[sage-devel] Re: [ANN] sage-mode-0.5.3

2009-04-23 Thread Nick Alexander
> Sure! In sage-build.el, find the line (comint-send-eof) (in defun > rerun-sage ()) and repeat it a few times. I've folded this in but > won't be cutting a new release until I have some more time or emacs > frustrations. Curious: this seems to make sage build and rerun hang on my machine. B

[sage-devel] Re: [ANN] sage-mode-0.5.3

2009-04-23 Thread Nick Alexander
On 21-Apr-09, at 5:11 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > > Dear Nick, > > One more feature request for M-x rerun-sage > > More often than not when I rerun-sage, I am at an ipdb> prompt. > Currently the soft kill (which is much faster than the hard kill!) > does not work in that case. Could the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 10:57 pm, Tim Abbott wrote: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: > > I doubt this will ever happen. Soon for example we plan to switch to > > the svn version of pari which absolutely changes lots of things in > > Sage in non-backward compatible ways, so you cannot use the stable >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: > Sure, NTL might not be the best example here, but say matplotlib. We > did not update to an svn release to make life harder for you, but > because we needed a patch that was upstreamed and not easily > rebasable. I think all the issue can and will be sorted

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: > I doubt this will ever happen. Soon for example we plan to switch to > the svn version of pari which absolutely changes lots of things in > Sage in non-backward compatible ways, so you cannot use the stable > pari release with Sage any more. And given the ti

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 10:34 pm, Tim Abbott wrote: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: Hi Tim, > > Another thing: In 3.4.1 we downgraded GAP to 4.4.10 from 4.4.12 that > > was upgraded in Sage 3.3 due to a significant number of bugs and > > issues in GAP 4.4.12. How would you deal with something like

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: > Another thing: In 3.4.1 we downgraded GAP to 4.4.10 from 4.4.12 that > was upgraded in Sage 3.3 due to a significant number of bugs and > issues in GAP 4.4.12. How would you deal with something like that in > the packaged version of Sage? The whole point abo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Stein wrote: > >> What do people think about this proposal? > > -1 from me as a goal for 4.0, since we already have a very daunting > challenge to accomplish the current goals for 4.0 in the timeframe we > have set, unless of course you are volunteering to do all of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: > would it make sense to have a small "sage-source" debian package which > depends on the (few) build tools required to build debian and which > upon installation downloads sage, compiles it, and places it in a > (debian specific) standard place in the

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 9:34 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > Carl Witty wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jason Grout > > wrote: > >> Anyone know where the CSS file is?  The color is set in a default.css > >> file, but the only default.css files I see are in _static directories, > >> which sounds like t

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Carl Witty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: >> Anyone know where the CSS file is? The color is set in a default.css >> file, but the only default.css files I see are in _static directories, >> which sounds like they are automatically generated somehow. > > It comes

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Carl Witty
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > Anyone know where the CSS file is?  The color is set in a default.css > file, but the only default.css files I see are in _static directories, > which sounds like they are automatically generated somehow. It comes (originally) from src/sphinx

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: >> >> On a different note, can we change the background color of examples? In >> my opinion, that green is just a bit too strong. > > It's not green, it is grey, and I also really don't like it either. It's definitely a light green for me in firefox on ubuntu (it's color

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > chris wuthrich wrote: >> >>  i have some questions and suggestion on the RestructuredText. I am a >> ReST-newbie and so maybe these things have been discussed before. >> >>  * In one of my files i have a line "power_series = series". This >>

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
chris wuthrich wrote: > > i have some questions and suggestion on the RestructuredText. I am a > ReST-newbie and so maybe these things have been discussed before. > > * In one of my files i have a line "power_series = series". This > produces the full docstring of series to appear twice in the

[sage-devel] documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread chris wuthrich
i have some questions and suggestion on the RestructuredText. I am a ReST-newbie and so maybe these things have been discussed before. * In one of my files i have a line "power_series = series". This produces the full docstring of series to appear twice in the documentation, once under series

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 5:51 am, "Georg S. Weber" wrote: > Hi Michael, Hi Georg, > probably you did. But just to be sure: did you really do tests with > the singular spkg I put a while ago at >    http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/weberg/spkg/ > ? Your spkg + sage -b to rebuild the extensions blow up

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 2:04 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > I doubt this will ever happen. Soon for example we plan to switch to > > the svn version of pari which absolutely changes lots of things in > > Sage in non-backward compatible ways, so you cannot

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Apr 23, 12:57 pm, William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, David Roe wrote: > > Hi, > >> > +1 from me as a good goal for 4.0.  But I don't have a whole lot of >> > experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be workin

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 1:52 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM, mabshoff wrote: > I think for the near term we should provide a binary tarball of your > toolchain. > I just tried dumping it on a completely different sparc box, and it works > well. They have been available sinc

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 12:57 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, David Roe wrote: Hi, > > +1 from me as a good goal for 4.0.  But I don't have a whole lot of > > experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be working on improving > > p-adics, so I probably won't be helping much

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Apr 23, 6:23 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> mabshoff wrote: >> > Hello, > > >> Hi Michael, > > Hi David, > >> As Sage on Solaris needs a custom tool chain, could a script be provided >> that builds that tool chain from a full (but

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 6:23 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > Hello, > Hi Michael, Hi David, > As Sage on Solaris needs a custom tool chain, could a script be provided > that builds that tool chain from a full (but fresh) installation of the > latest version of Solaris, which is Solar

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Tim Lahey wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:07 PM, William Stein wrote: > >> >> Could you explain how assumptions are so important?  Could you We already discussed this many times on this list, just search the archives. Without good assumptions, you cannot imple

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Tim Abbott wrote: > > The first is upgrading CVS/SVN versions of dependencies to actual > releases. I notice the Sage currently has an SVN version of jqueryui, an > SVN version of matplotlib, and an SVN version of ghmm (to be fair, ghmm > hasn't released is ages, so I don't blame Sage for tha

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 5:51 am, "Georg S. Weber" wrote: > Hi Michael, Hi Georg, > probably you did. But just to be sure: did you really do tests with > the singular spkg I put a while ago at >    http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/weberg/spkg/ > ? I will take it for a spin. I am pretty sure we need to

[sage-devel] Re: feature request

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 4:36 am, Flavio Coelho wrote: > Thanks Michael, Hi Flávio, > I was really referring to multiprocessing, since their APIs are not > the same and  pyprocessing isn't supported anymore. Multiprocessing is > maintained to be fully compatible with the 2.6 module to help with > forward c

[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check >> the release tour at >> >> http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1 >> >> and edit what is there already in case it can be im

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Lahey
On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:07 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Could you explain how assumptions are so important? Could you > particularly address how they can (1) be so critically important, and > yet (2) ginac doesn't have them. Incidentaly, to me they are > particularly important in symbolic integr

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
2009/4/23 Tim Abbott : > > I'd like to add as a goal that Sage 4.0 works with versions of its > dependencies available from the relevant upstreams. > > For context, I would very much like to be able to package Sage 4.0 for > Debian once it comes out, since I find the current state of having Sage >

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Ondrej Certik wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Maurizio wrote: We managed to get one gsoc project that does the assumptions right, so it may happen anyways over the summer, in fact I very much hope so. >>> How does

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, David Roe wrote: > +1 from me as a good goal for 4.0.  But I don't have a whole lot of > experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be working on improving > p-adics, so I probably won't be helping much. > David > > 2009/4/23 Tim Abbott >> >> I'd like to add a

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Maurizio wrote: >>> We managed to get one gsoc project that does the assumptions right, so >>> it may happen anyways over the summer, in fact I very much hope so. >>> >> How does assumptions affect this? If that's so important, you should >>

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread David Roe
+1 from me as a good goal for 4.0. But I don't have a whole lot of experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be working on improving p-adics, so I probably won't be helping much. David 2009/4/23 Tim Abbott > > I'd like to add as a goal that Sage 4.0 works with versions of its > dependencies

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
I'd like to add as a goal that Sage 4.0 works with versions of its dependencies available from the relevant upstreams. For context, I would very much like to be able to package Sage 4.0 for Debian once it comes out, since I find the current state of having Sage 3.0.5 from last July to be somew

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-23 Thread Bill Hart
The latest RC of MPIR 1.1.1 should fix this issue. Bill. On 23 Apr, 01:43, Bill Hart wrote: > Hi Marshall. I think I have a fix for this. But I've started a thread > on the MPIR development list for this: > > http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mpir-devel/browse_thread/thread/34a4... > > Bill. > >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
mabshoff wrote: > Hello, > > while there should be a quick 3.4.2 to mop up patches from trac before > the big 4.0 jump today we had a planning session during the UW status > meeting about the goals for Sage 4.0. The result is at > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/plan/sage-4.0 > > It still needs a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Georg S. Weber
Hi Michael, probably you did. But just to be sure: did you really do tests with the singular spkg I put a while ago at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/weberg/spkg/ ? There are quite some changes in it (ask me if you have specific questions), one or the other of which might possibly help.

[sage-devel] Fwd: google 3d js api (open source)

2009-04-23 Thread Jurgis Pralgauskis
Hello, this seems to be more than jmol... O3D is an open-source web API for creating rich, interactive 3D applications in the browser. This API is shared at an early stage as part of a conversation with the broader developer community about establishing an open web standard for 3D graphics. --

[sage-devel] Re: feature request

2009-04-23 Thread Flavio Coelho
Thanks Michael, I was really referring to multiprocessing, since their APIs are not the same and pyprocessing isn't supported anymore. Multiprocessing is maintained to be fully compatible with the 2.6 module to help with forward compatibility. So I guess the answer to my question is that Multip

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Kwankyu wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Thank you. I just found examples in the reference using multivariate > quotient rings. > > May I ask a similar question about hermite normal form of matrices > over univariate polynomial ring? ^^ Don't think it's implemented yet, but y

[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > Hi folks, > > it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check > the release tour at > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1 > > and edit what is there already in case it can be improved or add > something in ca

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-23 Thread John Cremona
2009/4/23 John Cremona : > 2009/4/22 mabshoff : >> >> >> >> On Apr 22, 12:54 pm, "David M. Monarres" wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >>> On an upgrade from 3.4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6 (intel) I get the following >>> doctest errors: >> >> Thanks for the build report. >> >>> The following tests failed: >>> >>

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-23 Thread John Cremona
2009/4/22 mabshoff : > > > > On Apr 22, 12:54 pm, "David M. Monarres" wrote: > > Hi David, > >> On an upgrade from 3.4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6 (intel) I get the following >> doctest errors: > > Thanks for the build report. > >> The following tests failed: >> >> sage -t "devel/sage/sage/algebr

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Kwankyu
Hi Robert, Thank you. I just found examples in the reference using multivariate quotient rings. May I ask a similar question about hermite normal form of matrices over univariate polynomial ring? ^^ Kwankyu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email

[sage-devel] Re: google 3d browser api

2009-04-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, > > I just discovered: > > http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ > > watch the video there. I think this is awesome -- I hope sooner or > later all major browsers implement something like this, then it could > be used for all kinds of 3d interact

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Kwankyu wrote: > Hi, > > It seems that multivariate polynomial quotient rings are not in Sage > yet. Is someone working to fill this gap? or should I rely on Singular > or Magma interface? or should I attempt to implement my own toyish > one? Give me an advice. Thank

[sage-devel] Re: google 3d browser api

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 1:04 am, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, Hi, > I just discovered: > > http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ > > watch the video there. I think this is awesome -- I hope sooner or > later all major browsers implement something like this, then it could > be used for all kinds of 3d interaction

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: > On Thursday 23 April 2009, mabshoff wrote: > > > Hello, Hi Martin, > > while there should be a quick 3.4.2 to mop up patches from trac before > > the big 4.0 jump today we had a planning session during the UW status > > meeting about the goals for

[sage-devel] Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Kwankyu
Hi, It seems that multivariate polynomial quotient rings are not in Sage yet. Is someone working to fill this gap? or should I rely on Singular or Magma interface? or should I attempt to implement my own toyish one? Give me an advice. Thank you. Kwankyu --~--~-~--~~~-

[sage-devel] Re: trac ticket width and hgrc tips?

2009-04-23 Thread John Cremona
2009/4/22 mabshoff : > > > > On Apr 22, 12:52 pm, Nick Alexander wrote: >> >> To override this in Firefox on Linux, I put >> >> >> #content.ticket { width: 100% !important; } >> >> > Hmm, that seems to be a worthwhile change to me since these days most >> > people should not be limited by 800x600

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Thursday 23 April 2009, mabshoff wrote: > Hello, > > while there should be a quick 3.4.2 to mop up patches from trac before > the big 4.0 jump today we had a planning session during the UW status > meeting about the goals for Sage 4.0. The result is at > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/plan/sage-

[sage-devel] google 3d browser api

2009-04-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I just discovered: http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ watch the video there. I think this is awesome -- I hope sooner or later all major browsers implement something like this, then it could be used for all kinds of 3d interaction in the notebook. Ondrej --~--~-~--~~