On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:10 PM, William Stein wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM, N. J. A. Sloane
> wrote:
>> Announcement, Nov 17 2010: New Version of OEIS!
>> ===
>>
>> After 2 years of struggle, there is a new version of the
>> On-Line Encycl
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM, N. J. A. Sloane wrote:
> Announcement, Nov 17 2010: New Version of OEIS!
> ===
>
> After 2 years of struggle, there is a new version of the
> On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (the OEIS).
> There are two parts: th
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Tom Boothby wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
>> On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version is no longer
>>> available, that's not an option.
>>
>>> -Don
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison wrote:
>
>> A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version is no longer
>> available, that's not an option.
>
>> -Don
>
> That would be true if the license was legally enforceable, wh
Surely they are about to sign an exclusive deal with Apple to have all
its
http://oeis.org/play
content available via iTunes Store...
On Nov 26, 12:11 pm, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison wrote:
>
> > A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version
On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison wrote:
> A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version is no longer
> available, that's not an option.
> -Don
That would be true if the license was legally enforceable, which I
very much doubt it is.
Dave
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Donald Alan Morrison
wrote:
> On Nov 25, 5:24 pm, Tom Boothby wrote:
>> Two technical solutions:
>>
>> 1) have 'make' download the database.
>> 2) Before we make each release, dump a few gigabytes onto the OEIS
>> wiki, such that what we distribute is well under 5
On Nov 25, 5:24 pm, Tom Boothby wrote:
> Two technical solutions:
>
> 1) have 'make' download the database.
> 2) Before we make each release, dump a few gigabytes onto the OEIS
> wiki, such that what we distribute is well under 5% of their
> "aggregate content". (tongue firmly in cheek)
Tom: Not
On Nov 25, 5:19 pm, David Joyner wrote:
>[...]
> (b) Even if he does own copyright (and I'm not saying he does), since it is
> free data and no one makes any money from it, if someone did redistribute the
> data which is already freely available, how can he prove that any
> damage occurred?
>[..
Two technical solutions:
1) have 'make' download the database.
2) Before we make each release, dump a few gigabytes onto the OEIS
wiki, such that what we distribute is well under 5% of their
"aggregate content". (tongue firmly in cheek)
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM, William Stein wrote:
> I encourage people to read the terms here
> http://oeis.org/wiki/The_OEIS_End-User_License_Agreement to make sure
> I'm not misunderstanding them. And if you're the sort of person (like
> me), who has contributed to OEIS, to think twice be
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:15 PM, William Stein wrote:
...
> Hi,
>
...
>
> http://oeis.org/wiki/The_OEIS_End-User_License_Agreement
>
>
> I think this is a very, very sad direction for OEIS to have gone in,
> with Sloane passing it off under such terms. It's really a shame.
> Wikipedia has pr
On Nov 25, 4:02 pm, Rob Beezer wrote:
> On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison
> wrote:
>
> > "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another
> > interesting topic source you mentioned. It is very nice that it's
> > free to view. I'm surprised that it's just scanned ima
On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison
wrote:
> "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another
> interesting topic source you mentioned. It is very nice that it's
> free to view. I'm surprised that it's just scanned imagessomeone
> could have run it through OCR, the
On Nov 25, 12:15 pm, William Stein wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Mike Hansen wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:43 AM, ulfarsson wrote:
> >> the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates
> >> to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For e
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 at 12:15PM -0800, William Stein wrote:
> Unfortunately, I looked at the new OEIS end user license. Very, very
> sadly, redistributing the above file is a blatant violation of these
> terms (see Section 2, number 2). So Mike, please remove it at some
> point so I don't get into
Hi RegB,
thanks for extremly valuable feedback!
> Thanks,
> A correction to the failure to evaluate.
> On a "FRESH" system, such as a windoze user might try this on.
> When sage is started a pop up requester appears asking for a new
> password, but it is quickly overwritten by the browser image,
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM, William Stein wrote:
> Unfortunately, I looked at the new OEIS end user license. Very, very
> sadly, redistributing the above file is a blatant violation of these
> terms (see Section 2, number 2). So Mike, please remove it at some
> point so I don't get into tro
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Mike Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:43 AM, ulfarsson wrote:
>> the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates
>> to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For example
>>
>> sloane_find([1,2,3,4,5,6])
>>
>> does no
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:40 PM, John Cremona wrote:
> I never use these canonical embeddings, and cannot think of a reason
> for defining one field twice in this way...
>
> Now this would be more useful:
>
> sage: K. = NumberField(x^2+3)
> sage: L. = NumberField(x^2+x+1)
> sage: K.has_coerce_map_
On 25 Nov., 17:04, Simon King wrote:
> Well, let's see what debugging reveals.
Got it!
In NumberField_absolute._coerce_map_from_, an
EmbeddedNumberFieldMorphism is constructed. The optional argument
(namely the ambient field) is constructed, but it was forgotten to
pass it as an optional argumen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:43 AM, ulfarsson wrote:
> the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates
> to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For example
>
> sloane_find([1,2,3,4,5,6])
>
> does not find anything in the database.
This is http://trac.sagemath
Thanks,
A correction to the failure to evaluate.
On a "FRESH" system, such as a windoze user might try this on.
When sage is started a pop up requester appears asking for a new
password, but it is quickly overwritten by the browser image, so
it can be easily missed by someone not looking/waiting fo
Thanks,
A correction to the failure to evaluate.
On a "FRESH" system, such as a windoze user might try this on.
When sage is started a pop up requester appears asking for a new
password, but it is quickly overwritten by the browser image, so
it can be easily missed by someone not looking/waiting fo
OK, I found the lack of evaluation on .
On a "FRESH" system when sage notebook() is entered
on the terminal screen a requester pops up asking for
a new password and VERY SOON after that
the browser window overlays it.
It is easy to miss the new password requester,
obviously I did on Friday.
Newbies
> This is great news, though I too wonder whether having to reboot and
> fiddling with things at a low level would worry some potential users
It may, but to install software and have to reboot then was quite
common when I used windows.
I also agree that fidling with things low level is not for th
Hi Luis!
On 25 Nov., 15:43, luisfe wrote:
> I might be wrong, since coercion still looks "magic" like me. But it
> seems that before trying pushout of the objects, Sage tries
> L1.coerce_map_from(L2)
That's correct, and in fact this is where things go boom.
> The infinite bucle looks related wi
On Nov 25, 7:43 am, ulfarsson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates
> to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For example
>
> sloane_find([1,2,3,4,5,6])
>
> does not find anything in the database. The oies has also taken down
> t
Hi,
the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates
to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For example
sloane_find([1,2,3,4,5,6])
does not find anything in the database. The oies has also taken down
the stripped version of their database at http://oeis.or
> I think the comments were perfectly appropriate and valid, because I
> didn't really stated what method I use.
> And I think the worries about breaking an existing system are serious
> concerns.
> I am just 1 person and it worked for me (on 2 different machines now).
> My opinion is that this is
> Emil,
> I am the ABSOLUTE NOVICE here, so wherever is deemed appropriate
> to hold it is fine with me.
> If there is a sage-pre-alpha-test discussion group that would probably
> be most appropriate (-:
I think it is a different matter. It is not about pre-alpha. Because
sage -testall
passes on t
Hi Simon,
On 25 nov, 13:53, Simon King wrote:
> Now I'm puzzled where the ERROR comes from.
I might be wrong, since coercion still looks "magic" like me. But it
seems that before trying pushout of the objects, Sage tries
L1.coerce_map_from(L2)
Now, it seems that, whenever BOTH fields have an em
Emil,
I am the ABSOLUTE NOVICE here, so wherever is deemed appropriate
to hold it is fine with me.
If there is a sage-pre-alpha-test discussion group that would probably
be most appropriate (-:
By the way, I do TRUST Virtual Box. (VMware player ?, not so much)
It has provided very good isolation o
On 21 November 2010 16:05, tuxiano wrote:
> I'm not an expert of the matter, but I'm the user who made the comment
> and I'd like to add that I don't have problems with sites that use
> port 8080 while I can't connect to sites that use port 8000, for
> example I can't connect to
>
> http://t2nb.ma
Hi Luis,
On 25 Nov., 14:01, luisfe wrote:
> mmm, with a clean sage 4.6 I get
>
> sage: pushout(L1,L2)
> Exception RuntimeError: 'maximum recursion depth exceeded while
> calling a Python object' in ignored
> ...
> RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded
>
> I will try with patch #8800
No
On Nov 25, 1:53 pm, Simon King wrote:
> Hi Luis,
>
> With merging as I proposed in my previous post, one gets
>
> sage: K. = NumberField(x^4-2)
> sage: L1. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = r4**2)
> sage: L2. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = -r4**2)
> sage: from sage.categories.pushout import pus
Hi Luis,
With merging as I proposed in my previous post, one gets
sage: K. = NumberField(x^4-2)
sage: L1. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = r4**2)
sage: L2. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = -r4**2)
sage: from sage.categories.pushout import pushout
sage: pushout(L1,L2)
Number Field in r4 with defin
Hi John,
On 25 Nov., 12:45, John Cremona wrote:
> I think I am out of my depth already, but I just wanted to make sure
> that you knew of the composite_fields() method for number fields. In
> Luis's example, you can do all of L1.composite_fields(K),
> L2.composite_fields(K), K.composite_fields(
I think I am out of my depth already, but I just wanted to make sure
that you knew of the composite_fields() method for number fields. In
Luis's example, you can do all of L1.composite_fields(K),
L2.composite_fields(K), K.composite_fields(L1),
K.composite_fields(L2), in each case it reurns a list
Hi Luis,
On 25 Nov., 11:45, luisfe wrote:
> As long as you construct L1 with a specified embedding to K, from a
> user point of view you are stating "I am working on this subfield L1
> of K, but I want a subfield representation in terms of powers of
> r2_1". In that sense yes, K would be canónica
On Nov 25, 11:27 am, Simon King wrote:
> Hi Luis!
>
> On 25 Nov., 10:34, luisfe wrote:
>
> > Suppose the following:
>
> > sage: K. = NumberField(x^4-2)
> > sage: L1. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = r4**2)
> > sage: L2. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = -r4**2)
> > sage: K.has_coerce_map_from(L1)
Hi Luis!
On 25 Nov., 10:34, luisfe wrote:
> Suppose the following:
>
> sage: K. = NumberField(x^4-2)
> sage: L1. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = r4**2)
> sage: L2. = NumberField(x^2-2, embedding = -r4**2)
> sage: K.has_coerce_map_from(L1)
> True
> sage: K.has_coerce_map_from(L2)
> True
> sage: L
Hi John!
On 25 Nov., 10:30, John Cremona wrote:
> Surely a number field + embedding is a richer structure than an
> abstract number field, so the coercion should go from the former to
> the latter as a forgetful functor.
To the contrary, it seems to me that a coercion should go from the
poorer s
On Nov 24, 10:34 pm, Simon King wrote:
> Hi!
>
> When defining a number field, it is optional to provide a canonical
> embedding into the real lazy field.
>
> If two number fields are defined by the same polynomial and the same
> generator name, they are still considered different, if only one of
Despite my earlier comment I am not proposing automatic coercion
between isomorphic number fields since there is (often, not always!)
more than one isomorphism.
Surely a number field + embedding is a richer structure than an
abstract number field, so the coercion should go from the former to
the l
Hello RegB,
thank you for testing!
On Nov 25, 5:05 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> The .exe version appeared to install and detect my grub loader, which
> I was told to edit a file for. I was "paperless" at the time, so
> didn't write
> anything down. I wasn't remembering the sp
It's at #10318 with a positive review already!
John
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
> That's a typo (almost certainly mine) and should be changed. Thanks.
>
> On Nov 24, 2010 3:17 AM, "John Cremona" wrote:
>
> In reviewing #8807 I spotted what looked like a typo:
> "Com
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