[sage-devel] Re: Polynomial Factoring Content Problem

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:30 PM, rjf wrote: > > hey, factoring-testing guys.. > If you make up factoring problems this way, you are probably not doing > much testing of the real factoring algorithms. Repeated factors like I for one am very grateful for this bug report. Andy is doing a superb jo

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:58 AM, rjf wrote: >> >> Reading the bug report it seemed to me that the code was determining >> in some way that terms could be dropped off the sum because they were >> too small to contribute, and then >> sto

[sage-devel] Re: Polynomial Factoring Content Problem

2009-10-02 Thread rjf
hey, factoring-testing guys.. If you make up factoring problems this way, you are probably not doing much testing of the real factoring algorithms. Repeated factors like this of different degree are detected by so-called square-free factorization. The time to factor F in Maxima is, to the resoluti

[sage-devel] Re: segfault one-liner

2009-10-02 Thread Tom Boothby
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:05 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > This is fixed in some trac ticket.  Hang on a second... #5556. Go > ahead and review the patch! Nope, that doesn't do the job. Do you want to fix it on that ticket or should I make another? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~---

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread rjf
On Oct 2, 5:32 pm, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:58 AM, rjf wrote: > > > Reading the bug report it seemed to me that the code was determining > > in some way that terms could be dropped off the sum because they were > > too small to contribute, and then > > stopped addin

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:58 AM, rjf wrote: > > Reading the bug report it seemed to me that the code was determining > in some way that terms could be dropped off the sum because they were > too small to contribute, and then > stopped adding them in. Is that the "simple implementation bug"? Or is

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:17 AM, rjf wrote: > > Oh, if you are not really evaluating polynomials but just adding up a > long list of numbers, then you can try some kind of compensating sum > e.g. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahan_summation_algorithm > > Though such things are perhaps unnecessar

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread rjf
Oh, if you are not really evaluating polynomials but just adding up a long list of numbers, then you can try some kind of compensating sum e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahan_summation_algorithm Though such things are perhaps unnecessary if you are happy with just increasing the precision of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Oct 3, 12:33 am, Paul Böhm wrote: > we ported scipy to google wave before. we have code, there's some > trickery involved. same stuff would work for sage i'm sure. > i can help you get set up, but can't maintain the code. sound good? sounds cool! i've looked at how the wolfram alpha integrati

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread rjf
Reading the bug report it seemed to me that the code was determining in some way that terms could be dropped off the sum because they were too small to contribute, and then stopped adding them in. Is that the "simple implementation bug"? Or is that an additional bad idea? As for me looking it up

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread Paul Böhm
hi, not sure if my last mail came through: we ported scipy to google wave before. we have code, there's some trickery involved. same stuff would work for sage i'm sure. i can help you get set up, but can't maintain the code. sound good? get in touch with me! (not really reading this list) oh scr

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Reviewing categories code: bimodules.py

2009-10-02 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:10:54AM -0700, javier wrote: > I jst realized that the check is realized via Category_over_base_ring. > Sorry for the noise. > Positive review for bimodules.py For modules and friends, yes, but actually not for bimodules (which inherits directly from Category. I am fix

[sage-devel] Re: segfault one-liner

2009-10-02 Thread Tom Boothby
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:05 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > This is fixed in some trac ticket.  Hang on a second... #5556. Go > ahead and review the patch!  I discovered this completely by accident > while fixing another gamma bug.  Nasty, isn't it? Nice! I'll review that tonight. > > - kcrisman > >

[sage-devel] Re: segfault one-liner

2009-10-02 Thread kcrisman
This is fixed in some trac ticket. Hang on a second... #5556. Go ahead and review the patch! I discovered this completely by accident while fixing another gamma bug. Nasty, isn't it? - kcrisman On Oct 2, 1:51 pm, Tom Boothby wrote: > Intentional: > > cython("print (0)[0]") > > Unintentional:

[sage-devel] Re: doctests which save files

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, John H Palmieri >> wrote: >>> Through tickets #6864 and #7059, Karl-Dieter Crisman and I have been >>> trying to stamp out the practice in which doctests save files in the >>> current

[sage-devel] segfault one-liner

2009-10-02 Thread Tom Boothby
Intentional: cython("print (0)[0]") Unintentional: gamma(CDF(1000)) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more optio

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread ulfarsson
Hi, I'm would also be thrilled to get an invite if someone has some leftover invitations! Best, Henning Ulfarsson On Oct 2, 3:50 pm, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Well, if one of these persons is reading this thread and has > invitations to spare  :-D > > Thanks > > Nathann > > On Oct 2,

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM, rjf wrote: > > I think that this is one of those times that you might like to look up > in the literature how to do something, instead of pulling an > "algorithm" out of your posterior. Stable evaluation of polynomials is > the subject. FYI, this is a simple imple

[sage-devel] Re: doctests which save files

2009-10-02 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> Through tickets #6864 and #7059, Karl-Dieter Crisman and I have been >> trying to stamp out the practice in which doctests save files in the >> current working directory -- among other things, it's annoying to hav

[sage-devel] Re: doctests which save files

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Through tickets #6864 and #7059, Karl-Dieter Crisman and I have been > trying to stamp out the practice in which doctests save files in the > current working directory -- among other things, it's annoying to have > your directory littered

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM, rjf wrote: > > I think that this is one of those times that you might like to look up > in the literature how to do something, instead of pulling an > "algorithm" out of your posterior. Stable evaluation of polynomials is > the subject. It would be really cool if

[sage-devel] Re: weird sympy evalf behaviour

2009-10-02 Thread rjf
I think that this is one of those times that you might like to look up in the literature how to do something, instead of pulling an "algorithm" out of your posterior. Stable evaluation of polynomials is the subject. On Oct 1, 10:01 pm, Carlo Hamalainen wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM,

[sage-devel] doctests which save files

2009-10-02 Thread John H Palmieri
Through tickets #6864 and #7059, Karl-Dieter Crisman and I have been trying to stamp out the practice in which doctests save files in the current working directory -- among other things, it's annoying to have your directory littered with files like "test.png", "zz.png", and "my_general_distributio

[sage-devel] Re: Sage trac workflow

2009-10-02 Thread Jason Grout
Harald Schilly wrote: > just looked at it briefly, my question: is "invalid" and "duplicate" > covered by an immediate closed? imagine, if i search for a keyword in > open bugs, but that keyword matches a duplicate which is closed (and > maybe not covered by the search), i miss it and might open a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage trac workflow

2009-10-02 Thread Jason Grout
Robert Bradshaw wrote: >>> I think rather than having several kinds of needs_work states, we >>> should have a new field. Thus we could have "needs_work" with the >>> "issues" field being documentation, doctests, rebasing, ... >> That makes sense. However, then I think we're back to the problem

[sage-devel] sagemath.org, etc.

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
Hi, After being rock solid for 9 months, the VMware server crashed badly on boxen.math.washington.edu, and we absolutely could not get it to work despite repeated clean reinstalls, reboots, etc. Repeatedly tempted by things appearing to work, I tried to migrate the virtual infrastructure to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread Nathann Cohen
Well, if one of these persons is reading this thread and has invitations to spare :-D Thanks Nathann On Oct 2, 5:03 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Oct 2, 3:49 pm, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > Is there anyone among us who > > already tried it ? > > Yes, me, wave is currently in a l

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Oct 2, 3:49 pm, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Is there anyone among us who > already tried it ? Yes, me, wave is currently in a limited preview mode, just like gmail was in it's early days. means, i can invite 8 people and yes, some of them are from sage, so, once they are also wavyfied, you can ask

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread Nathann Cohen
I learnt about Google Wave a few days ago and thought it would be great to work on Sage through this Even though for the moment, very few people have access to it. Is there anyone among us who already tried it ? I filled a form on their site to obtain one, but they seem to say there won't be

[sage-devel] Proposing some changes to sage-env for portability

2009-10-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I was thinking of making some changes to sage-env, with the main aim of improving portability and getting rid of GNUisms. I'd be intersted in any thoughts on the following, or other things which could be done. I've also made some changes to 'prereq-0.4', http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/ki

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on FreeBSD

2009-10-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Peter Jeremy wrote: > Given all the recent work on the Solaris port (kudos to David for > that), I'm sorry to say that the FreeBSD port hasn't gone anywhere for > the past 6 weeks or so. > > I've just uploaded my latest patches (for 4.1.1) into the Wiki > (http://wiki.sagemath.org/freebsd/sage-4.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Google Wave

2009-10-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 30, 10:49 pm, Bill Page wrote: > http://wave.google.com here is an example for wolfram alpha http://code.google.com/p/wavealpha/ h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, s

[sage-devel] Re: Sage trac workflow

2009-10-02 Thread Harald Schilly
just looked at it briefly, my question: is "invalid" and "duplicate" covered by an immediate closed? imagine, if i search for a keyword in open bugs, but that keyword matches a duplicate which is closed (and maybe not covered by the search), i miss it and might open a new issue that is a duplicate

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.2.rc0 released

2009-10-02 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Håkan Granath wrote: > A minor point: some documentation on keyboard shortcuts was added to > the reference manual in #6556, but the sage/server/notebook/config > section > was removed in #6840. Thanks very much for pointing this out. I'll create a new ticket and patch to bring config.py back in

[sage-devel] Re: sagemath infrastructure

2009-10-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:06 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:03 AM, William Stein > wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Robert Bradshaw >> wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 1, 1:29 pm, Jason Grout wrote: William Stein wrote: > Hi, > I just started one instance

[sage-devel] Re: sagemath infrastructure

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:03 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> >> On Oct 1, 1:29 pm, Jason Grout wrote: >>> William Stein wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> >>> > I just started one instance of virtualbox on >>> > boxen.math.washington.edu... which had th

[sage-devel] Re: sagemath infrastructure

2009-10-02 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Oct 1, 1:29 pm, Jason Grout wrote: >> William Stein wrote: >> > Hi, >> >> > I just started one instance of virtualbox on >> > boxen.math.washington.edu... which had the effect of completely >> > crashes >> > *all* theVMwarevirtual ma