[sage-devel] Re: latex variable names

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/27/07, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Round about calculus.py line 3283 is a really charming latex-ification > algorithm. I have some questions about it. Could the if statement that puts > the 'tails' into the subscript be moved into the latex_varify function? > > I'm also bot

[sage-devel] Release plans for Sage 2.8.11 and 2.9

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
Hello, now that 2.8.10 has been released here are the plans for the next two upcoming Sage releases: - 2.8.11 to be released on November 2nd. The main goals for this release are: * it will be the basis for Sage Bug Day 5 * bug fixes and small features only * we intent to make this compile

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.10 is released

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sage 2.8.10 has been released. Download from > http://sagemath.org/download.html or upgrade with "sage -upgrade", as > usual. > > This release includes updated spkg's prepared by Robert Bradshaw and > Carl Witty, and patches created by Carl W

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.10 is released

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 29, 7:13 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/28/07, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Sage 2.8.10 has been released. Download from > >http://sagemath.org/download.htmlor upgrade with "sage -upgrade", as > > usual. > > > This release includes updated spkg'

[sage-devel] Sage 2.8.10 is released

2007-10-28 Thread Carl Witty
Sage 2.8.10 has been released. Download from http://sagemath.org/download.html or upgrade with "sage -upgrade", as usual. This release includes updated spkg's prepared by Robert Bradshaw and Carl Witty, and patches created by Carl Witty, William Stein, Jaap Spies, Joel Mohler, Robert Miller, Dav

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are totally wrong. A bot with 1000 user accounts has no > > greater chance to kill another worksheet process, etc. > > with high probability than a bot with 1 user account. > > I don't understand what you're thinking. > > If there

[sage-devel] Announcement for Sage Bug Day 5: November 3rd, 10am PST

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, Bug Day 5 is now planned for Saturday, November 3rd, 2007. Official start will be 10am PST, but as usual people from European time zones or the east coast might start earlier and finish a little sooner. I you would like to participate add your name to the list at http://wiki.sagemat

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread boothby
> You are totally wrong. A bot with 1000 user accounts has no > greater chance to kill another worksheet process, etc. > with high probability than a bot with 1 user account. > I don't understand what you're thinking. If there are 1000 user accounts, and a bot has 1000 web accounts, then either

[sage-devel] Re: numerically solve an equation

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/26/07, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm trying to numerically solve a system of equations. Currently I have: > > > > sage: var('x y p q') > > sage: eq1 = p+q==9 > > sage: eq2 = q*y+p*x==-6 > > sage: eq3 = q*y^2+p*x^2==

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the sage server should just have some specific number of limited > > permission sagexxx accounts, e.g., 1000 of them, and then as new users > > are created map them to one of those accounts. There will be a hard > > limit on th

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread boothby
> I think the sage server should just have some specific number of limited > permission sagexxx accounts, e.g., 1000 of them, and then as new users > are created map them to one of those accounts. There will be a hard > limit on the total number of users, of course. I'm basically > envisioning

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, TrixB4Kidz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just out of curiosity are you listing options like the above since > > you "want somebody to implement them", or are you listing them because > > you want to implement one of them, and you want feedback before you > > choose the one that you w

[sage-devel] Re: LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 29, 2:22 am, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28 Oct, 20:26, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK, so I wasn't trying to suggest that I was the first to have got as > > far but every little helps, and if Johannes remembers to ask > > Christoph then he may be sp

[sage-devel] Re: LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread Bill Hart
On 28 Oct, 20:26, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so I wasn't trying to suggest that I was the first to have got as > far but every little helps, and if Johannes remembers to ask > Christoph then he may be sprred into action. > > As for physically GPL-ing the code, here's wh

[sage-devel] Re: Py_ssize_t question

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Py_ssize_t should *never* be used if you really mean to use an > > int. But in any situation that you're indexing something, use > > it. Note that it is not just size_t from C, since it is signed, > > since in Python list indices can be neg

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread TrixB4Kidz
> Just out of curiosity are you listing options like the above since > you "want somebody to implement them", or are you listing them because > you want to implement one of them, and you want feedback before you > choose the one that you want to implement? I'd be willing to implement this functio

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE and other applications

2007-10-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
> > So this is it: > > Why is there not emphasize on sagemath.org about the fact that sage can also > > be used for natural sciences/engineering applications etc.? > > I think that first of all this would mean more users coming to sage. > > From my perspective, SAGE has evolved to the point where

[sage-devel] Re: Py_ssize_t question

2007-10-28 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On 10/28/07, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What is the correct/recommended use of Py_ssize_t in Cython code? > > Py_ssize_t should *never* be used if you really mean to use an > int. But in any situation that you're indexing something, use > it. Note that it

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE and other applications

2007-10-28 Thread Ted Kosan
Fabio wrote: > So this is it: > Why is there not emphasize on sagemath.org about the fact that sage can also > be used for natural sciences/engineering applications etc.? > I think that first of all this would mean more users coming to sage. >From my perspective, SAGE has evolved to the point wh

[sage-devel] Re: Fun Things to do with a Sage Notebook

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/27/07, TrixB4Kidz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excellent. Prohibiting socket access will be easier to implement than > building the compromise I proposed. OK. So who wants to explain exactly how to do this using iptables? > > > > 2. Disallow killing processes by any sageXX account. This

[sage-devel] Re: Py_ssize_t question

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the correct/recommended use of Py_ssize_t in Cython code? You should use Py_ssize_t *anywhere* you are indexing into a Python list, tuple, etc. Py_ssize_t is the official Python 2.5.x type for indexing into such structures. Py_ssize_

[sage-devel] Re: implemented here

2007-10-28 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On 10/28/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am working on a talk on SAGE for the RHUL PhD seminar and thus I wondered >> what functionality SAGE implements that was not implemented before in the >> open-source world. By 'implement' I do not mean wrapping som

[sage-devel] Re: implemented here

2007-10-28 Thread David Joyner
On 10/28/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I am working on a talk on SAGE for the RHUL PhD seminar and thus I wondered > what functionality SAGE implements that was not implemented before in the > open-source world. By 'implement' I do not mean wrapping some libr

[sage-devel] Re: implemented here

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am working on a talk on SAGE for the RHUL PhD seminar and thus I wondered > what functionality SAGE implements that was not implemented before in the > open-source world. By 'implement' I do not mean wrapping some library or > using the C

[sage-devel] implemented here

2007-10-28 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi everybody, I am working on a talk on SAGE for the RHUL PhD seminar and thus I wondered what functionality SAGE implements that was not implemented before in the open-source world. By 'implement' I do not mean wrapping some library or using the CLI of some other CAS/mathematics package. So f

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE 2.8.10.rc1 released

2007-10-28 Thread cwitty
On Oct 28, 1:48 pm, cwitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can download SAGE 2.8.10.rc1 > fromhttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/cwitty/2.8.10/sage-2.8.10.rc1.tar > . > > Hopefully there will be no more changes before the release of 2.8.10, > which is expected to happen this evening. Well, th

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE 2.8.10.rc1 released

2007-10-28 Thread cwitty
You can download SAGE 2.8.10.rc1 from http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/cwitty/2.8.10/sage-2.8.10.rc1.tar . Hopefully there will be no more changes before the release of 2.8.10, which is expected to happen this evening. Carl Witty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To pos

[sage-devel] Re: LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread John Cremona
OK, so I wasn't trying to suggest that I was the first to have got as far but every little helps, and if Johannes remembers to ask Christoph then he may be sprred into action. As for physically GPL-ing the code, here's what I did for mwrank, where admittedly the source code was not split int

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE and other applications

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, Fabio Tonti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just copy and pasting something which I spoke about with cwitty and > Martin Albrecht. > > So this is it: > Why is there not emphasize on sagemath.org about the fact that sage can also > be used for natural sciences/engineering applications

[sage-devel] SAGE and other applications

2007-10-28 Thread Fabio Tonti
I'm just copy and pasting something which I spoke about with cwitty and Martin Albrecht. So this is it: Why is there not emphasize on sagemath.org about the fact that sage can also be used for natural sciences/engineering applications etc.? I think that first of all this would mean more users comi

[sage-devel] Re: Issue during upgrade

2007-10-28 Thread Bobby Moretti
Sorry, accidentally hit send before I wrote anything :). When upgrading to 2.8.9, the upgrade halts with the output /bin/sed: can't read /home/bob/sage-2.8.7/local/lib/libgmp.la: No such file or directory I renamed the directory /home/bob/sage-2.8.7 to /home/bob/sage. Something in sage -upgrade

[sage-devel] Re: VMware root password

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
login as manage, then do sudo - su - William (Sent from my iPhone.) On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:44 AM, John Voight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tried that. > > sage login: root > Password: sage > > No dice. > > Did this change and I need to acquire a new VMware appliance? > > JV > > > > --

[sage-devel] Re: VMware root password

2007-10-28 Thread John Voight
I tried that. sage login: root Password: sage No dice. Did this change and I need to acquire a new VMware appliance? JV --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL

[sage-devel] Issue during upgrade

2007-10-28 Thread Bobby Moretti
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[sage-devel] Re: LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread Bill Hart
Hi John, If I recall correctly, William Stein already asked Christoph if a GPL'd version of LiDIA was coming. His posts on the LiDIA list indicate that Prof. Buchmann has agreed and that as far as he (Christoph) is concerned, LiDIA is GPL'd. Christoph said he would produce a GPL'd version of the

[sage-devel] Re: LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread William Stein
On 10/28/07, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asked JB specifically about GPL'ing LiDIA and he immediately agreed > saying there was no problem with that as far as he is concerned. He > said we should approach Christoph Ludwig who is the person currently > in charge of LiDIA. I guess

[sage-devel] Re: LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread John Cremona
Bill's post reminded to me to report on a discussion I had about 10 days ago with Johannes Buchmann. Buchmann's group created LiDIA about 15 years ago. At the time, the fact that LiDIA would exist and be a C++ package was what concinved me to convert all my old programs to C++ (from Algol68 if y

[sage-devel] LiDIA

2007-10-28 Thread Bill Hart
I've been looking at LiDIA again to see how fast the number field module is. Here are some notes: * LiDIA does not compile with g++ version 4.1.2 let alone 4.2.2. * The instructions on the LiDIA list for making it compile are incomplete and seem to break various bits of the integer factorisation

[sage-devel] Py_ssize_t question

2007-10-28 Thread Jaap Spies
Hi, What is the correct/recommended use of Py_ssize_t in Cython code? In part of the code I see Py_ssize_t as a kind of replacement for int, while Python PEP 353 speaks about integers used as index. In trac ticket #973 Michael wrote: > -/* Return a Py_ssize_t integer from the object item */ > -

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-forum] sage-2.8.8

2007-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We recently became aware of the build-problems on OSX. The fixes are included in the next release of CVXOPT (>0.9). Joachim On Oct 22, 4:16 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/22/07, Hamptonio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I had the following failure from "make test", fro

[sage-devel] Re: potential cause for #557: cython missing dictionary deallocation

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 28, 11:26 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > On Oct 28, 10:33 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Oct 28, 2007, at 2:17 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > > > > > > > On Oct 28, 9:48 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > >> O

[sage-devel] Re: numerically solve an equation

2007-10-28 Thread David Joyner
On 10/26/07, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to numerically solve a system of equations. Currently I have: > > sage: var('x y p q') > sage: eq1 = p+q==9 > sage: eq2 = q*y+p*x==-6 > sage: eq3 = q*y^2+p*x^2==24 > sage: solve([eq1,eq2,eq3,p==1],p,q,x,y) > [[p == 3, q == 6, x ==

[sage-devel] Re: potential cause for #557: cython missing dictionary deallocation

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 28, 10:33 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 28, 2007, at 2:17 AM, mabshoff wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > > > > On Oct 28, 9:48 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:29 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > Hi Robert, > > >>> For 2.8.10.alpha

[sage-devel] Re: potential cause for #557: cython missing dictionary deallocation

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:29 AM, mabshoff wrote: > For 2.8.10.alpha1+Craig's fix and python compiled using "--without- > pymalloc" I get with the default cleanup level 1: > > ==6569== LEAK SUMMARY: > ==6569==definitely lost: 181,030 bytes in 2,926 blocks. > ==6569== possibly lost: 266,925 byt

[sage-devel] Re: Unhandled SIGSEGV: Ticket #973

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
Okay, I got some new results: Changing permanent() slightly in matrix2.pyx: print "entering permanent() - m: ",m," n: ",n from sage.rings.arith import binomial for r from 1 <= r < m+1: lst = _choose(n, r) print "lst", lst tmp = []

[sage-devel] Re: potential cause for #557: cython missing dictionary deallocation

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 28, 2007, at 2:17 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > On Oct 28, 9:48 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:29 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > Hi Robert, > >> >> >>> For 2.8.10.alpha1+Craig's fix and python compiled using "--without- >>> pymalloc" I get with the default clea

[sage-devel] Re: potential cause for #557: cython missing dictionary deallocation

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 27, 1:26 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:35 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > >>> Carl Witty was also wondering whether your newCython.spkg was ready > >>> for 2.8.10 or if we should wait. > > >> I believe so, it compiles all of SAGE and passes all doctests. S

[sage-devel] Re: potential cause for #557: cython missing dictionary deallocation

2007-10-28 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 28, 9:48 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:29 AM, mabshoff wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > > For 2.8.10.alpha1+Craig's fix and python compiled using "--without- > > pymalloc" I get with the default cleanup level 1: > > > ==6569== LEAK SUMMARY: > > ==6569==