[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [WR #2158917] Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2011-01-03 Thread rjf
On Jan 2, 2:14 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > ... > Sometimes Richard can be helpful, and obviously knows quite a bit about > mathematical software. But for reasons known only to Richard, he devotes a > large > proportion of his time being negative, unhelpful and generally obnoxious. > It's

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [WR #2158917] Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2011-01-03 Thread rjf
On Jan 2, 2:14 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > http://www.math.bme.hu/~jtoth/FelsMma/mma.review.pdf > > but it is one of the most negative, biased "papers" I've ever seen. Could you be more specific? Is there a particular statement that you believe to be false? After all, that paper was review

Re: [sage-devel] sagemath.org 2010 stats

2011-01-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Monday, January 3, 2011 11:28:16 PM UTC+1, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > That corresponds to 17,000 visits from London ... I Perhaps it's just the > size of the > city + the number of universities here? > Maybe London is the City plus the surroundings? Anyhow, I pulled out the "service provider

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread François Bissey
> I don't understand your point. If you have a 64-bit kernel but 32-bit > userspace then you can't just build a 64-bit Sage. Despite our worst > attempts we are still not shipping with glibc, ncurses, zlib, freetype, ... > > My system, on the other hand, is multilib and I think I have all necessar

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Volker Braun
I don't understand your point. If you have a 64-bit kernel but 32-bit userspace then you can't just build a 64-bit Sage. Despite our worst attempts we are still not shipping with glibc, ncurses, zlib, freetype, ... My system, on the other hand, is multilib and I think I have all necessary libra

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread François Bissey
> As far as I know, there is no better way than to look at the binaries (e.g. > "file $SAGE_LOCAL/bin/python"). That said, I think you are incorrectly > assuming that SAGE64 corresponds to the architecture. In fact, > > SAGE64=yes forces 64-bit build > SAGE64=no does not force 64-bit, and will

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Volker Braun
As far as I know, there is no better way than to look at the binaries (e.g. "file $SAGE_LOCAL/bin/python"). That said, I think you are incorrectly assuming that SAGE64 corresponds to the architecture. In fact, SAGE64=yes forces 64-bit build SAGE64=no does not force 64-bit, and will build what

Re: [sage-devel] sagemath.org 2010 stats

2011-01-03 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, thanks Harald for this update. > And for curiosity, top cities across the whole world (100%): > 1. London 1.4% That corresponds to 17,000 visits from London (Google won't give me the number of unique visitors per city). I'm quite surprised by this: I know of no university in London which a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: English version of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2011-01-03 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:02:02 +0100 "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: > Hi Rob! > > On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:37:48PM -0800, Rob Beezer wrote: > > Its good to see all the interest in an English version. I think it > > would be an incredibly worthwhile project. > > +1 > I do also bel

[sage-devel] sagemath.org 2010 stats

2011-01-03 Thread Harald Schilly
Hello, I thought it might interest you to see some website statistics of 2010: Visits: 1,030,456 ... +32% from last year. Best month November, with nearly 100,000 visits. Unique Visitors (this is the number from above minus the ones who come back) 607,882 ... +34 % from last year. So, more than

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Eviatar
Thank you, but this has to happen from the bash script "sage", so this doesn't work. Is there a specific file that would signal it was built for 64-bit? Thanks in advance. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sag

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Volker Braun
I must confess that I don't understand the need for SAGE64. I believe it was added as a workaround for breakage in the OSX toolchain. But I think the morally right way to check for what Sage was built with is sage: import platform sage: platform.architecture() ('64bit', 'ELF') which will return

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Eviatar
This may be a bit unrelated, but is the SAGE64 flag present on all platforms, and can it be checked to exist on a binary install? If not, is there another way to check if Sage was built for 64-bit? I'm asking this because I'm working on an OS architecture check patch, and this would require checkin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Request to review Sagemath Beginners Guide

2011-01-03 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Hugh, hi Eviatar! On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 03:41:36PM -0700, Hugh Thomas wrote: > I began work on translating the combinatorics chapter of the French > book last summer, after Nicholas Thiéry asked if anyone might be > interested in doing so. (I then got busy with other things and > hav

Re: [sage-devel] Re: English version of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2011-01-03 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Rob! On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:37:48PM -0800, Rob Beezer wrote: > Its good to see all the interest in an English version. I think it > would be an incredibly worthwhile project. +1 > If folks want to do a freely licensed English translation, I am > definitely interested. Cool! > A

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2011-01-01 07:53, William Stein wrote: > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10542 Looks like a duplicate of #10303 to me. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE64

2011-01-03 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:53 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: >> Hi, all, >> When I run, say, 4.6, I get this printout prior to the sage banner: >> Detected SAGE64 flag >> Building Sage on OS X in 64-bit mode >> Is this necessary? There's no build un

[sage-devel] Reviewer needed for #9163 (expect.py)

2011-01-03 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Blocker ticket #9163 (Doctest error in expect.py on Cygwin and OS X) still needs review before sage-4.6.1 can be released. Can somebody have a look? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@goo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: English version of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2011-01-03 Thread François Bissey
> On Jan 2, 10:11 pm, Eviatar wrote: > > Sorry for bumping, but is there any news on this? I would be willing > > to assist with the translation aspects. > > Don't say sorry! Thanks for the bump, as I had totally missed about > half this thread, since I was doing some other things about the time

[sage-devel] Re: English version of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2011-01-03 Thread Eviatar
Thank you Rob, Feel free to contact me if you do take it up. I can assist with the linguistic aspects but most probably not the technical. Cheers! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@goog

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [WR #2158917] Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2011-01-03 Thread Eviatar
"> I don't know if you have ever seen Richard's review of Mathematica: > > http://www.math.bme.hu/~jtoth/FelsMma/mma.review.pdf > > but it is one of the most negative, biased "papers" I've ever seen. I'd like > to > know if some of his criticisms are true or not, but the paper is so biased, > tha