On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:37 PM, John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Trac ticket #6820 (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6820)
> makes the following change:
>
>    sage: help()
>
> no longer runs the interactive Python help utility.  Instead, it
> prints a message:
>
>    sage: help()
>    Welcome to Sage 4.2!  To view the Sage tutorial in your web
> browser,
>    type 'tutorial()', and to view the (very detailed) Sage reference
> manual,
>    type 'manual()'.  For help on any function, for example
> 'matrix_plot', type
>    'matrix_plot?' to see a help message, type 'browse_sage_doc
> (matrix_plot)'
>    to view the same message in a web browser, and type
> 'matrix_plot??' to look
>    at the function's source code.
>
>    To use Python's online help utility, type 'python_help()'.
>
> (The ticket also implements the commands "tutorial", "manual", and
> "python_help".)  This is potentially a significant change, so I
> thought I would bring it up for discussion.  Is it a good idea?
>
>  John

I use the following *all the time*:

 sage: import numpy
 sage: help(numpy)
 ... very nice numpy
sage: numpy?
.... totally different output from "help(numpy)"!

1. After your patch, if I type "help(numpy)" I get an error since your
help takes no options.  Why not make it work like before in that case?

2. If I read the above output that you added, I would never think to
type python_help(numpy), since you write that I should "To use
Python's online help utility, type 'python_help()'."

 -- William

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