[sage-devel] Re: toying with various upgrades (numpy,ecl,maxima,gfan,mpfi)

2011-01-27 Thread maldun
If you want I could make the numpy update again. Since most necessary patches of the Bugs we found in #9808 should be merged in 1.5.1 this should be rather easy. regards, Stefan On Jan 27, 2:45 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On Jan 27, 5:30 am, François Bissey > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > so it's that t

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Emil Widmann
I fear this thread is going nowhere. Let's publish one and start with the wiki etc. For development this was published recently http://www.liafa.jussieu.fr/~labbe/Sage/how-to-contribute/ -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an

Re: [sage-devel] Outdated documentation

2011-01-27 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:14:00PM +1100, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eviatar wrote: > > Shouldn't this be deleted? It's Sage 4.3.4. > > > > http://combinat.sagemath.org/doc/reference/index.html > > That part of the Sage website belongs to and managed by the Sage-Combinat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: can sage binaries be stripped (made smaller)

2011-01-27 Thread Dan Drake
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 at 12:41AM +0100, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 01:03:36AM -0800, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > I don't even think we need setuptools--just build extensions inplace > > (there's an option for this) and put devel/sage in the python path > > (this was what I did

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 7:57 pm, Eviatar wrote: > Harald, I think your version is too crowded. The ad should convey > quickly what Sage is. > > You gave some good criticism; here's another version: > > http://tinyurl.com/487hagz I'm so nerdy. But seeing the Mandelbrot set in any orientation other than the

Re: [sage-devel] FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Volker Braun
As for keywords, how about tagging them with the programming language used; Python, Cython, C, C++, Perl, Shell, etc. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options,

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Rob Beezer
On Jan 27, 8:49 am, Niles wrote: > * organize and unify (and document) the various sage options for > building, testing, and startup +1 There are some suggestions at: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10326#comment:9 and a fairly empty ticket at: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticke

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Eviatar
Harald, I think your version is too crowded. The ad should convey quickly what Sage is. You gave some good criticism; here's another version: http://tinyurl.com/487hagz -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Eviatar
Honestly, I can't imagine someone not interested in math contributing to Sage. I'm no mathematician, but I did find things to do. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For mo

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Eviatar
Regarding gradients, some people have said that they didn't want them to have a "vector" feel consistent with Sage design in general. I certainly wouldn't mind you coming up with another design; I'm sure somebody could make a better one. On Jan 27, 9:27 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Thursday, J

Re: [sage-devel] FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:25:53 +0100 "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:49:06AM -0800, Niles wrote: > > Reading the thread about advertising on StackOverflow > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/7b0a47523258cce > > > > I started wondering if

Re: [sage-devel] Re: can sage binaries be stripped (made smaller)

2011-01-27 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 01:03:36AM -0800, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > I don't even think we need setuptools--just build extensions inplace > (there's an option for this) and put devel/sage in the python path > (this was what I did for enabling concurrent execution of distinct > branches, though that s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Advice for "Lazy" Symbolic Evaluation

2011-01-27 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 01:56:53PM -0800, Chris Swierczewski wrote: >Wohoo! I figured it out! Congrats! > I think this experience warrants writing a blog post. Or better a patch adding documentation in the appropriate spot! That's where the next person is going to look for it. Best,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:16:54AM -0800, Harald Schilly wrote: >Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. > > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/marketing/stackoverflow/stackoverflow-sage-schilly-01.png Wow, a beautiful summary of our development process! What about "#

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
Umm... busy? Maybe it would be helpful to compare it to the other logos which have been successful there; I'm imagining it that small, but maybe it will be rather larger than it looks in my browser. On Jan 27, 1:16 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. > >

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Niles
On Jan 27, 12:25 pm, "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: > All of those should be track tickets. And we could choose a new > keyword (like the one we already have for "beginner" patches) for > those tickets that require advanced computer science skills but not so > much mathematics. Then of course a sea

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Harald Schilly
Here is my idea, svg sources are in the same dir. http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/marketing/stackoverflow/stackoverflow-sage-schilly-01.png H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubsc

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:47:29 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > > >http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z > I fear there is too much on this ad and it's too unorganized. You need to introduce more symmetry, maybe gradients, golden ratio and all that. The font is not so important as long it's readable.

Re: [sage-devel] FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:49:06AM -0800, Niles wrote: > Reading the thread about advertising on StackOverflow > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/7b0a47523258cce > > I started wondering if there are specific suggestions for how a > programmer who isn't necessarily

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-marketing] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 17:20, Niles wrote: > Could > someone with control over the website set up a page like > http://sagemath.org/development-programmer.html which, for now, would > redirect to development.html, but could be modified later, once we > have some content specific to programmers?

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Emil Widmann
Rework sage build scripts, so that everything is built "in place", maybe using setuptools, and thus achieve significant size reduction of sage build. as discussed here http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/7d911e59a649eaf6/b90132bf3aefcd1f For web-devs: Does Sage has a ni

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Niles
On Jan 27, 11:42 am, Emil Widmann wrote: > > I like ALL of Eviatars designs very much, though I would vote for the > 2nd. I think most important is to get them out "in the wild" soonest, > so please Eviatar publish. (I guess Link can be optimised later) Agreed -- some of the other designs ther

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 11:42 am, Emil Widmann wrote: > > This is probably the best choice of the options available.  Could > > someone with control over the website set up a page > > likehttp://sagemath.org/development-programmer.htmlwhich, for now, would > > redirect to development.html, but could be modi

[sage-devel] FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-01-27 Thread Niles
Reading the thread about advertising on StackOverflow http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/7b0a47523258cce I started wondering if there are specific suggestions for how a programmer who isn't necessarily a mathematician could contribute to sage. To get started, here are

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Emil Widmann
> This is probably the best choice of the options available.  Could > someone with control over the website set up a page > likehttp://sagemath.org/development-programmer.htmlwhich, for now, would > redirect to development.html, but could be modified later, once we > have some content specific

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Niles
On Jan 26, 9:40 pm, Eviatar wrote: > Maybe linking to this page:http://sagemath.org/development.html, or > the main page would be adequate? This is probably the best choice of the options available. Could someone with control over the website set up a page like http://sagemath.org/development

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 01/27/11 01:47 PM, kcrisman wrote: On Jan 27, 4:44 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: On 01/27/11 02:21 AM, Eviatar wrote: I changed the bottom text: http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z Would it not be better if the image had the colouration that is usually given which indicates the number of iter

[sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 4:44 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 01/27/11 02:21 AM, Eviatar wrote: > > > I changed the bottom text: > > >http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z > > Would it not be better if the image had the colouration that is usually given > which indicates the number of iterations before the point rema

[sage-devel] Re: toying with various upgrades (numpy,ecl,maxima,gfan,mpfi)

2011-01-27 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 27, 5:30 am, François Bissey wrote: > Hi all, > > so it's that time again where I look at how "easy" it would be to update > various pieces of sage to the latest upstream. The tests were performed > on a linux machine running in 64 bit (amd64) based on 4.6.2.alpha2. > > Harmless and easy

[sage-devel] toying with various upgrades (numpy,ecl,maxima,gfan,mpfi)

2011-01-27 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, so it's that time again where I look at how "easy" it would be to update various pieces of sage to the latest upstream. The tests were performed on a linux machine running in 64 bit (amd64) based on 4.6.2.alpha2. numpy-1.5.1: upgrade quite nicely, just two doctests broken by a new warning

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Free advertising on Stack Overflow

2011-01-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 01/27/11 02:21 AM, Eviatar wrote: I changed the bottom text: http://tinyurl.com/68e5n6z Would it not be better if the image had the colouration that is usually given which indicates the number of iterations before the point remains bounded? It is much more ascetically pleasing to show th