[sage-devel] Re: Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition for Sage

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Alexander
> unfortunately, there is little support for QEPCAD for mac. In > particular, it seems that my system mac os 10.4/ppc is not even > supported by fink. See http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/qepcad I know nothing about this, but start with the spkg at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ti

[sage-devel] Re: Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition for Sage

2009-08-05 Thread mirko
Hi, unfortunately, there is little support for QEPCAD for mac. In particular, it seems that my system mac os 10.4/ppc is not even supported by fink. See http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/qepcad Any other suggestions? Thanks, Mirko On Aug 5, 3:50 pm, Roman Pearce wrote: > On Aug 5, 2:

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and medical imaging (i.e. pynifti)

2009-08-05 Thread Marshall Hampton
I forgot to cc my reply here, so anyone interested should perhaps respond on sage-support where the original post is. -Marshall On Aug 5, 10:12 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > > > > > > I gave this a shot but it seems its not trivial to ins

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage and medical imaging (i.e. pynifti)

2009-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > I gave this a shot but it seems its not trivial to install. > > 1) I installed pymvpa with: > > pymvpa-0.4.2: sage -python setup.py build_ext > > 2) I installed the nifti c libraries with: > > nifticlib-1.1.0: make all > > 2b) then I copi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and medical imaging (i.e. pynifti)

2009-08-05 Thread Marshall Hampton
I gave this a shot but it seems its not trivial to install. 1) I installed pymvpa with: pymvpa-0.4.2: sage -python setup.py build_ext 2) I installed the nifti c libraries with: nifticlib-1.1.0: make all 2b) then I copied everything in the bin, lib, and include directories into the correspondi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc0 finally builds on the Sun T5240 (t2).

2009-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > In /scratch/kirkby/sage-4.1.1.rc0 there is a build of sage: > > > kir...@t2:[/scratch/kirkby/sage-4.1.1.rc0] $ ./sage > -- > | Sage Version 4.1.1.rc0, Release Date: 2009-

[sage-devel] Re: only use ASCII characters in patches

2009-08-05 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > > On 2009-Aug-04 15:49:40 +0100, David Kirkby wrote: >>I don't claim to know the most appropiate letter - it was just what it >>looked like when I see it. But I would agree non-ASCII characters >>should be removed - it causes many issues. > > I would see

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-05 Thread J Elaych
I went into spkg/build and tried different flags. Surprisingly with MAKE=make it systematically died at the same place, base3.c, but with MAKE="make -j2" it continued on until it reached init.c, and stopped there. Ubuntu is updating gcc-4.4 just about every day, so maybe soon it will work. I ba

[sage-devel] Re: pictures in the reference manual?

2009-08-05 Thread Pat LeSmithe
John H Palmieri wrote: > Should we allow the inclusion of pictures in the reference manual? We > could have a directory > > SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/en/reference/pictures > > and then in docstrings in the Sage library code, a line like > > .. image:: ../../pictures/sphere.png > > would inc

[sage-devel] Memory management with @parallel('multiprocessing'), or, how do I use Heapy?

2009-08-05 Thread Ahmed Fasih
I started writing this post asking for assistance on using Heapy for studying my Sage application's memory usage. But I think that a more important question relates to my use of @parallel('multiprocessing'). So here goes. Section 1. On an 8-core machine, I kick off a function (which has been deco

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc0 finally builds on the Sun T5240 (t2).

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > In /scratch/kirkby/sage-4.1.1.rc0 there is a build of sage: I should add, although ECL is built using a download from the ECL CVS repesitory, I've not made any changes to Maxima, so that is not built in Sage on Solaris yet. Dave --~--~-~--~~~-

[sage-devel] Sage 4.1.1.rc0 finally builds on the Sun T5240 (t2).

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
In /scratch/kirkby/sage-4.1.1.rc0 there is a build of sage: kir...@t2:[/scratch/kirkby/sage-4.1.1.rc0] $ ./sage -- | Sage Version 4.1.1.rc0, Release Date: 2009-07-29 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:12 PM, J Elaych wrote: > > I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 beta with amd64 x2 and the > gcc version 4.4.1 (Ubuntu 4.4.1-1ubuntu1). The > build just stops at base3, for hours so far, though > 'top' shows cc1 using 99% cpu. I can't find any > related info by searching the group but th

[sage-devel] Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-05 Thread J Elaych
I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 beta with amd64 x2 and the gcc version 4.4.1 (Ubuntu 4.4.1-1ubuntu1). The build just stops at base3, for hours so far, though 'top' shows cc1 using 99% cpu. I can't find any related info by searching the group but that doesn't mean there isn't a fix. Does anybody have any sug

[sage-devel] Sage on the Sun website

2009-08-05 Thread William Stein
Hi, There is an article on the Sun website that mentions Sage: http://www.sun.com/customers/servers/univ_washington.xml William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to t

[sage-devel] Re: pictures in the reference manual?

2009-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Should we allow the inclusion of pictures in the reference manual? Yes, definitely. The only possible reason not to have pictures is not being able to figure out how to include pictures. William > We > could have a directory > > SAG

[sage-devel] Re: pictures in the reference manual?

2009-08-05 Thread David Joyner
+1 I like this idea. I wonder if another possibility is to simply have a local link which notebook users could click on? I also wonder what would happen on command line if you typed "plot?", where the docstring for plot had a picture? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:29 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Sho

[sage-devel] pictures in the reference manual?

2009-08-05 Thread John H Palmieri
Should we allow the inclusion of pictures in the reference manual? We could have a directory SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/en/reference/pictures and then in docstrings in the Sage library code, a line like .. image:: ../../pictures/sphere.png would include the picture in the reference manual.

[sage-devel] Re: Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition for Sage

2009-08-05 Thread Roman Pearce
On Aug 5, 2:35 pm, mirko wrote: > I would be interested if Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition is > implemented in Sage? QEPCAD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

[sage-devel] Re: error while compiling source

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mirko > wrote: > > > Hi, > > Indeed, I was using gcc version 4.0.0 20041026 (Apple Computer, Inc. > build 4061) since I overlooked the warning in > http://www.sagemath.org/src/README.t

[sage-devel] Re: error while compiling source

2009-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mirko wrote: > > Hi, > > Indeed, I was using gcc version 4.0.0 20041026 (Apple Computer, Inc. > build 4061) since I overlooked the warning in > http://www.sagemath.org/src/README.txt > > Perhaps it would make sense to give a warning when executing make? Sure. We

[sage-devel] Re: Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition for Sage

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Alexander
> I would be interested if Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition is > implemented in Sage? I think Carl Witty is interested in this, and have cc'ed him this message. (I haven't seen Carl in quite some time, after many valuable contributions.) Nick --~--~-~--~~~---

[sage-devel] Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition for Sage

2009-08-05 Thread mirko
Hi, I would be interested if Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition is implemented in Sage? Thanks, Mirko --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr..

[sage-devel] Re: error while compiling source

2009-08-05 Thread mirko
Hi, Indeed, I was using gcc version 4.0.0 20041026 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 4061) since I overlooked the warning in http://www.sagemath.org/src/README.txt Perhaps it would make sense to give a warning when executing make? I will upgrade to a new version of gcc (in the meantime, I am using t

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
brandon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: > I did try setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH but this resulted in the same > problem. I even tried temporarily changing the ld.config search order > with crle (the solaris cousin of the linux ldconfig) from: > > /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib > > to: > /usr/local/lib:/lib:/

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Aug 5, 1:44 pm, John H Palmieri wrote: > On Aug 5, 12:57 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: [snip] > On my ubuntu box, if I upgrade to Sphinx-0.6.2, for the file sage/ > graphs/graph I get the message > >   Sphinx error: >   'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 404: ordinal not in > range(1

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Aug 5, 12:57 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi John, > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:30 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > > Well, when I build from source, the documentation completely fails to > > build, so if this is what's happening to you, then it's not surprising > > that a search through the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi John, On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:30 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > Well, when I build from source, the documentation completely fails to > build, so if this is what's happening to you, then it's not surprising > that a search through the docs produces an incorrect result, hence > giving this do

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-05 Thread brandon.bar...@gmail.com
Strangely after rebuilding under these conditions it is now failing on mpir (it is capable of building software so it isn't completely broken): configure:4497: checking compiler /usr/local/bin/gcc -O2 -fomit-frame- pointer Test compile: configure:4511: /usr/local/bin/gcc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer

[sage-devel] Re: only use ASCII characters in patches

2009-08-05 Thread peterjeremy
On 2009-Aug-04 15:49:40 +0100, David Kirkby wrote: >I don't claim to know the most appropiate letter - it was just what it >looked like when I see it. But I would agree non-ASCII characters >should be removed - it causes many issues. I would see restricting Sage to ASCII-only as fairly limiting

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-05 Thread brandon.bar...@gmail.com
I did try setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH but this resulted in the same problem. I even tried temporarily changing the ld.config search order with crle (the solaris cousin of the linux ldconfig) from: /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib to: /usr/local/lib:/lib:/usr/lib But this didn't help. Perhaps If I reb

[sage-devel] Re: Getting started with my own branch

2009-08-05 Thread VictorMiller
Ok, I think I've found the problem. Perhaps this should point to the need for making clear and complete instructions about creating your own copy. I found that in my local copy there was a sage script that pointed to the systemwide sage. When I changed that I now get my local copy. So perhaps

[sage-devel] Re: Getting started with my own branch

2009-08-05 Thread VictorMiller
On Aug 4, 5:57 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:50 PM, VictorMiller wrote: > > > > > It isn't.  Systemwide SAGE is only in my path if I run a particular > > script.  I tried this in a fresh shell and checked that the systemwide > > SAGE wasn't there.  The problem was still th

[sage-devel] Re: Getting started with my own branch

2009-08-05 Thread VictorMiller
First, when I run mysage -sh and look at the environment variables involving the string SAGE, I find they the all point to my local copy. There is a SAGE_SERVER variable which has the value http://www.sagemath.org, but that shouldn't do anything since the computer that I'm on is not connected t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Aug 5, 6:45 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Alex Ghitza wrote: > > >> Built from scratch on > > >> Linux cartan 2.6.28-15-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 08:53:35 UTC > >> 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux >

[sage-devel] Re: Are these reasonable assumptions about compilers ?

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
gsw wrote: > Hi, > > On 5 Aug., 11:59, David Kirkby wrote: >> I want to change the file prereq-0.3/configure.ac to make a new >> prereq-0.4/configure script, as currently the configure script does a >> few things I think are wrong. >> >> 1) If CC is set to a non-GNU compiler, the configure scrip

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
brandon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: > Actually this seems to be an issue with it trying to link to the > system mpfr. Shouldn't sage built its own mpfr? I agree with you it looks like termcap is linking to the wrong library, but it does appear that gcc has generated an internal error. That is anot

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
brandon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: > I think my current gcc toolchain may be doomed, as it uses the sun > linker and the gnu assembler! (I read this was a good thing to do, at > least at some point in history). Mixing the GNU and Sun assemblers/linkers could issues in Sage, due to the way some patc

[sage-devel] Re: Is new symbolic derivative really worth the efforts?

2009-08-05 Thread Tim Lahey
On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:25 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > >> (5) Looses information irrecoverably: >> >> From "D[0](f)(x-a)" its not possible to decide whether original >> variable of differentiation was "x" as in f(x-a).diff(x) or "a" >> as in -f(x-a).diff(a). This again affects integration algorithm

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Alex Ghitza wrote: >> >> Built from scratch on >> >> Linux cartan 2.6.28-15-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 08:53:35 UTC >> 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> >> (MacBook running 64-bit Ubuntu). >> >> Runnin

[sage-devel] Re: Is new symbolic derivative really worth the efforts?

2009-08-05 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi Burcin, On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: >> (1) Breaks substitution: > > We could either use the existing CallableSymbolicExpressionRing > implementation and force the user to give names to the arguments, to > get something like: I would appreciate if you implement a

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Alex, On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Alex Ghitza wrote: > > Built from scratch on > > Linux cartan 2.6.28-15-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 08:53:35 UTC > 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > (MacBook running 64-bit Ubuntu). > > Running make test gave one failing doctest, which is repeatable: > > [gh

[sage-devel] Re: Are these reasonable assumptions about compilers ?

2009-08-05 Thread gsw
Hi, On 5 Aug., 11:59, David Kirkby wrote: > I want to change the file prereq-0.3/configure.ac to make a new > prereq-0.4/configure script, as currently the configure script does a > few things I think are wrong. > > 1) If CC is set to a non-GNU compiler, the configure scripts tests the > version

[sage-devel] Fwd: [sage-release] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
I'm forwarding this to sage-devel so more people know about it. -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex Ghitza Date: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:05 PM Subject: [sage-release] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released To: sage-rele...@googlegroups.com Built from scratch o

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
2009/8/4 William Stein : > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:06 AM, David Kirkby wrote: >> I often wonder if there should be a 'feature freeze' in Sage and >> devote some time to sorting out why these warnings are occuraing and >> whether they could result in the generation of incorrect results. > > Sag

[sage-devel] Re: Is new symbolic derivative really worth the efforts?

2009-08-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Golam, I'm replying to this e-mail so I can answer each of your points below easily. I was very busy when you sent this message to write a proper reply. On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:08:28 -0300 Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > > Hi, > > I have spent considerable amount of time in last one month >

[sage-devel] Where does sage-4.1.1.rc0.spkg chose the C++ compiler from?

2009-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
I'm trying to build 4.4.1..rc0 on 't2' (a Sun T5240 with the Sun Studio compiler suite installed) and find the sage-4.1.1.rc0.spkg insists on using the compiler from /opt/SUNWspro/bin/CC. I've tried setting CXX to /usr/local/gcc-4.2.4-sun-linker/bin/g++, but still it insists on using the Sun compi

[sage-devel] Are these reasonable assumptions about compilers ?

2009-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
I want to change the file prereq-0.3/configure.ac to make a new prereq-0.4/configure script, as currently the configure script does a few things I think are wrong. 1) If CC is set to a non-GNU compiler, the configure scripts tests the version of gcc and says the GNU compiler is too old. I know c

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> The Sage 4.1.1.rc1 release has been about sorting out a number of >> doctest failures reported in previous alpha and rc releases. Source >> and binary are availa

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 released

2009-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > The Sage 4.1.1.rc1 release has been about sorting out a number of > doctest failures reported in previous alpha and rc releases. Source > and binary are available at > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/release