[sage-devel] Re: SATURDAY at 10am -- #sage-devel irc.freenode.net

2007-08-15 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 16, 7:53 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/07, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That was a fun way to get work done. I think that it would be great to > > get people on non-Solaris boxen to verify that the modified packages > > still work as expected. > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Axiom / guess / sage

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
On 8/15/07, Paul-Olivier Dehaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > How do I do some of the more advanced examples given at > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GuessingFormulasForSequences > under SAGE? > If tmp is a sequence of SAGE rational functions, I tried: > > sage: tmp_axiom = axiom(tmp) > sa

[sage-devel] SATURDAY at 10am -- #sage-devel irc.freenode.net

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That was a fun way to get work done. I think that it would be great to > get people on non-Solaris boxen to verify that the modified packages > still work as expected. > > Regarding the date: Saturday is better for me, but Sunday is fine, > too. T

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 16, 3:55 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:36 PM, William Stein wrote: > > >> at what time? > > > > Good question. How about starting at 9am pacific time (=noon your > > > time)? > > > I sugges

[sage-devel] RFC: Optional ATLAS SPKG

2007-08-15 Thread mabshoff
Hello, at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/atlas-3.7.37.spkg you can find an ATLAS SPKG. Right now it only builds dynamic and static versions of ATLAS. It takes about 15-20 minutes on a decent Athlon 64. It has been tested by William and me, so if you feel lucky give it a try. We pla

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8 build fails on G5 powerpc OS 10.4.10

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well the included binary works at least to this extent: > > ~/sage-2.8/local/bin > george$ ./sage_fortran.bin --version > G95 (GCC 4.0.3 (g95 0.91!) Jun 4 2007) > Copyright (C) 2002-2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > Let me try installing

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8 build fails on G5 powerpc OS 10.4.10

2007-08-15 Thread David Harvey
On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:08 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Here's another failure which I don't believe is scipy-related, but >> might be a clue: > > That is fortran related. It fails for the same reason that lapack > woulnd't work for you -- the g95 fortran binary we included for > SAGE doesn't wor

[sage-devel] Re: fixes need for SAGE 2.8.1 to work on Solaris

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just in case you wonder why the channel is empty: The IRC channel is called > #SAGE-dev and not #sage-devel. We should probably change that. OK, henceforth the irc.freenode.net channel is sage-devel. By the way, an easy way to use irc fro

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8 build fails on G5 powerpc OS 10.4.10

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:03 PM, William Stein wrote: > > > Just for debuging purposes, could you do the following and > > report what happens? > > > > Fake lapack-20070723 for now, e.g., do > > cd SAGE_ROOT > > touch spkg/installed/lapack-2007

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:36 PM, William Stein wrote: > >> at what time? > > > > Good question. How about starting at 9am pacific time (=noon your > > time)? > > I suggest this just because I'll likely wake up at 8:30am pacific > > time. > > That'

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8 build fails on G5 powerpc OS 10.4.10

2007-08-15 Thread David Harvey
On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:03 PM, William Stein wrote: > Just for debuging purposes, could you do the following and > report what happens? > > Fake lapack-20070723 for now, e.g., do > cd SAGE_ROOT > touch spkg/installed/lapack-20070723 > Continue the build with "make" and do the same as above > f

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread David Harvey
On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:36 PM, William Stein wrote: >> at what time? > > Good question. How about starting at 9am pacific time (=noon your > time)? > I suggest this just because I'll likely wake up at 8:30am pacific > time. That's okay with me. I might show up a bit later though. I have no

[sage-devel] Re: Sympy and SAGE

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
> > I would like to avoid this if possible. > > OK, _sage_ and _sympy_ methods are fine with me. We'll try to > implement that soon. > > Ondrej OK, excellent. Let me know when you do, so I can add support for them to some key SAGE classes (e.g., rational numbers, univariate polynomials, etc.) W

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will there be any structure to the bug squashing day? Usually on these > days someone (or many people) will do a triage before the bug hunting > starts to prioritize bugs that need to be fixed. It is very easy for > the process to become randomize

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread Yi Qiang
Will there be any structure to the bug squashing day? Usually on these days someone (or many people) will do a triage before the bug hunting starts to prioritize bugs that need to be fixed. It is very easy for the process to become randomized unless there is some sort of ordered list on which bug

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, Craig Citro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'd like to be there, but I'll be on a plane. Would there be any > value to try to get a log of the chat posted, or will all of the > relevant information get posted on trac? (I have to bet I'm not the > only one who'd like to be there but ca

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread Craig Citro
So I'd like to be there, but I'll be on a plane. Would there be any value to try to get a log of the chat posted, or will all of the relevant information get posted on trac? (I have to bet I'm not the only one who'd like to be there but can't.) -cc On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:32 PM, William Stei

[sage-devel] Re: problems building linbox in sage-2.8

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 16, 1:53 am, "Pablo De Napoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > upgrading to sage-2,8 failed on my Gentoo system with the following > > messages: > > (when building linbox-20070812) I've updated the main SAGE repo with the package mentioned

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 16, 2:36 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, > > > at what time? > > Good question. How about starting at 9am pacific time (=noon your time)? > I suggest this just because I'll likely wake up at 8:30am pacific time

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > at what time? Good question. How about starting at 9am pacific time (=noon your time)? I suggest this just because I'll likely wake up at 8:30am pacific time. -- William > > david > > On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:32 PM, William Stein wrote: > > >

[sage-devel] Re: bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread David Harvey
at what time? david On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:32 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > The first bug squashing day will be this Sunday, August 19. Please > email sage-devel if you're interesting in participating, and maybe > outline > what sort of bugs you'll want to attack. > > On Sunday we'll c

[sage-devel] bug squashing Sunday

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
Hi, The first bug squashing day will be this Sunday, August 19. Please email sage-devel if you're interesting in participating, and maybe outline what sort of bugs you'll want to attack. On Sunday we'll coordinate via IRC. -- William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics Unive

[sage-devel] Re: problems building linbox in sage-2.8

2007-08-15 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 16, 1:53 am, "Pablo De Napoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > upgrading to sage-2,8 failed on my Gentoo system with the following messages: > (when building linbox-20070812) > > "checking for correct ltmain.sh version... no > configure: error: > > *** [Gentoo] sanity check failed! *

[sage-devel] problems building linbox in sage-2.8

2007-08-15 Thread Pablo De Napoli
Hi, upgrading to sage-2,8 failed on my Gentoo system with the following messages: (when building linbox-20070812) "checking for correct ltmain.sh version... no configure: error: *** [Gentoo] sanity check failed! *** *** libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh have a version mismatch! *** *** (libtool.m4 = 1.5

[sage-devel] Re: Sympy and SAGE

2007-08-15 Thread Ondrej Certik
> SAGE uses mpfr for arbitrary precision reals and GMP for arbitrary > precision integers and rationals. This is -- of course -- not the way > to go for sympy, because of its design goals. Perhaps whatever > you're doing with arbitrary precision reals might make it back into > standard Python so

[sage-devel] Re: quaddouble in sage, and other floating point issues

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, Jonathan Bober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am willing to rewrite the quad double wrapper for part (2), but it's > possible that it will be at least a little while before it happens. It > shouldn't be too difficult, though, so it might happen soon. > > Part (1) probably requires de

[sage-devel] Re: quaddouble in sage, and other floating point issues

2007-08-15 Thread Jonathan Bober
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 09:13 -0700, William Stein wrote: > On 8/14/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/14/07, cwitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 14, 12:59 am, Jonathan Bober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is exactly what NTL does in its quad float class. Just

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8 build fails on G5 powerpc OS 10.4.10

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
David, Just for debuging purposes, could you do the following and report what happens? Fake lapack-20070723 for now, e.g., do cd SAGE_ROOT touch spkg/installed/lapack-20070723 Continue the build with "make" and do the same as above for whatever else fails. You'll just cut off the connected

[sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The package is not available where you linked to, Sorry, the file was on the wrong machine. I have moved it so this link should now work: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/page/axiom.py-0.3.1.patch > but I applied the change you sa

[sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The package is not available where you linked to, but I applied the change you said manually and both your example and mine work now. Thanks! Now off to play with GUESS on some neat polynomials... Paul On Aug 15, 7:39 pm, "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > > If you have a moment to

[sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
Paul, If you have a moment to spare, could you please try this *additional( patch for axiom.py in sage-2.8: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/page/axiom.py-0.3.1.patch -- bsd:~/sage-2.8/devel page$ diff -au ./sage-main/sage/interfaces/axiom.py ./sage-test/sage/interfaces/axiom.py ---

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wonderful. > > > It just took a lot of work refining how the maxima interface works -- > > it resynchronizes itself before every interaction by putting > > "random number + 1" in the input and waits for the result of that > > arithmetic, etc. I

[sage-devel] Re: quaddouble in sage, and other floating point issues

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/14/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/14/07, cwitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 14, 12:59 am, Jonathan Bober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is exactly what NTL does in its quad float class. Just about every > > > function starts and ends with a macro to adjus

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
On 8/15/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Maxima should never ever fail due to communication between SAGE and > Maxima. I spent a lot of time making sure of that a few months ago, when > we were rolling out the calculus functionality, which uses the maxima > interface > very ve

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I could/will easily do this. I have no reason to believe that any > tests would fail, but of course it is good to check. The main > difference would be felt by those people who use -clisp, -maxima, or > -axiom in console-mode. These users

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
On 8/15/07, David Joyner wrote: > > Maybe this is more work than you want to get into but here's > an idea: > (1) try building SAGE using Clisp without readline support, > check for warnings etc, > (2) run sage -testall, check for broken tests. > (3) report problems to the lists. > Would that add

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread William Stein
On 8/15/07, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe this is more work than you want to get into but here's > an idea: > (1) try building SAGE using Clisp without readline support, > check for warnings etc, > (2) run sage -testall, check for broken tests. > (3) report problems to the lists.

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread David Joyner
Maybe this is more work than you want to get into but here's an idea: (1) try building SAGE using Clisp without readline support, check for warnings etc, (2) run sage -testall, check for broken tests. (3) report problems to the lists. Would that add useful information? +++

[sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
On 8/15/07, Bill Page I wrote: > ... > How much objection would there be to building Clisp in Sage without > readline support? > ... Alternatively assuming no dynamic method of disabling readline for Clisp is found, I guess I could use the clisp*.spkg source to build a local copy of clisp without

[sage-devel] Re: ticket #59 (optimize elliptic curve arithmetic)

2007-08-15 Thread David Harvey
On Aug 15, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Michel wrote: > I think repeated squaring is not more efficient in all cases. For > example over Z it is only > more efficient if your multiplication algorithm is faster than the > naive one (which is O(n^2) in the number of bits). > > So in the case of elliptic curv

[sage-devel] Re: fixes need for SAGE 2.8.1 to work on Solaris

2007-08-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, just in case you wonder why the channel is empty: The IRC channel is called #SAGE-dev and not #sage-devel. We should probably change that. Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC99 _www: http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~malb _ja

[sage-devel] fixes need for SAGE 2.8.1 to work on Solaris

2007-08-15 Thread mabshoff
Hello, I guess it isn't a secret that William want Sage 2.8.1 to work on Solaris "out of the box". Didie, William and I spend most of yesterday in the IRC channel #sage-devel to cooridnate the hacking and got quite far. We are done yet, but here are some notes on things to be done: sage -br fixe

[sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread Bill Page
On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no, the problem is most definitely still there, in both your and my > example, even after installing the patch. it does produce interesting > errors... > I can not reproduce these errors on the sage.math server (Linux) but careful testi

[sage-devel] Re: New Axiom package

2007-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no, the problem is most definitely still there, in both your and my example, even after installing the patch. it does produce interesting errors... -- | SAGE Version 2.8, Release Date: 2007-08-12 | | Type