[sage-devel] Re: finding arclength around a circle hangs maxima

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Grout
ma...@mendelu.cz wrote: > > > On 17 říj, 00:40, Robert Dodier wrote: >> On Oct 16, 2:23 pm, Jason Grout wrote: >> >>> I'm not on their list. I hope Robert Dodier or someone else sees this. >> Probably it's best to submit Maxima bugs to the bug >> tracker.http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=b

[sage-devel] Re: sage script / worksheet integration

2009-10-26 Thread Pat LeSmithe
On 10/25/2009 05:50 AM, zeliboba wrote: > great! what is "live doc converter" btw? See docHTMLProcessor.py in $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/python/site-packages/sagenb/notebook/ Also, look at twist.py's WorksheetFile.render(), which uses the processor to convert a static HTML doc page into an editable w

[sage-devel] Re: sys.path does not take in python's library

2009-10-26 Thread Raamesh Deshpande
Thanks! It worked :) Raamesh On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Raamesh wrote: >>Can >> somebody me in getting sage use the library I want it to use. >> >> # would not listen to take in my python networkx >> sys.path.append('/soft/python-2.

[sage-devel] Re: sys.path does not take in python's library

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Raamesh wrote: >Can > somebody me in getting sage use the library I want it to use. > > # would not listen to take in my python networkx > sys.path.append('/soft/python-2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ > networkx-0.99-py2.6.egg') > import networkx as nx > G = nx.G

[sage-devel] Sgae 4.1.2, installation problem (R).

2009-10-26 Thread Thierry Dumont
The installation of Sage 4.1.2 fails on my system: -system: debian lenny amd 64. -problem: As building R: /usr/local/sage-4.1.2/spkg/build/r-2.9.2/src/bin/exec/R: /usr/local/sage-4.1.2/local/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.0.3/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:03 PM, kcrisman wrote: >> Yep. Is anyone against a prohibition of spkg upgrades and major re- >> factoring for small point releases? > > I would point out that sometimes minor bugfixes require spkg > upgrades. For instance, sometimes to "properly" fix even tiny > problems w

[sage-devel] Re: Problems on OpenSolaris

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I *finally* got my new Ultra 27 today, which is quite a nice machine in fact > > * Quad core 3.333 GHz Xeon > * 12 GB RAM > * 2 x 2 TB + 1 x 500 GB disks > * NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800 graphics accelerator > > It came with Solaris 10, but I

[sage-devel] Re: PIL -- new python imaging library

2009-10-26 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
I did not know of the existence of the `jpeg-6b.p0.spkg`, so I made that one. Anyawys, libjpeg-7.p0.spkg is more up-to-date than the previous. I know not of any votes. - Tim Joseph Dumol On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Georg S. Weber wrote: > > On 26 Okt., 14:06, Tim Joseph Dumol wrote: > >

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread kcrisman
> Yep. Is anyone against a prohibition of spkg upgrades and major re- > factoring for small point releases? I would point out that sometimes minor bugfixes require spkg upgrades. For instance, sometimes to "properly" fix even tiny problems with symbolics really requires a change to the pynac pa

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Oct 26, 6:15 pm, Pat LeSmithe wrote: > On 10/26/2009 05:16 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > On Oct 26, 4:52 pm, William Stein wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, John H Palmieri > >> wrote: > > Why do we do *anything* with Sphinx after cloning?  Shouldn't we just > copy e

[sage-devel] Problems on OpenSolaris

2009-10-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I *finally* got my new Ultra 27 today, which is quite a nice machine in fact * Quad core 3.333 GHz Xeon * 12 GB RAM * 2 x 2 TB + 1 x 500 GB disks * NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800 graphics accelerator It came with Solaris 10, but I stuck OpenSolaris 06/2009 on it soon after it came. It's certainly quick

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Maurizio wrote: > My answer to William Stein's question is double: first of all, I think > that sometimes people less involved than being active developers can > give suggestions from another perspective, and I hope that those are > not considered useless simply becau

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread Pat LeSmithe
On 10/26/2009 05:16 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > On Oct 26, 4:52 pm, William Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, John H Palmieri >> wrote: >> Why do we do *anything* with Sphinx after cloning? Shouldn't we just copy everything over? >> >>> Because if we just copy everyth

[sage-devel] Re: "help()" in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Oct 26, 4:50 pm, William Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:37 PM, John H Palmieri >> wrote: >> >> >> > Trac ticket #6820 (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6820) >> > makes the following change: >> >> >    sage: hel

[sage-devel] Re: "help()" in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Oct 26, 4:50 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:37 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > Trac ticket #6820 (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6820) > > makes the following change: > > >    sage: help() > > > no longer runs the interactive Python help utility.  Instea

[sage-devel] sys.path does not take in python's library

2009-10-26 Thread Raamesh
Hi, I am facing a problem of not able to use python's library. The local python has a higher version of networkx library than the sage (I suppose. python does not give the error). The sage is not calling the local python networkx even if I add networkx library to sys.path. Can somebody me in gett

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Oct 26, 4:52 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > >> Why do we do *anything* with Sphinx after cloning?  Shouldn't we just > >> copy everything over? > > > Because if we just copy everything over, > > Sphinx gets confused (for > > reasons I

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Oct 26, 3:54 pm, William Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, John H Palmieri >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > With Sage 4.2 on my machine running OS X 10.6, when I clone, I get >> > this: >> >> > Updating modification times

[sage-devel] Re: "help()" in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:37 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Trac ticket #6820 (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6820) > makes the following change: > >    sage: help() > > no longer runs the interactive Python help utility.  Instead, it > prints a message: > >    sage: help() >    Welcom

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Oct 26, 3:54 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > > With Sage 4.2 on my machine running OS X 10.6, when I clone, I get > > this: > > > Updating modification times for the documentation... > > sage -docbuild --update-mtimes reference h

[sage-devel] "help()" in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
Trac ticket #6820 (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6820) makes the following change: sage: help() no longer runs the interactive Python help utility. Instead, it prints a message: sage: help() Welcome to Sage 4.2! To view the Sage tutorial in your web browser, type '

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > With Sage 4.2 on my machine running OS X 10.6, when I clone, I get > this: > > Updating modification times for the documentation... > sage -docbuild --update-mtimes reference html > sphinx-build -b html -d /Applications/sage/devel/sage/d

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread Georg S. Weber
Hi, cloning in Sage-4.2 sometimes does take a long time. I'm using OS X 10.4 on an Intel Mac. I remember Ctrl-C'ing several times to interrupt this on several occasions, but I am not sure whether it really did hang, or whether I was too impatient. Cheers, Georg --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Maurizio
My answer to William Stein's question is double: first of all, I think that sometimes people less involved than being active developers can give suggestions from another perspective, and I hope that those are not considered useless simply because they are given from people which are not contributi

[sage-devel] Re: Categories review: algebra_modules.py, monoid_algebras.py and groupoids.py

2009-10-26 Thread David Kohel
Hi Nicolas, If I understand what existed and what is proposed, then I vote for the category Groupoids() and no arguments. A standard definition of a groupoid in category theory is a category in which every morphism is an isomorphism. Thus it is possible that this was intended as a constructor fo

[sage-devel] bug in cloning? (updating modification times for the documentation)

2009-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
With Sage 4.2 on my machine running OS X 10.6, when I clone, I get this: Updating modification times for the documentation... sage -docbuild --update-mtimes reference html sphinx-build -b html -d /Applications/sage/devel/sage/doc/output/ doctrees/en/reference/Applications/sage/devel/sage/doc/

[sage-devel] Re: PIL -- new python imaging library

2009-10-26 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 26 Okt., 14:06, Tim Joseph Dumol wrote: > I believe you may need to install this libjpeg spkg, and then reinstall pil: > > {{{ > > $ sage -fhttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/timdumol/libjpeg-7.p0.spkg > $ sage -fhttp://sagemath.org/packages/optional/pil-1.1.6.spkg > > }}} > > Hopefully that

[sage-devel] Re: new virtualbox image!

2009-10-26 Thread madison.mich...@gmail.com
William, The binary works on my older XP machine. I will post the spect's below. One glich the Virtual Machine pauses on start up saying there is not enough memory. I then go up the the machine menu and hit resume it retarts fine and runs Sage. This is the first time on my old XP machine I ha

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 26 Okt., 19:22, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder why everybody (*) making suggestions has never put together a > single Sage release themselves, yet everybody who has done significant > work putting together Sage releases, organizing the web page, mirror > binaries, etc., has completely

[sage-devel] Re: Tests, forget and trac 7084, perhaps nother bug?

2009-10-26 Thread kcrisman
> > * If I enter the commands from test section in > >         sage: var('m') >         m >         sage: assume(n, 'integer'); assume(m, 'integer') > > into Sage session (4.2), then Sage hangs. I have to enter also var > ('n') to continue in Sage notebook without hanging. However, if I > run ./sa

[sage-devel] Symbolics as category on trac?

2009-10-26 Thread kcrisman
Dear list, I can't find this option any more. But we still have tickets related to symbolic issues. Has it been renamed? Thanks, kcrisman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, sen

[sage-devel] Re: ECL related tickets needing review

2009-10-26 Thread Nils Bruin
On Oct 26, 11:49 am, kcrisman wrote: > This could be wonderful news!  Have you done any experimentation thus > far comparing timings on Maxima-lib (with the not-yet-submitted code) > versus Maxima pexpect?  Say, for integrate(x^3+5*sin(x),x) or > something.  I remember threads from long ago on t

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Nick Alexander
On 26-Oct-09, at 11:22 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > I wonder why everybody (*) making suggestions has never put together a > single Sage release themselves, yet everybody who has done significant > work putting together Sage releases, organizing the web page, mirror > binaries, etc., has

[sage-devel] Re: A plot may have several branchs

2009-10-26 Thread kcrisman
Dear Francois, Some of the same ideas may already be in http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6035 (the detect_poles option to plot), I believe. However, there is always room for improvement too - see http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3985 . It would also be great to see how to i

[sage-devel] Notebook interface

2009-10-26 Thread Amoss
I recently received my invite to Google Wave and had a play with the service. I see several public Waves discussing integrating Sage with Wave, and a couple of threads on this list (one from July about decoupling the notebook server and a recent one talking about Integration more generally). I was

[sage-devel] Re: ECL related tickets needing review

2009-10-26 Thread kcrisman
On Oct 26, 12:51 am, Nils Bruin wrote: > First, > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6781 > > now has a reviewable patch attached to it. This ticket deals with > adding ECL as a library to Python. > Since LISP and Python are actually rather closely related in how they > view data, one

[sage-devel] A plot may have several branchs

2009-10-26 Thread Francois Maltey
Hello, I test the plot command, decode the plot.py file and also follow the patch #6878. So I understand that a plot is one line between points. The exclude option seems to cut this lines at each break point after the computation. Of corse a continuous plot is a such line. But the plot result

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread kcrisman
I agree with Rob B. that it would be useful to have ONE (so as not to suffer from option paralysis!) slightly less feature-rich choice that has been proved to be stable for sysadmins to put up. +1 to that. Here's why: In my experience, nothing kills use of Sage in a classroom setting more than s

[sage-devel] Re: Coercion...

2009-10-26 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Florent, Robert, On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 06:56:39PM +0100, Florent hivert wrote: > I'm having trouble with coercion in sage 4.2... > The following (reduced) example works with sage 4.1.2 and breaks with sage > 4.2. Here is the error: > > File "", line 1, in > bla = Essa

[sage-devel] Re: sage -sh changes

2009-10-26 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > 2009/10/26 Glenn Tarbox, PhD : >> Beginning with Release 4.1.2, "sage -sh" was adjusted and now completely >> strips the users environment as set in the various .*rc files. >> > > After I read this, I expected the following would happen: > > d-69-91-158-18:~ wstein$ expor

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
Hi, I wonder why everybody (*) making suggestions has never put together a single Sage release themselves, yet everybody who has done significant work putting together Sage releases, organizing the web page, mirror binaries, etc., has completely refrained from making any suggestions? William (*

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Categories review: algebra_modules.py, monoid_algebras.py and groupoids.py

2009-10-26 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Javier, William, David K. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:57:25AM -0700, javier wrote: > Postive review for monoid_algebras.py Thanks! 7 categories left and down! > algebra_modules.py should be instructed to work only for commutative > algebras (and mentioned in the description) as we t

[sage-devel] Re: sage -sh changes

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
2009/10/26 Glenn Tarbox, PhD : > Beginning with Release 4.1.2, "sage -sh" was adjusted and now completely > strips the users environment as set in the various .*rc files. > After I read this, I expected the following would happen: d-69-91-158-18:~ wstein$ export FOO="bar" d-69-91-158-18:~ wstei

[sage-devel] Coercion...

2009-10-26 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi there, I'm having trouble with coercion in sage 4.2... The following (reduced) example works with sage 4.1.2 and breaks with sage 4.2. Here is the error: File "", line 1, in bla = Essai(); bla###line 11: sage: bla = Essai(); bla File "/home/averell/.sage/tmp/wr

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread John Cremona
I hope it's obvious that in my suggested plan, it would be rare for the number to change between alpha & rc, as this would happen only if something major was deemed ready, like the recent notebook rewrite. John 2009/10/26 mhampton : > > Yes, I think doing all those things would help a lot.  John

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread mhampton
Yes, I think doing all those things would help a lot. John Cremona's versioning plan seems to be the best compromise between convenience and accuracy, and doesn't seem like it would cause big problems. And adding an unmirrored link to the previous versions would be great for a number of reasons

[sage-devel] sage -sh changes

2009-10-26 Thread Glenn Tarbox, PhD
Beginning with Release 4.1.2, "sage -sh" was adjusted and now completely strips the users environment as set in the various .*rc files. I'm assuming there were collisions between variables needed by sage and those the user may be setting. However, this recent change seems extreme and makes using

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Why not 'beta' like most other projects? If something goes wrong, > then one might > have a beta2. I've never come across any other open-source project > which adds > 'next'. We essentially do have betas, we just don't call them such. Us

[sage-devel] Re: PIL -- new python imaging library

2009-10-26 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, John Cremona wrote: >> >> Beautiful, thanks.  Yes, I do recognise it from Lloyd's book. > > Here are some other images by Tom Boothby, by the way: > >   http://8tb.us/home/boothby/cover/samples/ > Aweso

[sage-devel] Re: Preparsing in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Grout
Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello !! > > I am writing about a problem I had some time ago. Minh helped me to sort > it out. This time, I found an ugly trick, which is fine for the moment ( > see patch #7314 and the Integer(1) instead of 1 at line 6000 of patch > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/a

[sage-devel] Re: Preparsing in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello !! > > I am writing about a problem I had some time ago. Minh helped me to sort it > out. This time, I found an ugly trick, which is fine for the moment ( see > patch #7314 and the Integer(1) instead of 1 at line 6000 of patch > http:/

[sage-devel] Re: new virtualbox image!

2009-10-26 Thread mhampton
I can't seem to get virtualbox 3.0.8 to work on my mac. Things work fine on my windows machine, I did a small test by adding the new biopython optional package and that worked well. I am curious if anyone else can get virtualbox to work on OS X 10.4, or if its something funny about my machine.

[sage-devel] Preparsing in Sage

2009-10-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello !! I am writing about a problem I had some time ago. Minh helped me to sort it out. This time, I found an ugly trick, which is fine for the moment ( see patch #7314 and the Integer(1) instead of 1 at line 6000 of patch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/attachment/ticket/7314/trac_7314.patch

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread John Cremona
Would it not be a lot simpler if we did what we do now, except that if during the sequence of alpha-releases it becomes apparent that the "next" release is going to have some significant change which warrants a different number from that of the alpha versions (e.g. 4.1.2.alpha? should have been ca

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Jason Grout wrote: > >> So it sounds like the main problem is that the name "sage-next" would >> apply to lots of different releases. How about making it more specific, >> like "sage-4.1.2-next"? >> >> Jason > > Why not 'beta' like most other projects? If something g

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jason Grout wrote: > So it sounds like the main problem is that the name "sage-next" would > apply to lots of different releases. How about making it more specific, > like "sage-4.1.2-next"? > > Jason Why not 'beta' like most other projects? If something goes wrong, then one might have a b

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On Oct 24, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Jason Grout wrote: >> >>> mhampton wrote: >>> One thing that was mentioned on another thread is that the version number for sage-4.1.2 was quite misleading. It would help a

[sage-devel] Re: PIL -- new python imaging library

2009-10-26 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
I believe you may need to install this libjpeg spkg, and then reinstall pil: {{{ $ sage -f http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/timdumol/libjpeg-7.p0.spkg $ sage -f http://sagemath.org/packages/optional/pil-1.1.6.spkg }}} Hopefully that will fix your problems. - Tim Joseph Dumol On Mon, Oct

[sage-devel] Re: PIL -- new python imaging library

2009-10-26 Thread Pierre
>   2. I loaded my image and tried to resize it, but Sage died with "The > _imaging C module is not installed". > This was because I had Macports (hence libjpeg) installed when I > upgraded Sage, but not anymore, so I reinstalled PIL.  This is > basically the same problem Georg Weber pointed out,

[sage-devel] Re: html5 video in the notebook

2009-10-26 Thread Wilfried Huss
Pat LeSmithe wrote: > On 10/18/2009 10:07 AM, William Stein wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Wilfried Huss >> wrote: >> >>> Linking to an external video file works as expected. But if I >>> try to use an ogg theora video, which is uploaded into the DATA >>> directory, as the

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.2

2009-10-26 Thread Stan Schymanski
I think it worked for me with OS X 10.4.11 and Sage-4.1.1: compile, try out, rename directory, run again ("wait while sage is resetting the path" or something along these lines), then do sage -clone blah. This having said, I have not been able to compile Sage-4.1.2 at all and after hearing abo

[sage-devel] Re: What about Sage Conservative version?

2009-10-26 Thread Maurizio
Thank you Rob, you seem to have caught my point 100%, I completely agree with your comments Maurizio On Oct 26, 1:06 am, Rob Beezer wrote: > We have a Sage server on our campus. We don't have departmental > sysadmins, instead it is maintained by the same folks who do the > administrative syst