Re: [sage-devel] Re: a problem in the new permutation groups code (and a solution ?)

2013-03-25 Thread Benjamin Jones
Big +1 to framework for explicitly instantiating group actions. -- Benjamin Jones benjaminfjo...@gmail.com On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:01 PM, tom d wrote: > Specify the action! By making a group action framework, we would also be > providing the possibility of changing the action to something

[sage-devel] Re: a problem in the new permutation groups code (and a solution ?)

2013-03-25 Thread tom d
oops, here's the code! I keep getting server erros when trying to attach as a file, so I'm just including the text of the code file below: class GroupAction(Parent): def __init__(self, G, S, phi): #phi a group action G\times S \rightarrow S self.phi=phi self.G=G

[sage-devel] Re: a problem in the new permutation groups code (and a solution ?)

2013-03-25 Thread tom d
Specify the action! By making a group action framework, we would also be providing the possibility of changing the action to something contrary to the assumptions of the original developers Yes, in fact I think this is one of the natural reasons for doing an explicit group action framework.

Re: [sage-devel] Problems building docs on sage-5.8.beta4

2013-03-25 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 10/03/2013 01:40, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen a écrit : Building on FreeBSD, the doc creation process freezes after this point: [history_a] loading pickled environment... not yet created [history_a] building [inventory]: targets for 1 source files that are out of date [history_a] updating envir

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question on doc building framework

2013-03-25 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 25/03/2013 17:56, Julien Puydt a écrit : Let's play with the libgap spkg! It compiled well, but didn't fix the issue. Snark on #sagemath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question on doc building framework

2013-03-25 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 25/03/2013 17:18, leif a écrit : Julien Puydt wrote: Hi, I'm making experiments building sage with a mix of spkg / system packages ; things are starting to take shape, and I'm now able to finish the 'build' step. For the 'doc' step, I get a strange behaviour : the doc seems to build correct

[sage-devel] Re: Question on doc building framework

2013-03-25 Thread leif
Julien Puydt wrote: Hi, I'm making experiments building sage with a mix of spkg / system packages ; things are starting to take shape, and I'm now able to finish the 'build' step. For the 'doc' step, I get a strange behaviour : the doc seems to build correctly, but then at some point, it tells

[sage-devel] Re: Some enhancements related to padics

2013-03-25 Thread P Purkayastha
On 03/25/2013 12:27 AM, Xavier Caruso wrote: Le dimanche 24 mars 2013, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : Also: are you aware of http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12555 because your patches should be applied on top of that. I was aware about this ticket but I didn't know that it was positively r

[sage-devel] Question on doc building framework

2013-03-25 Thread Julien Puydt
Hi, I'm making experiments building sage with a mix of spkg / system packages ; things are starting to take shape, and I'm now able to finish the 'build' step. For the 'doc' step, I get a strange behaviour : the doc seems to build correctly, but then at some point, it tells me the build was

[sage-devel] Re: Deprecation or simple removal of code ?

2013-03-25 Thread kcrisman
On Monday, March 25, 2013 9:06:56 AM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: > > Functions that are not imported into the global namespace are by > definition implementation details and don't have to be deprecated if you > change/remove them. > > >> That's not always true; there are certainly things that ha

[sage-devel] slow arithmetic in number fields

2013-03-25 Thread John Cremona
In a current project I have to compute quite a lot of monomial expressions of the form X^i*Y^j*Z^k where i+j+k=39 and X,Y,Z are power series in one variable over a cubic number field. This takes a *very* long time once the coefficients of the intermediate expressions get large. (I tried to optimi

[sage-devel] Re: Deprecation or simple removal of code ?

2013-03-25 Thread Volker Braun
Functions that are not imported into the global namespace are by definition implementation details and don't have to be deprecated if you change/remove them. On Monday, March 25, 2013 2:00:21 PM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14355 > > -- You receive

[sage-devel] Deprecation or simple removal of code ?

2013-03-25 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hellooo everybody ! There's in sage.combinat a module that I hope nobody around uses. Here it is : http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/combinat/sage/combinat/generator.html Vincent noticed in #10534 that itertools was more standard and provided the same features, and that keeping this in S

[sage-devel] Re: a problem in the new permutation groups code (and a solution ?)

2013-03-25 Thread Volker Braun
The group action category stuff would be nice, but you would run into exactly the same question that Dima asked: What are you going to do if there is more than one possible action. You'll have to either use some heuristics (take the simpler / less nested action) or raise some exception telling

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: a problem in the new permutation groups code (and a solution ?)

2013-03-25 Thread Jason B. Hill
Nice catch Dima! This functionality is nice, although I think a competent programmer in Sage/Python realizes that the object (1,2) is a bit too vague/polymorphic. It DOES have a use in at least helping explain the theory though. The following example is a small demonstration. I'm simply using text

Re: [sage-devel] Some enhancements related to padics

2013-03-25 Thread Xavier Caruso
Le dimanche 24 mars 2013, David Roe a écrit : > Sage Days 47 is this upcoming week, working on transitioning Sage to > git. > Julian and I are currently using a github repository to collaborate > on p-adics in Sage (https://github.com/saraedum/sage/tree/Zq).  We'd > be happy to give you permissi

[sage-devel] Re: a problem in the new permutation groups code (and a solution ?)

2013-03-25 Thread tom d
Hm, wouldn't this just be a direct product of the individual group actions? It seems to me that we're expecting the permutations to act according to an 'obvious' group action. Should we also expect 'obvious' actions of things like a dihedral group when given a 2-dimensional vector? Probably