[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Alexander Dreyer
Hi everybody, build succeeds on a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5148 @ 2.33GHz running SLES 10 64Bit (SuSE 10.1 + full patches) [...] scons: done building targets. Done installing PolyBoRi. real3m32.929s user2m49.039s sys 0m17.821s Successfully installed polybori-0.1-r4 Best regards, Ale

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.15 vs. gcc 4.3.0 20071130 (experimental)

2007-12-04 Thread Ismail Dönmez
Wednesday 05 December 2007 06:07:03 mabshoff yazmıştı: > gmp: [...] >  * uncomment std::FILE -> causes trouble - need clean fix See attached patch. Regards, ismail -- Never learn by your mistakes, if you do you may never dare to try again. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.15 vs. gcc 4.3.0 20071130 (experimental)

2007-12-04 Thread Justin C. Walker
Hi, all, On Dec 4, 2007, at 20:07 , mabshoff wrote: [snip] > Those are all cause by mwrank. The issue seems to be the same issue as > Justin Walker reported in the 2.8.15 thread in sage-support. > Interestingly nobody ever reported it and I now finally have a > testcase that also produces the is

[sage-devel] Response to Jason Grout - Sage Notebook and Knoboo

2007-12-04 Thread alex clemesha
>> The Sage notebook hasn't gone much of anywhere during the last 5 months >> only because the main developers of it (i.e., me, Alex Clemesha and >> Bobby Moretti) >> have been working on other projects, and nobody has taken over. Alex has >> created his own completely new variant (something like

[sage-devel] Sage 2.8.15 vs. gcc 4.3.0 20071130 (experimental)

2007-12-04 Thread mabshoff
Hello, it took a while, but I managed to compile all of Sage 2.8.15 with gcc 4.3.0 20071130 (experimental). Thanks to Carl Witty who gave me a couple pointers it happened much more smoothly than I had expected. Also thanks to cartman who fixed the LinBox gcc 4.3 issue that I should have fixed a m

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 4, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On with the bug reports: > - When I run the applet, I get a scary number of requests for > "trust", including some "identification required" dialogue boxes (on > fedora 7) that supply no information whatsoever. It feels like signing > a blank chequ

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE-2.8.15!

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Miller
Probably too late, but maybe this will help. On thing I did that may have caused this is change branches on one terminal while doing a maketest in another window. I haven't moved sage root since install, so I don't know how relevant #1358 is. 1. Tried to install cremona, ran into the same probl

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Nils Bruin
On with the bug reports: - When I run the applet, I get a scary number of requests for "trust", including some "identification required" dialogue boxes (on fedora 7) that supply no information whatsoever. It feels like signing a blank cheque. These are the kinds of dialogues that students should

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Forrest
On Dec 4, 2007 5:23 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > My solution to this problem is to simply bundle a copy of the desired > version of JavaSE, with the desired version of Java3D already > installed in it, with the application. The app is then tested against > this configuration

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Ted Kosan
Justin wrote: > > My thought here is that I am unsure if Apple allows their Java > > implementation to be freely distributed. > > Why do you want to do that? Doesn't Java "come with"? If you want > to use a specific version with your app, that might present problems > of its own (bringing a 10.

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > The Sage notebook hasn't gone much of anywhere during the last 5 months > only because the main developers of it (i.e., me, Alex Clemesha and > Bobby Moretti) > have been working on other projects, and nobody has taken over. Alex has > created his own completely new varian

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Ted Kosan wrote: > > Robert wrote: > >> I don't know that it would be any harder for the Mac--usually there's >> less of a need for an actual installer. However, in practice Java is >> fairly compatible platform-to-platform, and most computers already >> have it. > >

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Nils Bruin
On Dec 3, 10:33 pm, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, that is the point of gluegen-rt.jar--it lets one ship > native code (so/dll/dylib) libraries within the jars themselves, and > why there has to be singed code involved. Does the 4x4 applet still > work for you if you unins

[sage-devel] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Looking for smallest power of 2 >= Integer

2007-12-04 Thread William Stein
On Dec 4, 2007 11:02 AM, Stephen Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2007 1:57 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > Perhaps the exact_log function of Integer might help (though it > > rounds down)? > > > > sage: a = 17 > > sage: a.exact_log(2) > > 4 > > Thanks

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread William Stein
On Dec 4, 2007 12:15 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert wrote: > > > I don't know that it would be any harder for the Mac--usually there's > > less of a need for an actual installer. However, in practice Java is > > fairly compatible platform-to-platform, and most computers alread

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Ted Kosan
Robert wrote: > I don't know that it would be any harder for the Mac--usually there's > less of a need for an actual installer. However, in practice Java is > fairly compatible platform-to-platform, and most computers already > have it. My thought here is that I am unsure if Apple allows their J

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE-2.8.15!

2007-12-04 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 4, 8:30 pm, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if this is specific to my current install, but I thought > it could be useful to someone. Also, I'm not noticing any problems > resulting from this. During upgrade from 2.8.14 on Intel OS X 10.5.1: > > g++ -fPIC -shared -

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE-2.8.15!

2007-12-04 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 4, 8:30 pm, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if this is specific to my current install, but I thought > it could be useful to someone. Also, I'm not noticing any problems > resulting from this. During upgrade from 2.8.14 on Intel OS X 10.5.1: I did fix some issue w

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE-2.8.15!

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Miller
I don't know if this is specific to my current install, but I thought it could be useful to someone. Also, I'm not noticing any problems resulting from this. During upgrade from 2.8.14 on Intel OS X 10.5.1: g++ -fPIC -shared -o libntl.so FFT.o FacVec.o GF2.o GF2E.o GF2EX.o GF2EXFactoring.o GF2X.o

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread William Stein
> > Hey, it failed for me :-) on ubuntu 32-bit linux: > > I removed the pushd and popd, apparently they are bashisms. > > Here is the new package: > > http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/berocal/sage/polybori-0.1-r4.spkg I've updated the package on sagemath.org; I then did install_package('

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Ted Kosan wrote: > Robert wrote: > >> Actually, that is the point of gluegen-rt.jar--it lets one ship >> native code (so/dll/dylib) libraries within the jars themselves, and >> why there has to be singed code involved. Does the 4x4 applet still >> work for you if you

[sage-devel] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Looking for smallest power of 2 >= Integer

2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Forrest
On Dec 4, 2007 1:57 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Perhaps the exact_log function of Integer might help (though it > rounds down)? > > sage: a = 17 > sage: a.exact_log(2) > 4 Thanks very much; even though I made the original post in confusion, I had been wondering how to

[sage-devel] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Looking for smallest power of 2 >= Integer

2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Forrest
Please ignore this post; it's from a completely different mailing list (about Haskell). Catching up on weeks of unread mail from different mailing lists has apparently left me quite confused. Steve On Dec 4, 2007 1:54 PM, Stephen Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 4, 2007 1:08 PM, Davi

[sage-devel] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Looking for smallest power of 2 >= Integer

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Stephen Forrest wrote: > On Dec 4, 2007 1:08 PM, David Benbennick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Dec 4, 2007 9:21 AM, Steven Fodstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> For the index, how about this: >>> >>> truncate . (/(log 2)) . log . fromIntegral >> >> That will no

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/berocal/sage/polybori_wrapper-20071204.hg Note that this is for comments and testing only, and is not at all complete. I know one way of crashing it, try to use BooleSet iterators. Comments, suggestions and patches very welcome. (But

[sage-devel] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Looking for smallest power of 2 >= Integer

2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Forrest
On Dec 4, 2007 1:08 PM, David Benbennick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 4, 2007 9:21 AM, Steven Fodstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the index, how about this: > > > > truncate . (/(log 2)) . log . fromIntegral > > That will not work. It will convert the Integer to Double, which will

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Jason Grout wrote: >> >>> Robert Bradshaw wrote: I spent a lot of time writing the java3d stuff for Sage this summer, but haven't had a chance to work on it much since then. I

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Jason Grout
Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > >> Robert Bradshaw wrote: >>> I spent a lot of time writing the java3d stuff for Sage this summer, >>> but haven't had a chance to work on it much since then. I am hoping >>> to get back to it a bit this Christmas break (co

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> I spent a lot of time writing the java3d stuff for Sage this summer, >> but haven't had a chance to work on it much since then. I am hoping >> to get back to it a bit this Christmas break (coming up in a week for >> me). I

[sage-devel] Re: [Aldor-combinat-devel] [sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Michael Abshoff
Mike Hansen wrote: > Hello, > Hello, >> Mike, could you point me to your code? > > I've attached the _very_ rough version I started awhile back. It just > does FormalPowerSeries and DataStream. > >> I actually wonder why you would >> reprogram it in Sage and not interfacing the aldor-combinat l

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Ted Kosan
Robert wrote: > Actually, that is the point of gluegen-rt.jar--it lets one ship > native code (so/dll/dylib) libraries within the jars themselves, and > why there has to be singed code involved. Does the 4x4 applet still > work for you if you uninstall java3d? > > > Given that people already have

[sage-devel] Re: [Aldor-combinat-devel] [sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Mike Hansen
> > Mike, could you point me to your code? > > I've attached the _very_ rough version I started awhile back. It just > does FormalPowerSeries and DataStream. Just for clarification, the code that I posted above is just some very preliminary experimentation I had been doing on my own machine. It

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:40:52 -0800 "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2007 8:35 AM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > William Stein wrote: > > > Regarding PolyBoRi, (1) it is now an optional package (I just > > > added it to the optional package list). It woul

[sage-devel] Re: [Aldor-combinat-devel] [sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, > Mike, could you point me to your code? I've attached the _very_ rough version I started awhile back. It just does FormalPowerSeries and DataStream. > I actually wonder why you would > reprogram it in Sage and not interfacing the aldor-combinat library? > Is there a problem with the lic

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Nick Alexander
On 4-Dec-07, at 8:43 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:30:39 -0800 (PST) > mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Could Burcin post a link to his patch bundle that provides library >>> support for PolyBoRi for Sage in this thread, so we can all try >>> it out? Worked for

[sage-devel] Re: [PATCH] Compile Linbox with gcc 4.3 trunk

2007-12-04 Thread Clement Pernet
Thanks Ismail for the report. The latest svn version of linbox is now fixed. Clement ismail dönmez a écrit : >Hi all, > >I applied attached patch to Linbox 1.1.4 tarball and I was able to >build & pass regression tests with gcc 4.3 trunk. > >Regards, >ismail > >> > > >

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:30:39 -0800 (PST) mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could Burcin post a link to his patch bundle that provides library > > support for PolyBoRi for Sage in this thread, so we can all try > > it out? > > Yep, that should happen ASAP. OK, until I update to 2.8.15, mer

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread William Stein
On Dec 4, 2007 8:35 AM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William Stein wrote: > > > > > Regarding PolyBoRi, (1) it is now an optional package (I just added > > it to the optional package list). It would be good if everybody > > reading this with interest in polybori and some cycles to s

[sage-devel] Re: Java3D usable in any form?

2007-12-04 Thread Jason Grout
Robert Bradshaw wrote: > I spent a lot of time writing the java3d stuff for Sage this summer, > but haven't had a chance to work on it much since then. I am hoping > to get back to it a bit this Christmas break (coming up in a week for > me). I'm excited to see the sudden interest in this. >

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > > Regarding PolyBoRi, (1) it is now an optional package (I just added > it to the optional package list). It would be good if everybody > reading this with interest in polybori and some cycles to spare > could type > sage: install_package('polybori-0.1-r3') > and rep

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 4, 4:58 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 4, 2007 6:54 AM, mabshoff > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 4, 3:32 pm, Burcin Erocal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:40:36 -0800 (PST) > > > > Alexander Dreyer <[EMAIL PROTEC

[sage-devel] First ever -- SAGE "A&S Computing GSA"

2007-12-04 Thread William Stein
Hello Sage-Devel, Robert Miller has been hired by University of Washington (not by me) to be the first "Sage GSA" -- SAGE Graduate Student Assistant. Here's the official job description for the position below. The point of this email s that if you're at a university and an opportunity for someth

[sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Michael Abshoff
Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > On 11/30/2007 03:13 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: >> Hi Dan, >> >> I've been spending a bit of time with symmetric functions recently. >> In the near future, I'll be making a commit that adds support for >> Hall-Littlewood, Macdonald polynomials, and quasisymmetric functions. >>

[sage-devel] [PATCH] Compile Linbox with gcc 4.3 trunk

2007-12-04 Thread ismail dönmez
Hi all, I applied attached patch to Linbox 1.1.4 tarball and I was able to build & pass regression tests with gcc 4.3 trunk. Regards, ismail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread William Stein
On Dec 4, 2007 6:54 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 4, 3:32 pm, Burcin Erocal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:40:36 -0800 (PST) > > > > Alexander Dreyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The essential part of PolyBoRi (using the built-ininterface

[sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 11/30/2007 03:13 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I've been spending a bit of time with symmetric functions recently. > In the near future, I'll be making a commit that adds support for > Hall-Littlewood, Macdonald polynomials, and quasisymmetric functions. > Other stuff that will need to

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 4, 3:32 pm, Burcin Erocal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:40:36 -0800 (PST) > > Alexander Dreyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The essential part of PolyBoRi (using the built-ininterface) can be > > built in about 3 minutes on a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5148 @ 2

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hello, On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:40:36 -0800 (PST) Alexander Dreyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The essential part of PolyBoRi (using the built-ininterface) can be > built in about 3 minutes on a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5148 @ 2.33GHz > (using one cpu only). I'll try to find the corresponding scons >

[sage-devel] Re: mpolynomial factorization

2007-12-04 Thread Bill Hart
The GCD is used in the first stage of any factoring algorithm, to find the content (GCD of all the coefficients) and to factor into squarefree factors (using GCD(f, f') where f' is the derivative). But your example is special. The example you give can be factored by hand in 5 minutes because ther

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: Weaning

2007-12-04 Thread David Harvey
On Dec 4, 2007, at 5:09 AM, fwc wrote: >>> 1) Taylor series of a rational function. >> >>> This works: >>> sage: cos(x).taylor(x,0,2) >> >>> This doesn't: >>> sage: x/(1+x).taylor(x,0,2) >> >>> This is very confusing: > >> This is due to the fact that '.' binds tighter than '/'. For >> examp

[sage-devel] Re: mpolynomial factorization

2007-12-04 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 02:31, William Stein wrote: > > I think we discussed this on the list before. For univariate you want > > van hoeij's algorithm and for multivariate some variant of GCDHEU or > > EZGCD. > > > > I think the algorithm Singular are using, EZGCD, is probably pretty > > good

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.14 on Solaris

2007-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Nov., 02:01, "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/27/07, mabshoff wrote: > > ... > > Since there seem to be at least 3 or 4 people interested in Sage > > onSolarisI am willing to roll up some binaries, at least for Sparc > > and maybe later for Intel. Let me know if you are interes

[sage-devel] Re: mpolynomial factorization

2007-12-04 Thread Bill Hart
Good point! I am confusing the two issues somewhat. The confusion arises in that there is an EZ-GCD and an EZ factorisation algorithm, and EEZ-GCD and an EEZ factorisation algorithm. In fact Magma uses a variant of the latter to factor multivariate polynomials. The EEZ-GCD algorithm was derived b

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Alexander Dreyer
Hello again, The essential part of PolyBoRi (using the built-ininterface) can be built in about 3 minutes on a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5148 @ 2.33GHz (using one cpu only). I'll try to find the corresponding scons commands for the spkg and the Sage-wrapper and give to to Burcin. Best regards, Alexa

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Alexander Dreyer
Hi anybody, > it might be true that more users care about R but what if a minority really > really pushes for PolyBoRi? ;-) > > In any case, I am BCC'ing this to Michael and Andreas maybe they have some > wisdom to share how to cut the compile time of PolyBoRi. Hm, is this really a problem? From

[sage-devel] Re: mpolynomial factorization

2007-12-04 Thread Bill Hart
Yes, indeed Magma does this. Bill. On 4 Dec, 02:52, "Stephen Forrest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 3, 2007 8:53 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 3 Dec, 17:15, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is not so good, really. We should be aiming to beat

[sage-devel] PolyBoRi integration

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Albrecht
> PolyBoRi should be a trivial-to-install optional package for a while before > inclusion in standard Sage -- building PolyBoRi and R takes about the same > time, and I think having R in every copy of Sage will be of interest to far > more users. Hi there, it might be true that more users care