[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-17 Thread David Møller Hansen
I agree John. It could be really cool and intuitive if the pairing also was accessible from the curve group E(F) with the whole torsion of m in it. In this way points P,Q would intuitively be expected to come from E (F). Wow.. Magma have a lot of pairings implemented.. Think I got my answer, t

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-15 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 15, 4:50 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WWMD (What Would Magma Do) ;-) Excellent. Have you just posted the T shirt slogan fro SD 12? > Cheers, > Martin Cheers, Michael > -- > name: Martin Albrecht > _pgp:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC9

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-15 Thread John Cremona
2008/11/15 Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Saturday 15 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: >> The pairing is 'just' a bilinear mapping of two point in a curve group >> into a "third" group, type depending on what pairing. >> >> I'm wondering where pairings should go in Sage struc

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Saturday 15 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: > The pairing is 'just' a bilinear mapping of two point in a curve group > into a "third" group, type depending on what pairing. > > I'm wondering where pairings should go in Sage structure? > > - any comments on that? WWMD (What Would Magm

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-15 Thread David Møller Hansen
The pairing is 'just' a bilinear mapping of two point in a curve group into a "third" group, type depending on what pairing. I'm wondering where pairings should go in Sage structure? - any comments on that? On 14 Nov., 19:38, Burcin Erocal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:10:

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:10:07 + Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2008, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:38:03 -0800 (PST) > > > > David Møller Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would really like to start such a project. > > > > > > Bu

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread David Møller Hansen
Yeah well I guess that the project would be started as an optional package at first and then if the code is licensed under GPLv3 it would be, I would guess straight forward to get it into Sage. I'll try to give some comments on the dev. guide after reading it. /David On 14 Nov., 15:05, Martin

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2008, William Stein wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Martin Albrecht >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Friday 14 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: >> >> I would really lik

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Friday 14 November 2008, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Martin Albrecht > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: > >> I would really like to start such a project. > > > > Great! > > > >> But I wouldn't know the first thin

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: >> I would really like to start such a project. > > Great! > >> But I wouldn't know the first thing on how to do so.. > > I suppose the first thing to do, is to lo

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Friday 14 November 2008, Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:38:03 -0800 (PST) > > David Møller Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would really like to start such a project. > > > > But I wouldn't know the first thing on how to do so.. > > > > - Think I'll start by reading up on

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Friday 14 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: > I would really like to start such a project. Great! > But I wouldn't know the first thing on how to do so.. I suppose the first thing to do, is to look through the list of requirements and check the PBC library if it qualifies. It can st

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:38:03 -0800 (PST) David Møller Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would really like to start such a project. > > But I wouldn't know the first thing on how to do so.. > > - Think I'll start by reading up on Sage dev. guide. > > Do you usually keep track of projects

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread David Møller Hansen
I would really like to start such a project. But I wouldn't know the first thing on how to do so.. - Think I'll start by reading up on Sage dev. guide. Do you usually keep track of projects here in the sage-devel group? On 14 Nov., 13:39, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Friday 14 November 2008, David Møller Hansen wrote: > I agree with the teaching and research justifying a slow > implementation. > > But in the not so distant future when every one is making Cython > wrappers of their c code and placing their code in SAGE won't it then > be a problem with dupli

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread David Møller Hansen
I agree with the teaching and research justifying a slow implementation. But in the not so distant future when every one is making Cython wrappers of their c code and placing their code in SAGE won't it then be a problem with duplication of functionality? Couldn't a lot of similar functions "wate

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-14 Thread David Møller Hansen
I agree with the teaching and research justifying a slow implementation. But in the not so distant future when every one is making Cython wrappers of their c code and placing their code in SAGE won't it then be a problem with duplication of functionality? Couldn't a lot of similar functions "wate

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 13, 8:19 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:18 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 13, 8:13 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my code will be pretty > >> > obso

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 13, 8:18 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 13, 8:13 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my code will be pretty > > > obsolete when the pbc library is ported into SAGE... > > > Is anyone working on this? >

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:18 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 13, 8:13 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> > I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my code will be pretty >> > obsolete when the pbc library is ported into SAGE... >> >> Is anyone workin

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread Martin Albrecht
> I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my code will be pretty > obsolete when the pbc library is ported into SAGE... Is anyone working on this? Cheers, Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC99 _www: http://www.informatik.uni

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:02 AM, David Møller Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good point on the multi-user system. Maybe a script is the best way to > go about the problem of initializing the signature scheme for my > thesis professors. > > I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 13, 8:13 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my code will be pretty > > obsolete when the pbc library is ported into SAGE... > > Is anyone working on this? Not that I am aware of. The issue last time this came up was that pbc

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread David Møller Hansen
Good point on the multi-user system. Maybe a script is the best way to go about the problem of initializing the signature scheme for my thesis professors. I will gladly contribute, but I'm guessing that my code will be pretty obsolete when the pbc library is ported into SAGE... - I'll just have

[sage-devel] Re: Best way to package code written in SAGE

2008-11-13 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:03 AM, David Møller Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > So I'm getting to the point in my masters thesis where I have coded > some different .sage files and now I have to package it in some way > making it easy to use with SAGE for my professor and the censor. >