[sage-devel] Re: Anyone want an account on first release of Solaris 10 ?

2009-08-31 Thread maha a
Hi , I love to work with all software that help us in teaching mathematics using Technology for students in our schools, I works as a trainer for geogebra program in our schooles , give the teachers training for interactive mathematics class room using all technology software , it is good , but

[sage-devel] Re: sage fails to build with user built python in PATH

2009-08-31 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Ondrej, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > Hi, > > we got this bugreport in femhub: > > http://groups.google.com/group/femhub/browse_thread/thread/1bfad9ea3ec7df48 > > and it turns out it is a Sage problem as well. > > Essentially if the user installs his own python and p

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-31 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM, David Joyner > wrote: > > Things I think would be cool: > > 1) spreadsheet functionality, > > > Hello, > > Does anybody know of an *open source* (so could be included in Sage) > AJAX spreadsheet

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-31 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:14 PM, William Stein wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:31 PM, David Joyner wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:19 PM, William Stein wrote: >> > >> ... >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Does anybody know of an *open source* (so could be included in Sage) >> > AJAX >> > s

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:31 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:19 PM, William Stein wrote: > > > ... > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anybody know of an *open source* (so could be included in Sage) AJAX > > spreadsheet implementation? I.e., something kind of like Google docs > >

[sage-devel] Re: Applying a patch to a clone

2009-08-31 Thread Stan Schymanski
Dear all, I tried different ways of applying a patch and probably made a bit of a mess in my repository. Is there a way to revert it back to a clean 4.1.1 install? I keep getting a message about an uncommitted merge... Here is what I did in OSX 10.4: --

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-31 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:19 PM, William Stein wrote: > ... > > Hello, > > Does anybody know of an *open source* (so could be included in Sage) AJAX > spreadsheet implementation?   I.e., something kind of like Google docs > spreadsheet or http://www.editgrid.com/, but open source.   That is, > som

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM, David Joyner wrote: > Things I think would be cool: > > 1) spreadsheet functionality, > Hello, Does anybody know of an *open source* (so could be included in Sage) AJAX spreadsheet implementation? I.e., something kind of like Google docs spreadsheet or http://

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-08-31 Thread TimDaly
I also don't consider Fateman's comments flamebait. This kind of syntactic-philosopy discussion comes up frequently on CA mailing lists. I've had an offline discussion about supporting the quantum mechanical ket operator with the syntax of "|state>". One possible implementation is to consider th

[sage-devel] Re: sage in mobile wap browser

2009-08-31 Thread Dan Drake
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 at 06:32PM +0200, Harald Schilly wrote: > I found this: > http://math1.skku.ac.kr/wap_html > (links on top just mean "example 1-4") > > Is this open source, or who is behind that? Never seen before ;) > The base url is a korean (?) translated sage notebook ... Jin-yeong Bak ("

[sage-devel] Re: MPIR build failure on first release of Solaris 10 (03/2005)

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Juanjo wrote: > On Aug 31, 6:37 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> I just tried to build Sage (part of which is MPIR) on a Sun Ultra 80 >> SPARC) machine I set up for testing Sage on the first release of Solaris >> 10. >> It appears this was fixed in Solaris patch 123647-01 (August 2006), >> thou

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Brian Granger wrote: > > I would expect apache to come with any relatively recent Unix or >>> unix-like box. Perhaps it's not installed by default though. (It is on >>> Solaris). >>> >>> I just checked and see the latest Apache is 6.6 MB, so not small, but >>> no

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Apache really is a standard. I don't see it has any serious competition. It seems like lighttpd (http://www.lighttpd.net/) is preferable to apache in some instances. According to wikipedia: "Lighttpd is used by some of the biggest websites, including sites such a

[sage-devel] Re: MPIR build failure on first release of Solaris 10 (03/2005)

2009-08-31 Thread Juanjo
On Aug 31, 6:37 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > I just tried to build Sage (part of which is MPIR) on a Sun Ultra 80 > SPARC) machine I set up for testing Sage on the first release of Solaris > 10. > It appears this was fixed in Solaris patch 123647-01 (August 2006), > though the latest version o

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Alex Clemesha
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:59 AM, William Stein wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Thierry Dumont > wrote: >> >> William Stein a écrit : >> > >> >   The first thing I plan to do is consider switching from >> > twisted to Django, as is done in codenode -- see http://codenode.org/ -- >> >

[sage-devel] Re: behavior of log for nonpositive integers

2009-08-31 Thread kcrisman
On Aug 28, 8:18 pm, Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > I'm working on #6388, > > Thanks for taking the effort on this bug. > > > sage: a = Integer(-1) > > sage: a.log() > > ValueError about input being negative > > sage: log(-1) > > Sa

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Brian Granger
> I would expect apache to come with any relatively recent Unix or >> unix-like box. Perhaps it's not installed by default though. (It is on >> Solaris). >> >> I just checked and see the latest Apache is 6.6 MB, so not small, but >> not particularly huge. >> >> Apache really is a standard. I don't

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Tim Dumol wrote: > > Codenode doesn't work with Sage currently, although Dorian Raymer is > working on the backend, and it seems it should be ready within a week. > > It seems that Codenode can replace the Notebook eventually, assuming > there are ways to plug in

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > > >> William Stein wrote: > >> > >>> When we wrote the second version of the notebook, twisted.web2 was > >>> *the* > >>> way to go, according to various

[sage-devel] Re: permission problem when uploading worksheet

2009-08-31 Thread Willem Jan Palenstijn
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 05:37:20PM +, Willem Jan Palenstijn wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:25:54AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Willem Jan Palenstijn > > wrote: > > > Ok, done. This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6843 . > > > >

[sage-devel] Re: sage in mobile wap browser

2009-08-31 Thread Rob Beezer
That's very nice. Might be useful during exams. ;-) Rob On Aug 31, 9:32 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > I found this:http://math1.skku.ac.kr/wap_html > (links on top just mean "example 1-4") > > Is this open source, or who is behind that? Never seen before ;) > The base url is a korean (?) transl

[sage-devel] sage fails to build with user built python in PATH

2009-08-31 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, we got this bugreport in femhub: http://groups.google.com/group/femhub/browse_thread/thread/1bfad9ea3ec7df48 and it turns out it is a Sage problem as well. Essentially if the user installs his own python and puts it into PATH, Sage picks this python instead (and then it fails of course, du

[sage-devel] Re: MPIR build failure on first release of Solaris 10 (03/2005)

2009-08-31 Thread Bill Hart
I'm CCing this to mpir-devel and we will add a ticket to trac for noting this in the manual, if it isn't already in there. Bill. On 31 Aug, 17:37, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > I just tried to build Sage (part of which is MPIR) on a Sun Ultra 80 > SPARC) machine I set up for testing Sage on the f

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-08-31 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:23 AM, rjf wrote: > >> >> You can either >> (a) adhere to Python syntax. >> (b) adhere to Python except for a few changes that are so subtle that >> no one would even notice. >> (c) adhere to Python except for a few more chang

[sage-devel] Anyone want an account on first release of Solaris 10 ?

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
If anyone here builds software and wants to know if it works on the first release of Solaris 10 on SPARC, let me know and I'll create an account. I set up a quad 450 MHz processor Sun Ultra 80 with 4 GB RAM to test Sage. Juanjo (the ECL developer) is using it to test ECL too. I don't intend ke

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > >> William Stein wrote: >> >>> When we wrote the second version of the notebook, twisted.web2 was >>> *the* >>> way to go, according to various people. However, it turned out that >>> using twisted.web2 was not the

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Tim Dumol
Codenode doesn't work with Sage currently, although Dorian Raymer is working on the backend, and it seems it should be ready within a week. It seems that Codenode can replace the Notebook eventually, assuming there are ways to plug in a few templates (to include the Help, etc.). It's well-modular

[sage-devel] MPIR build failure on first release of Solaris 10 (03/2005)

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I just tried to build Sage (part of which is MPIR) on a Sun Ultra 80 SPARC) machine I set up for testing Sage on the first release of Solaris 10. $ cat /etc/release Solaris 10 3/05 s10_74L2a SPARC Copyright 2005 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

[sage-devel] sage in mobile wap browser

2009-08-31 Thread Harald Schilly
I found this: http://math1.skku.ac.kr/wap_html (links on top just mean "example 1-4") Is this open source, or who is behind that? Never seen before ;) The base url is a korean (?) translated sage notebook ... via: http://kdpu.1bbs.info/viewtopic.php?t=103 H --~--~-~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > William Stein wrote: > >> When we wrote the second version of the notebook, twisted.web2 was *the* >> way to go, according to various people. However, it turned out that >> using twisted.web2 was not the way to go, as the project was >> discontinued as an independent

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > William Stein wrote: > >> When we wrote the second version of the notebook, twisted.web2 was >> *the* >> way to go, according to various people. However, it turned out that >> using twisted.web2 was not the way to go, as the project was >>

[sage-devel] Re: -m64 is not a linker flag.

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Bill Hart wrote: > Just to add to what was said. The -m64 is *required* on OSX 64. If you > don't include it, everything blows up. In fact you will get piles and > piles of errors which all look very subtle and you will pull your hair > out for months trying to figure out what is going wrong. All

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > When we wrote the second version of the notebook, twisted.web2 was *the* > way to go, according to various people. However, it turned out that > using twisted.web2 was not the way to go, as the project was > discontinued as an independent project. Perhaps a silly ques

[sage-devel] Re: Programs in Sage using SCons are really screwed up.

2009-08-31 Thread Bill Hart
SCons is much newer than the ancient GNU autotools. It is quite possible that various subtleties are yet to be sort out in SCons. It may well be worth reporting this issue to the SCons people, as they may well not know about it (or may be able to give advice on how to avoid the problem). Bill. O

[sage-devel] Re: -m64 is not a linker flag.

2009-08-31 Thread Bill Hart
Just to add to what was said. The -m64 is *required* on OSX 64. If you don't include it, everything blows up. In fact you will get piles and piles of errors which all look very subtle and you will pull your hair out for months trying to figure out what is going wrong. All obvious to Michael, but I

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Thierry Dumont wrote: > William Stein a écrit : > > > > The first thing I plan to do is consider switching from > > twisted to Django, as is done in codenode -- see http://codenode.org/ -- > > hopefully, even sharing code with that project. > > Django is used (ge

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-08-31 Thread John Cremona
We have not actually had any +1 votes for a new postfix ! operator, so it's bit premature to criticise that decision be fore it hasn't been made. (William's +1 was for a different suggestion, that Sage's symbolic variables should not be allowed to be wider than python's. Again, keeping to python

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Thierry Dumont
William Stein a écrit : > > The first thing I plan to do is consider switching from > twisted to Django, as is done in codenode -- see http://codenode.org/ -- > hopefully, even sharing code with that project. Django is used (generally) with mod_python under Apache. Does it means that the

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:23 AM, rjf wrote: > > You can either > (a) adhere to Python syntax. > (b) adhere to Python except for a few changes that are so subtle that > no one would even notice. > (c) adhere to Python except for a few more changes that you tell > everyone about and hope that the d

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-08-31 Thread rjf
You can either (a) adhere to Python syntax. (b) adhere to Python except for a few changes that are so subtle that no one would even notice. (c) adhere to Python except for a few more changes that you tell everyone about and hope that the discrepancy between Sage and Python (and Cython) will not be

[sage-devel] Re: Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Tim Dumol wrote: > > The Notebook currently uses Twisted.Web2 as its server. As stated href="http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedWebPlan";>here, > Twisted.Web2 is being phased out and its useful features being merged > back into Twisted.Web. There doesn't s

[sage-devel] Programs in Sage using SCons are really screwed up.

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I have no idea if this is a fault of SCons, or in the many programs in Sage that use SCons, but the combination does not seem to work too well on Solaris. SCons seems determined to use the Sun compilers in some situations. Below the varaible CC was clearly defined to be /usr/sfw/bin/gcc. It is

[sage-devel] Re: Formal sums... but not the ones we have !

2009-08-31 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi Nathann, On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Nathann Cohen > Is there a way in Sage to define a Formal sum ? Something like > sum( a_i, i \in [0,...5] ) or even worse, sum(a_e, e\in g.edges()) for > g a graph, etc. For formal or symbolic sum, you need to make it a SFunction sub-class of new sy

[sage-devel] Is there any particular reason why Notebook uses Twisted.Web2 instead of Twisted.Web?

2009-08-31 Thread Tim Dumol
The Notebook currently uses Twisted.Web2 as its server. As stated http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedWebPlan";>here, Twisted.Web2 is being phased out and its useful features being merged back into Twisted.Web. There doesn't seem to be any support for Twisted.Web2 -- I cannot find proper doc

[sage-devel] Re: possible bug in permutation/quotient group?

2009-08-31 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:47 PM, javier wrote: > If that you want are the cosets you can get them simply using > > cosets = Set([Set([h*g for h in H]) for g in G]) > > or if you want to get a representative of each coset you can then use > > reps = [x[0] for x in cosets] This will force you to en

[sage-devel] Re: Sphinx/ReST question

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Monday 31 August 2009, Carlo Hamalainen wrote: > Also \textnormal{Foo} works in math mode and will force things to be > the normal paragraph font even inside lemma or theorem environments > with an italic font. AFAIK this is the preferred solution because it doesn't presuppose anything about

[sage-devel] Formal sums... but not the ones we have !

2009-08-31 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody I had a difficult time trying to find a way, in Linear Programming, to neatly define a sum over a set of elements... This, because I would like to write a clean function __latex__ for MIP, and that I can not just output all the constraints, as most of them are of the form \fo

[sage-devel] Re: 10 myths about GUI design

2009-08-31 Thread Pierre
maurizio, you should perhaps get in touch with Nick Alexander about your emacs issues. The instructions you pointed at are the ones which worked for me straight away (on Aquamacs, but any recent emacs should do). what exactly is the matter ? i'll try and help. On Aug 30, 7:22 pm, Maurizio wrote