Emil,
I am the ABSOLUTE NOVICE here, so wherever is deemed appropriate
to hold it is fine with me.
If there is a sage-pre-alpha-test discussion group that would probably
be most appropriate (-:

By the way, I do TRUST Virtual Box. (VMware player ?, not so much)
It has provided very good isolation of UBUNTU virtual machines under
Windows Vista
and I have been able to build Sage from source within one.
It just needs enough memory, I am using 2900 or so meg and Vista
isn't running TOO badly.

My keyboard is generic USA, locale settings USA, std defaults.

My comment about MBR corruption was inappropriate at best.

On Nov 25, 4:29 am, emil <emil.widm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello RegB,
>
> thank you for testing!
>
> On Nov 25, 5:05 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > The .exe version appeared to install and detect my grub loader, which
> > I was told to edit a file for.  I was "paperless" at the time, so
> > didn't write
> > anything down.  I wasn't remembering the specific instructions the
> > next time I booted.
>
> About the editing a file: this happens if you already have grub
> installed as your bootloader.
> In this case it is easier to add the system to your existing menu.lst
> file. But that just involves to copy the lines
>
> title Sage Live
> find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Sage Live 511.46/initrd.gz
> kernel /Sage Live 511.46/vmlinuz psubdir="Sage Live 511.46"
> initrd /Sage Live 511.46/initrd.gz
>
> into it.
>
>
>
> > The .iso file booted OK from a CD and the browser came up fine.
> > The notebook APPEARED to connect to port 8000, but <shift enter>
> > didn't
> > cause the cells to be evaluated.
>
> About the browser not evaluating with shift-enter - this is completely
> new to me, it had always worked so far. What are your keyboard
> setting? [Menu]->[Desktop]->[Country Settings]
>
> A small quirk of the "notebook Icon" is, that the browser starts some
> (i think 6) seconds after the sage server, so eventually if the sager
> server is to slow to start up you will get a "page not found" error.
> In that case just hit the "Reload" button.
>
>
>
> > I hope to have more time to put to it tomorrow - in the mean time, I
> > agree
> > it could pose reputation risk if folks get their MBR corrupted, or
> > similar.
>
> Hm, it is a missconception that the programm alters the mbr, that is
> exactly not what the programm does  (thats why it stopped in your case
> and you have to edit your grub menu.lst by hand).
>
> If there is the original Windows bootloader than it just adds the
> entry to that bootloader (thats what I mean with: "hooks in"). In
> Windows XP it will create an entry in the file boot.ini.
> it will look like (example)
>
> [boot loader]
>
> timeout=5
>
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
>
> [operating systems]
>
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
> Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>
> c:\grldr="Start Sage Live"
>
> in Windows 7 the following commands are executed:
>
> bcdedit /export "C:\BCD Backup"
>    (backs up the BCD, for safety)
>
> bcdedit /create /d "Start Puppy Linux" /application bootsector
>    (Adds the puppy entry)
> This command returns an ID, The installer gets the ID.
>
> bcdedit /set {ID} device "partition=C:"
> bcdedit /set {ID} path \grldr.mbr
>
> bcdedit /displayorder {Insert ID here} /addlast
>   (adds it to the menu)
>
> bcdedit /timeout 10
>   (sets the timeout to 10 seconds)
>
> So there is not really something *very* dangerous happening in the
> code. NO repartitioning and NO messing with the mbr.
>
> The grub is installed "after" the windows bootloader, so if you add
> entries to the menu.lst you get a second boot menu.
>
> In fact this can be used to very easily have several versions of the
> system running. Just make a new folder and copy the files over. You
> could make a "Sage Live Dev" Folder. And do your experimental work in
> it. Or if the next version comes out, and you can spare 600 MB of
> diskspace, keep the old sage version on the computer (its just +1
> folder).
>
> Do you want to move this discussion over to sage-windows or do you
> want to discuss it here on sage-devel?
>
> kind regards,
> emil
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 12:41 pm, David Kirkby <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:

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