Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote: Removing Automatic PR Size Labels

2024-07-03 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Matthias, let me very explicitly address your points to make sure that you recognized that I did address them (as per your remark 5). 0: That is a misrepresentation of my point: before changes are implemented that affect all developers, some outreach effort to all developers should be done. I a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote: Removing Automatic PR Size Labels

2024-07-03 Thread Kwankyu Lee
6. Finally, the idea that after a vote has ended, someone has the duty to implement it, is fundamentally flawed. Right. The voting on sage-devel has been a means to get approval from the community for a proposal that the initiator wants to implement. On the other hand, there is no clearcut

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote: Removing Automatic PR Size Labels

2024-07-03 Thread Matthias Koeppe
This vote is really a showcase of flawed governance. 0. The very premise, that somehow the developers are entitled to the status quo of the development infrastructure, is fundamentally flawed. As a reminder, the current status quo was established just over a year ago in the Trac-to-GitHub migrat

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.4.rc1 released

2024-07-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 6:00 PM Matthias Köppe wrote: > > https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/38201 is waiting for review. yes, this works as a fix for #38190 Although the whole purpose of sagemath_environment is unclear to me. It was promoted to optional in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/p

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gfortran error in installation of cbc

2024-07-03 Thread Jan V.
I have now updated sage to the current version (10.4.rc1), and the problem is solved. Thanks for the advice! Dima Pasechnik schrieb am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2024 um 16:58:06 UTC+2: > Can you just install and use Homebrew gfortran (a part of gcc package) ? > > I don't really think Sage should be in b

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 10:49 AM Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > I gave a look at the test Discourse site > https://sagemath-test.discourse.group/ > (thank you Matthias for setting it up!) > as well as to the Jupyter Discourse site pointed out by Dima: > https://discourse.jupyter.org/ > DIscourse is cle

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 10:43 AM Sébastien Labbé wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:35:57 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a > plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 > > > Karma is part of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gfortran error in installation of cbc

2024-07-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Can you just install and use Homebrew gfortran (a part of gcc package) ? I don't really think Sage should be in business of helping users to install Fortran on their Apple machines - at least without appropriate funding from Apple :-) On 2 July 2024 19:35:35 BST, Matthias Koeppe wrote: >Pleas

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote: Removing Automatic PR Size Labels

2024-07-03 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 11:35:37 PM UTC+9 Matthias Koeppe wrote: It really does not work this way. This is how we have always done things when there is a dispute, we vote on it. You might not like the result, but there is a clear consensus after a vote and discussion. I am happy to have a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le mercredi 3 juillet 2024 à 11:43:52 UTC+2, Sébastien Labbé a écrit : On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:35:57 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 Karma is part of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi, I gave a look at the test Discourse site https://sagemath-test.discourse.group/ (thank you Matthias for setting it up!) as well as to the Jupyter Discourse site pointed out by Dima: https://discourse.jupyter.org/ DIscourse is clearly a high quality tool but I agree with Sébastien that it is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Sébastien Labbé
On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:35:57 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 Karma is part of the many good aspects of ask.sagemath.org, but it is mostly about hum

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Pollard Lambda fails to find valid discrete logarithm

2024-07-03 Thread Georgi Guninski
On second thought this is not a bug but a feature, but I recommend the documentation should make it clear that solution might exist. Since the lambda log uses random integers, it depends on the current state of the pseudo random generator and different states might give result or a failure I repr