Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
I just updated the project with some excel + csv files with a much more indepth inventory. Also, concerning ansible -- this is what I used when working on things this summer (see https://github.com/ohanar/sagemath.org). I found that when you use any well supported plugin, using ansible was very pl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread kcrisman
Please try to understand, once again, that you are at CNRS in a very > fortunate and exceptional position, and many people are much less > lucky. Try to get a grant and manage it to see my point :-) > > > And (not speaking to Nathann or anyone else) try it when teaching a 3-3 or 4-4 load at a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 07:23:26AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Related question: Does the ODK grant have a hardware or computing > budget or money that could be allocated to that? If so, how are you > planning to use it (or is there a plan yet)? I ask only because > we might coordinate our

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 16 September 2015 at 10:36, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Dima, > >> E.g. as far as I am concerned, it's thanks to ODK, which pays 50% of my >> salary, that I can set aside time for this. > > You are of course welcome (and probably bound) to spend 50% of your working > time > on whatever is in OpenDre

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
Dima, > E.g. as far as I am concerned, it's thanks to ODK, which pays 50% of my > salary, that I can set aside time for this. You are of course welcome (and probably bound) to spend 50% of your working time on whatever is in OpenDreamKit's plan. Now, I'm sorry to say that I read Nicolas' message

Re: [sagemath-admins] Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > On 16 September 2015 at 18:44, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> Nicolas is totally correct here. E.g. as far as I am concerned, it's >> thanks to ODK, which pays 50% of my salary, that I can set aside time >> for this. >> > > > I work

Re: [sagemath-admins] Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 16 September 2015 at 18:44, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Nicolas is totally correct here. E.g. as far as I am concerned, it's > thanks to ODK, which pays 50% of my salary, that I can set aside time > for this. > > I work on this because of when it aligns with AIMS goals/needs (some of which

[sage-devel] adventures with cdefs.h on OS X

2015-09-16 Thread Bill Janssen
Thought I'd share this in case anyone else blundered in the same way I just did... I installed 6.8 on an OS X Mavericks (10.9) system on which the "xcode-select --install" command had not been run. I ran "sage -upgrade" to upgrade it. I then tried to install a custom spkg, which failed in the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 16 September 2015 at 02:40, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> I believe this will help quite some ODK toward its aims. So, Vincent, >> Samuel, Dima, if you feel like it, it would be natural to count some >> of your work here as part of your ODK contribution. We need to fit this >> into some of our delive

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:25 AM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > A concrete first task is to add everybody on the following list to the > sagemath-admins mailing list (by tracking down their emails), etc.. Samuel Lelievre has volunteered to do this. Thanks! > Can one of you volunteer to do this,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:09 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > >>> As far I am concerned, I don't mind if you manage your small company on >>> another mailing list. >>> >>> >> Surely you cared way more about Sage succeeding than petty issues of >> credit!? >> > > > Just to be clear, it does seem a bit confu

[sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread kcrisman
As far I am concerned, I don't mind if you manage your small company on >> another mailing list. >> >> >> Surely you cared way more about Sage succeeding than petty issues of > credit!? > > Just to be clear, it does seem a bit confusing at times what discussions are SMC Inc related and what

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
>> If it is "doable", then indeed it would solve my problem and (to me) >> does not seem to induce any tricky behaviour. > > In this case: > > sage: [x.polynomial() for x in K1] > [0, a, a^2, a + 1, a^2 + a, a^2 + a + 1, a^2 + 1, 1] > sage: [K2(x.polynomial()) for x in K1] > [0, b, b^2, b + 1, b^2

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread John Cremona
On 16 September 2015 at 15:52, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello, > >> In your case it is slightly more specific as it might be the case that K1 >> and K2 are constructed in the same exact way (expect for the string 'a' and >> 'b') so we could just decide to send "a" onto "b", but I'm not sure it is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 16 September 2015 at 16:20, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > There's starting to be some initial work in > > > https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/f125ea34-9817-4715-b879-e26e0c7fcb7c/files/public/ > > Who on the list of people below has experience with managing a > nontrivial hardware clust

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello, > In your case it is slightly more specific as it might be the case that K1 and > K2 are constructed in the same exact way (expect for the string 'a' and 'b') > so we could just decide to send "a" onto "b", but I'm not sure it is very > helpful to define an exception in this case. If it

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Hi, I guess one of the issue is that there is no canonical map between two different representations of the same finite field (so no coercion). In your case it is slightly more specific as it might be the case that K1 and K2 are constructed in the same exact way (expect for the string 'a' and '

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > Hi all, > > I can also help if needed. Thanks! I've added you to the project and list: https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/f125ea34-9817-4715-b879-e26e0c7fcb7c/files/public/ > Maybe that would make the french admins count too high :)

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Hi all, I can also help if needed. Maybe that would make the french admins count too high :) Best, JP On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 4:26:08 PM UTC+2, William wrote: > > Hi, > > A concrete first task is to add everybody on the following list to the > sagemath-admins mailing list (by track

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
Hi, A concrete first task is to add everybody on the following list to the sagemath-admins mailing list (by tracking down their emails), etc.. Can one of you volunteer to do this, and once you do I'll add you and make you an owner of that list, so you can add other people: - William Stein - Andre

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:55:55AM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> I think the current Sage UW cluster team is: >> >>- William Stein >>- Andrey Novoseltsev >>- Dima Pasechnik >>- Vincent Delecroix >>- Thierry >>- Sa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
Hi, There's starting to be some initial work in https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/f125ea34-9817-4715-b879-e26e0c7fcb7c/files/public/ Who on the list of people below has experience with managing a nontrivial hardware cluster and wants to share how they do it? Jan Groenewald, maybe you can

[sage-devel] Re: Sage build from source fails on OS X 10.9

2015-09-16 Thread Jeroen Sijsling
It may be useful to mention here that I did manage to build with my default .bashrc in the end, so with Homebrew installed and /usr/local/ in the PATH. The issue here, as far as I understand, is that Homebrew has an installation option --with-default-names, which, if set, places utils in /usr/l

Re: [sage-devel] tickets done by specific patchbot

2015-09-16 Thread Vincent Delecroix
http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket/?machine=Ubuntu:14.04:i686:3.13.0-40-generic:arando I get there by clicking on the machine I wanted to see. On 16/09/15 04:26, Daniel Krenn wrote: On 2015-09-16 09:23, Daniel Krenn wrote: is there a report on patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket to see the tickets

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
William, If you want to discuss this issue further, please send me a private email. Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr..

[sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015, Nathann Cohen wrote: > I believe this will help quite some ODK toward its aims. So, Vincent, >> Samuel, Dima, if you feel like it, it would be natural to count some >> of your work here as part of your ODK contribution. We need to fit this >> into some of our del

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
> > I believe this will help quite some ODK toward its aims. So, Vincent, > Samuel, Dima, if you feel like it, it would be natural to count some > of your work here as part of your ODK contribution. We need to fit this > into some of our deliverables. The closest match I found for now is: > >D3

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:55:55AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > I think the current Sage UW cluster team is: > >- William Stein >- Andrey Novoseltsev >- Dima Pasechnik >- Vincent Delecroix >- Thierry >- Samuel Lelievre >- Harald Schilly >- Andrew Ohana (minimal av

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
> > GF(4) is not a subfield of GF(8). > Oh. Right. Actually, the problem with my code happened when both finite fields were equal, and I wrote this message without thinking. sage: K1 = GF(8,'a') sage: K2 = GF(8,'b') sage: K2(K1(1)) TypeError: unable to coerce from a finite fiel

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread John Cremona
GF(4) is not a subfield of GF(8). John On 16 September 2015 at 10:16, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I am rather ignorant of Sage matters when it comes to finite fields. I have > been playing with matrices for a while, working around a bug that I did not > understand. It is now solv

[sage-devel] Coercion between finite fields

2015-09-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody, I am rather ignorant of Sage matters when it comes to finite fields. I have been playing with matrices for a while, working around a bug that I did not understand. It is now solved, but here is what it boils down to: sage: K1 = GF(4,'w') sage: K2 = GF(8,'x') sage: K2(

Re: [sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-16 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi William, Please add me too. We'd be happy to help with what we already do: buildslaves for Debian/Ubuntu, PPA autobuild, perhaps some of this can be migrated onto those servers. We're most comfortable working on Debian/Ubuntu with LXC. Regards, Jan On 15 September 2015 at 21:22, William Stei

Re: [sage-devel] tickets done by specific patchbot

2015-09-16 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2015-09-16 09:23, Daniel Krenn wrote: is there a report on patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket to see the tickets done by a specific patchbot? Managed with machine= and then not only the name but the full uname-description. Best Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[sage-devel] tickets done by specific patchbot

2015-09-16 Thread Daniel Krenn
Hi, is there a report on patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket to see the tickets done by a specific patchbot? Best Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email