maybe it will be rather larger than it looks in my browser. On Jan 27, 1:16 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. > >

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Harald Schilly
Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/marketing/stackoverflow/stackoverflow-sage-schilly-01.png H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubsc

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:47:29 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > > >http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z > I fear there is too much on this ad and it's too unorganized. You need to introduce more symmetry, maybe gradients, golden ratio and all that. The font is not so important as long it's readable.

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Niles
On Jan 27, 11:42 am, Emil Widmann wrote: > > I like ALL of Eviatars designs very much, though I would vote for the > 2nd. I think most important is to get them out "in the wild" soonest, > so please Eviatar publish. (I guess Link can be optimised later) Agreed -- some of the other designs ther

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 11:42 am, Emil Widmann wrote: > > This is probably the best choice of the options available.  Could > > someone with control over the website set up a page > > likehttp://sagemath.org/development-programmer.htmlwhich, for now, would > > redirect to development.html, but could be modi

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Emil Widmann
> This is probably the best choice of the options available.  Could > someone with control over the website set up a page > likehttp://sagemath.org/development-programmer.htmlwhich, for now, would > redirect to development.html, but could be modified later, once we > have some content specific

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Niles
On Jan 26, 9:40 pm, Eviatar wrote: > Maybe linking to this page:http://sagemath.org/development.html, or > the main page would be adequate? This is probably the best choice of the options available. Could someone with control over the website set up a page like http://sagemath.org/development

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 01/27/11 01:47 PM, kcrisman wrote: On Jan 27, 4:44 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: On 01/27/11 02:21 AM, Eviatar wrote: I changed the bottom text: http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z Would it not be better if the image had the colouration that is usually given which indicates the number of iter

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 4:44 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 01/27/11 02:21 AM, Eviatar wrote: > > > I changed the bottom text: > > >http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z > > Would it not be better if the image had the colouration that is usually given > which indicates the number of iterations before the point rema

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 01/27/11 02:21 AM, Eviatar wrote: I changed the bottom text: http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z Would it not be better if the image had the colouration that is usually given which indicates the number of iterations before the point remains bounded? It is much more ascetically pleasing to show th

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-26 Thread Rob Beezer
Nicely done! On Jan 26, 6:21 pm, Eviatar wrote: > I changed the bottom text: > > http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit th

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-26 Thread Eviatar
Thanks! Any idea what page the ad should link to? I like Niles's idea, but I don't think know if there will be time to make such a page. I don't see any deadline though... Maybe linking to this page: http://sagemath.org/development.html, or the main page would be adequate? -- To post to this gr

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-26 Thread mhampton
Very nice, I like it. -Marshall On Jan 26, 8:21 pm, Eviatar wrote: > I changed the bottom text: > > http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For mo

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-26 Thread Eviatar
I changed the bottom text: http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel U

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-24 Thread Niles
I like this a lot -- here are some of my thoughts: > In this context, the word "software" probably does not bring much > information. What about replacing the bottom line by, say > ``Mathematics in Python''? What about "Open-source, research-grade mathematics" ? or "Open source mathematics softw

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi! Cool picture! In this context, the word "software" probably does not bring much information. What about replacing the bottom line by, say ``Mathematics in Python''? Sure, that's not quite correct, and we could use help with people having experience in C/Javascript/... but that could

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-23 Thread Eviatar
>That's nice, although it would be good to mention something about the >languages invovled. It's possible to make big contributions to Sage >without knowing much or even caring about the mathematical software side >of things. Can you work in something about Python, C, and Javascript? >Maybe add in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-23 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > Advertising images target the emotions, not the intellect. > What images bring strong emotional responses to mathematicians? > Are Mandelbrot sets the leading edge of "cool"? > For the Sage crowd wouldn't an elliptic curve be better? > > Tim Daly Pe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-23 Thread Tim Daly
Advertising images target the emotions, not the intellect. What images bring strong emotional responses to mathematicians? Are Mandelbrot sets the leading edge of "cool"? For the Sage crowd wouldn't an elliptic curve be better? Tim Daly On 1/23/2011 7:56 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: On Sunday 23

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-23 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 23 January 2011, you wrote: > Here is a basic design: > > http://tinyurl.com/48xqfm5 > > Thoughts? Hi, I like the general idea but would suggest a few optimisations design wise. - I think the font isn't optimal. A sans serif font is a good choice I think but I would play around with

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-22 Thread Dan Drake
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 at 11:22AM +0900, Dan Drake wrote: > It might also be nice to ask for help, instead of just say that Sage is > math software. I like the git ad on the StackOverflow page -- it tells > you exactly what they want help with. Okay, I clearly need more coffee. The image got hidden b

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-22 Thread Dan Drake
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 at 05:12PM -0800, Eviatar wrote: > Here is a basic design: > > http://tinyurl.com/48xqfm5 That's nice, although it would be good to mention something about the languages invovled. It's possible to make big contributions to Sage without knowing much or even caring about the mat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-22 Thread Timothy Clemans
I like it. It would be fun to see what other designs you come up with. On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Eviatar wrote: > Here is a basic design: > > http://tinyurl.com/48xqfm5 > > Thoughts? > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this gro

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-22 Thread Eviatar
Here is a basic design: http://tinyurl.com/48xqfm5 Thoughts? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-22 Thread Eviatar
Wow, that would be a great opportunity for Sage. I'll see if I can come up with an image. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://g

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-22 Thread Eviatar
Wow, that would be a great opportunity for Sage. I'll see if I can come up with an image. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://g