[sage-devel] Re: Several years of bug reports

2013-12-19 Thread P Purkayastha
So, is it confirmed that the redirect will be to ask.sagemath? If so, I will merge the changes in #186 and #187 which links the notebook to the URL provided by Harald. - basu. On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:22:05 PM UTC+8, P Purkayastha wrote: > > On 12/10/2013 11:08 PM, Harald Schilly wrote

[sage-devel] Error with trac

2013-12-19 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
I'm getting the following error anytime I try to attach a new branch to a ticket which previously didn't have one (in particular #12453 and #9280): *Trac detected an internal error:* TypeError: 'unicode' object is not callable There was an internal error in Trac. It is recommended that you noti

[sage-devel] Re: Error building Sage: conway_polynomials-0.4.p0 (reporting as directed)

2013-12-19 Thread Charles Greathouse
I tried that now with the same results: Found package conway_polynomials-0.4.p0 in spkg/standard/conway_polynomials-0.4.p0.spkg conway_polynomials-0.4.p0 Extracting package /home/charles/mth/sage-5.13/spkg/standard/conway_polynomials-0.4.p0.s

Re: [sage-devel] GAP3

2013-12-19 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 07:18:00AM -0800, arcisd wrote: > I have a problem installing the GAP3 package in sage: > > > Error compiling Gap3 > > real 0m18.381s > user 0m17.921s > sys 0m0.584s >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread Vincent Delecroix
And meromorphic functions are not stable under composition... 2013/12/19, Nils Bruin : > On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:04:22 PM UTC-10, maldun wrote: >> >> What I mean is that we should only allow expressions of meromorphic >> functions in the symbolic field, i.e. we would only allow variable

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread Nils Bruin
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:04:22 PM UTC-10, maldun wrote: > > What I mean is that we should only allow expressions of meromorphic > functions in the symbolic field, i.e. we would only allow variables, > trigonometric functions and so on. > SR should be then a superset where everything els

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
Sorry my Mistake, but if you look into the text you quoted, I already corrected it: ... > ... The ring of analytic > functions is an Integral domain. ... Continous is of course not sufficient. On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:12:15 AM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: > > On 19 December 2013 09:04,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
Sorry my Mistake, but if you look into the text you quoted, I already it: ... > that the Kronecker delta is not a continuous function. The ring of analytic > functions is an Integral domain. ... Continous is of course not sufficient. On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:12:15 AM UTC+1, John Crem

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What does it mean for a ticket to be closed?

2013-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:42:23 AM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > You could consider closing a ticket only *after* testing it on the > buildbot (that was what I did) when it is as good as certain that it > will actually be merged. Yes, I've been doing both depending on how probable it s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What does it mean for a ticket to be closed?

2013-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2013-12-19 12:38, Volker Braun wrote: On Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:35:31 AM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: OK, so it doesn't really mean anything in practice. If there are problems on the buildbot, you will re-open it, right? Yes, of course. You could consider closing a ticket only

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What does it mean for a ticket to be closed?

2013-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:35:31 AM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > OK, so it doesn't really mean anything in practice. If there are > problems on the buildbot, you will re-open it, right? > Yes, of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What does it mean for a ticket to be closed?

2013-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2013-12-19 12:33, Volker Braun wrote: Ticket closed means it is merged on my local "develop" branch. Which you can find mirrored if you dig around in my own github account, since that is where the buildbot pulls from. OK, so it doesn't really mean anything in practice. If there are problems o

[sage-devel] Re: What does it mean for a ticket to be closed?

2013-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
Ticket closed means it is merged on my local "develop" branch. Which you can find mirrored if you dig around in my own github account, since that is where the buildbot pulls from. I hope its clear that this branch must not be used to base your own development on. The branch will be pushed to th

[sage-devel] Problems login to the trac server

2013-12-19 Thread luisfe
Dear devs, Is there any problem login to the trac server? I am not able to login, I have asked a new password and has arrived, but still cannot login. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

[sage-devel] What does it mean for a ticket to be closed?

2013-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
This is mainly a question for Volker: What does it mean for a ticket to be closed as "fixed"? I ask because currently there are 20 tickets which are closed in milestone sage-6.1, but I don't find them on master, nor develop. #14750 is an example of this. The last commit of "develop" and of "ma

[sage-devel] Re: Error building Sage: conway_polynomials-0.4.p0 (reporting as directed)

2013-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
Did you do a full rebuild ("make distclean") after you fixed your initial problems? On Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:08:22 AM UTC, Charles Greathouse wrote: > > I was trying to build Sage for the first time and I ran into some errors. > The first few I could fix (mismatched gcc/g++/gfortran ver

Re: [sage-devel] Re: installing optional spkgs under git

2013-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
There is a list of optional database spkgs that haven't made it into Sage-6 because nobody wanted to pick them up at http://trac.sagemath.org/14962. That would definitely be worthwhile to go over and fix. On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:04:57 AM UTC, John Cremona wrote: > > On 18 December 20

Re: [sage-devel] Re: installing optional spkgs under git

2013-12-19 Thread John Cremona
On 18 December 2013 22:22, Volker Braun wrote: > The "sage -i filename" only works for old-style spkgs. You can put the > tarball in the upstream/ directory, though. Thanks, that works: copy (or link) your local copy of the .tar.bz2 file into upstream/ and then a simple "sage -i package-name" f

[sage-devel] Error building Sage: conway_polynomials-0.4.p0 (reporting as directed)

2013-12-19 Thread Charles Greathouse
I was trying to build Sage for the first time and I ran into some errors. The first few I could fix (mismatched gcc/g++/gfortran versions) but after the initial errors were fixed the installer seemed to be chugging along just fine. About 3-4 hours in the process failed, though, on conway_polynom

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread John Cremona
On 19 December 2013 09:04, maldun wrote: > The fact, that SR is not a field is interesting, the Kronecker delta example > on the ticket shows it quite well. But the problem originates from the fact, > that the Kronecker delta is not a continuous function. The ring of analytic > functions is an Int

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
The fact, that SR is not a field is interesting, the Kronecker delta example on the ticket shows it quite well. But the problem originates from the fact, that the Kronecker delta is not a continuous function. The ring of analytic functions is an Integral domain. Question: Should we define a subs

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
This isn't exactly a question of mathematical correctness, but of usability. Think of users who aren't mathematicians, but engineers or from physics. Most of them even don't know the difference between a polynomial from ZZ or RR. So the goal should be a good default behavior which covers 70-90% o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
This isn't exactly a question of mathematical correctness, but of usability. Think of users who aren't mathematicians, but engineers or from physics. Most of them even don't know the difference between a polynomial from ZZ or RR. So the goal should be a good default behavior which covers 70-90% o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
The fact, that SR is not a field is interesting, the Kronecker delta example on the ticket shows it quite well. But the problem originates from the fact, that the Kronecker delta is not a continuous function. The ring of continuous functions is an Integral domain. Question: Should we define a su

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicPolynomial class

2013-12-19 Thread maldun
The fact, that SR is not a field is interesting, the Kronecker delta example on the ticket shows it quite well. But the problem originates from the fact, that the Kronecker delta is not a continuous function. The ring of continuous functions is an Integral domain. Question: Should we define a su