Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread kcrisman
> > Once more, the rules make a point to enforce politeness but they seem > to avoid things like having the respect to answer a honest question. > > Collated for ease of reply, though there were also implicit questions and examples of what was meant in the email. - what is our commitment to

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello guys, Once more, the rules make a point to enforce politeness but they seem to avoid things like having the respect to answer a honest question. Could we thus have an answer to the ones aked by Therry ? Not ignoring anybody is also part of elementary "friendliness". Nathann On 25 Novembe

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread kcrisman
> > > [Edited because this should be a family show] > > I was trying to be sarcastic and make visible a risk for machismo or > androcracy that could follow from establishing some kind of competition > within the community. > > I realize that the way i wrote those two lines somehow strengthen

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry
> > [Edited because this should be a family show] I was trying to be sarcastic and make visible a risk for machismo or androcracy that could follow from establishing some kind of competition within the community. I realize that the way i wrote those two lines somehow strengthen such theses. I am

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry
Hi, On 24/11/2014 15:06, kcrisman wrote: > It seemed to me that this was an attempt to provide some slightly less > arbitrary measure than "the BDFL and whoever he likes" or "the release > manager and his friends". I am pretty sure that there were calls to > perhaps find a different measure. Natur

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread kcrisman
> > Trac tickets and comments, however, are public. Thus, among the many > good questions raised by Thierry which deserve an answer, I am also > interested by the answer to the following question: > > I consider myself as a Sage developer, i have never heard about this > initiative before. Cou

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello, > Realistically, that is not how we operate. Somebody opens a ticket, works on > it, and then posts the result for review. I have found quite a number of > random failures on the buildbot (tagged by the random_fail keyword: > http://trac.sagemath.org/query?keywords=~random_fail) and nobody

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-23 Thread Vincent Delecroix
> For example: > > - what is our commitment to free software ? > - should we collaborate (fund, advertise,...) with closed proprietary > software ? > - how do we take decisions (equality, transparency, collaboration, taking > care of minorities,...) ? > - are there some reserved territories wit