[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Cygwin

2013-06-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:39:20 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: > > I've built Sage on Cygwin today in a 4GB i386 virtual machine. The plus > side: It builds without any major hitches. Jean-Pierre Flori and others did > a lot of work to clean this up. > > But I'm still unable to consistently ge

[sage-devel] Sage on Cygwin

2013-06-17 Thread Volker Braun
I've built Sage on Cygwin today in a 4GB i386 virtual machine. The plus side: It builds without any major hitches. Jean-Pierre Flori and others did a lot of work to clean this up. But I'm still unable to consistently get the documentation to build, I often get the dreaded "address space needed

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Volker Braun
On Monday, June 17, 2013 2:29:11 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > well, Cygwin is entangled with OS in an intimate way, so it's not > "essentially the same way". > Is it? The newest cygwin doesn't even use the registry any more. Of couse if you need to run services like an ssh server then you

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2013-06-17, Volker Braun wrote: > --=_Part_3022_16440786.1371499844732 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Will cygwin accept a monolithic Sage package that duplicates lots of Cygwin > packages? This is the same question about including Sage into linux > distros, and the an

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Michael, On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 03:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Michael Brickenstein wrote: > Yes, and it even includes Sage ;-). Well, at the moment it's > at position 8 in total number of citations which is not bad, > considering it's age. How do you see this on the current swmath.org site? I couldn't

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Volker Braun
Will cygwin accept a monolithic Sage package that duplicates lots of Cygwin packages? This is the same question about including Sage into linux distros, and the answer is going to be a resounding "of course not". Of course it would be great to make Sage more modular, but its not going to happe

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:49:16 +0100 John Cremona wrote: > I think someone ought to correct their page on Sage which says > > Authors: William Stein; David Joyner; David Kohel; John Cremona; > Eröcal, Burçin > > but it is hard to know what to replace that list other than "cast of > thousands"! W

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2013-06-17, Volker Braun wrote: > --=_Part_2565_268627.1371478847151 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > +1: we should not attempt to introduce any sort of package management on > Windows. In keeping with the Windows user experience we just need to vomit > stuff into the f

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread John Cremona
I think someone ought to correct their page on Sage which says Authors: William Stein; David Joyner; David Kohel; John Cremona; Eröcal, Burçin but it is hard to know what to replace that list other than "cast of thousands"! John On 17 June 2013 19:59, Burcin Erocal wrote: > Hi, > > here is an

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, here is an official announcement for the swMATH project. Cheers, Burcin Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:00:29 +0200 From: Gert-Martin Greuel Subject: swMATH Dear all, I would like you to inform you about a new service on mathematical software, www.swmath.org The databa

[sage-devel] Re: Sqrt simplification

2013-06-17 Thread rjf
Since your belief about what the correct behavior is, is at best arguable, and at worst, wrong, I would not expect it to be "corrected" Sqrt(anything) has TWO values. Choosing one should depend on the choice of square root branch, e.g. assume(sqrt(E)) assuming something about E doesn't say much

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, June 17, 2013 4:20:47 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: > > +1: we should not attempt to introduce any sort of package management on > Windows. In keeping with the Windows user experience we just need to vomit > stuff into the filesystem with a one-click install. Moving Cygwin should be

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Volker Braun
+1: we should not attempt to introduce any sort of package management on Windows. In keeping with the Windows user experience we just need to vomit stuff into the filesystem with a one-click install. Moving Cygwin should be easy, you just need to rewrite the mount points for the new cygwin dir

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:09:40 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > >> > It would be unfortunate if the Sage notebook were to fall to the energy >> > behind SagemathCloud without having some alternate project (like the >> > IPython notebook, perhaps) providing this functionality; Andrey's >> points

[sage-devel] Re: Status of simple server API

2013-06-17 Thread kcrisman
> > > > It would be unfortunate if the Sage notebook were to fall to the energy > > behind SagemathCloud without having some alternate project (like the > > IPython notebook, perhaps) providing this functionality; Andrey's points > > are legitimate. It clearly fills a need, especially as long