Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage & Pari

2011-07-27 Thread daly
> On Jul 27, 11:58 am, John Cremona wrote: > > My innocent posting to sage-devel on this subject two days ago seems > > to have done something to increase the number of postings this month, > > even if a lot of the discussion has been much wider than the orginal > > title (Sage & Pari) suggests!

[sage-devel] Re: Sage & Pari

2011-07-27 Thread Bill Hart
I cited Pari in a non-peer reviewed article today. Bill. On Jul 27, 11:58 am, John Cremona wrote: > My innocent posting to sage-devel on this subject two days ago seems > to have done something to increase the number of postings this month, > even if a lot of the discussion has been much wider t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage iPhone app

2011-07-27 Thread jason-sage
On 7/25/11 9:36 AM, Ivan Andrus wrote: It doesn't attach pictures since aleph doesn't support pictures, so the app doesn't (yet) support pictures. It will of course though once I get it ported over to using simple-python-db-compute. I just updated the singlecell server to our most current mas

[sage-devel] MAA Mathfest

2011-07-27 Thread Jason Grout
If anyone is going to be at the MAA Mathfest, please respond here. It would be great to get together. As far as I know, we have the following Sage-related things going on: 1. information on a table somewhere (with WeBWorK and other MAA-related things) 2. I'm doing a short (5-minute) present

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > Great idea! Such statistics would also help convince package authors > that Sage provides exposure for their project as well as a separate > (mathematical) test suite, regular build tests on many platforms and > in many cases bug fixes. > >

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:40:02 -0700 William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev > wrote: > > I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a > > talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that > > inclusion of X into Sage wi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 7/27/11 10:08 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: >> >> To get these lists, it seems to me that one can execute the code >> "f(75)" in a profiler, collect used functions, and then look for >> substrings (either modules or particular functions) fr

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Andrey, On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: > I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a > talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that > inclusion of X into Sage will mean that people will stop giving credit > to

[sage-devel] Re: porting sage to OS X 10.7

2011-07-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:06 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage Developers, > To help with porting Sage to OS X 10.7, I bought 10.7, installed it, and > setup a public-facing machine (actually, the old bsd.math.washington.edu) > with OS X 10.7 and *XCode 4.1* installed on it.    If you had an acc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Mike Hansen
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > IIRC, someone (Mike Hansen, I believe) wrote something that would track > pexpect interfaces or something to see what software was being used.  I > cannot find the command name for his function, though. > sage: from sage.misc.citation import

[sage-devel] Re: Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Jason Grout
On 7/27/11 10:08 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: To get these lists, it seems to me that one can execute the code "f(75)" in a profiler, collect used functions, and then look for substrings (either modules or particular functions) from a list that gives matches of substrings to components. This lis

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: > I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a > talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that > inclusion of X into Sage will mean that people will stop giving credit > to X (and this develop

[sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that inclusion of X into Sage will mean that people will stop giving credit to X (and this developer in particular ;-)) Sometime ago there were suggestions to somehow

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage & Pari

2011-07-27 Thread John Cremona
My innocent posting to sage-devel on this subject two days ago seems to have done something to increase the number of postings this month, even if a lot of the discussion has been much wider than the orginal title (Sage & Pari) suggests! John -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel

[sage-devel] Re: Sage & Pari

2011-07-27 Thread Bill Hart
Of course if you code is so dependent on CPU cycles then it is a good candidate for assembly optimisation. After superoprimisation you might hit the theoretical retirement rate of muops in which case you can actually say something about how fast it will run. Integer arithmetic is one such case. In

[sage-devel] Re: Sage & Pari

2011-07-27 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:33:57 AM UTC+1, Bill Hart wrote: > > It's rarely possible to fully > explain a cutoff without reference to the architecture, e.g. > Instruction latency, caching, etc Thats an understatement. The current state of CPUs makes it factually impossible to precisely qua

[sage-devel] Re: Sage & Pari

2011-07-27 Thread Bill Hart
Hi Tim, Let me first say that I am a little embarrassed that you downloaded Flint as a possible example of literate code. Reading my original post I did seem to give that impression. Actually I was merely mentioning it as an example of a documented system, not necessarily literate as such. I did