Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Donald, many thanks for your clarification. Will wait for the IESG review of the current version. Regards, Greg On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:52 PM Donald Eastlake wrote: > Hi Greg, > > You shouldn't put a specific MAC address in the draft until it is > assigned in the IANA registry. > > Request

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-08-10 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Greg, You shouldn't put a specific MAC address in the draft until it is assigned in the IANA registry. Requests that only appear in drafts don't take effect until the draft is approved but if assignment policy for the registry does not require IESG approval of a draft (for example, First Come

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-08-10 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Greg, Sorry, I was looking at two messages back to back. From a unicast from Donald: > I'm still working on catching up on the MAC address aspects of this > discussion so this message may have been overcome by events. > > But individual MAC addresses are abundant. I received a request from > IA

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Jeff, to update the IANA considerations section by replacing TBD1 with the actual MAC address? I see two small allocation ranges for in the Unicast MAC addresses: 00-52-02 to 00-52-12 Unassigned (small allocations) . 00-52-14 to 00-52-FF Unassigned (small allocations) Also, can we change th

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-08-10 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Thank you, Donald. Greg, would you bump the draft with this assignment? -- Jeff > On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote: > > Hi, > > My apologies for not responding earlier in this thread. > > IANA originally contacted me as a Designated Expert for MAC addresses > under the IAN

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-08-10 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi, My apologies for not responding earlier in this thread. IANA originally contacted me as a Designated Expert for MAC addresses under the IANA OUI last year in connection with version -07. At that time, I approved an assignment for this draft. I'm fine with any reasonable usage description the

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-07-30 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Jeff, do you think that the record in the Usage filed for the requested MAC address instead of "BFD over VXLAN" be more generic, e.g., "Active OAM over NVO3"? What do you think? Regards, Greg On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 03:52:14PM -0400, Jeff

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-07-20 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Jeff, et al., attached please find the new working version of BFD over VXLAN and its diff to -13. Please let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Greg On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 03:52:14PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > >> Proposed so

Re: BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-07-20 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Jeff, thank you for the proposed text. I'll include it in the working version with capitalizing VXLAN in the IANA section). Regards, Greg On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 03:52:14PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > >> Proposed solution: A MAC value

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-07-20 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Review of -13 vs. previous open issues. The short version is the issue list is largely resolved. Summary of actions: - Update BFD Echo text as per last comment in this reply. - We need to resolve MAC address assignment. - There may be a lingering issue over the loopback network which will be ad

BFD for vxlan Destination MAC field (was Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status)

2020-07-20 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 03:52:14PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > >> Proposed solution: A MAC value should be chosen that is well known and the > >> text would become: > >> > >> "Destination MAC: A Management VNI, which does not have any tenants, will > >> have no dedicated MAC address for decapsula

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-17 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Jeff, thank you for the additional details. I've top-posted the discussion thread regarding a firewall, VTEP, and drop rules. I recall that the relevant text was suggested based on deployment experience. I will try to update it along the suggested lines: I think the rewording would include some

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-17 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Alvaro, thank you for the clarification. I will update the reference by using the text you've suggested. Regards, Greg On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:59 PM Alvaro Retana wrote: > Greg: > > Rfc5881 already specifies using GTSM…this document depends on rfc5881, so > the reference should be the BFD

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-17 Thread Alvaro Retana
Greg: Rfc5881 already specifies using GTSM…this document depends on rfc5881, so the reference should be the BFD behavior. Alvaro. On June 17, 2020 at 2:40:52 PM, Greg Mirsky (gregimir...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi Alvaro, thank you for the suggestion. I have a question. The current version references

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-17 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Greg, > On Jun 16, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > thank you for providing continued support and guidance. Please find my > notes in-lined under tag GIM>>. Attached are the new working version and > its diff to -12. There are two remaining Open Issues - 7 and 9. I much > appreciate your c

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-17 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Alvaro, thank you for the suggestion. I have a question. The current version references RFC 5082: TTL or Hop Limit: MUST be set to 255 in accordance with the Generalized TTL Security Mechanism [RFC5082]. RFC 5881, while stating the requirement for the TTL or Hop Limit value, re

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-17 Thread Alvaro Retana
On June 16, 2020 at 5:01:57 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: Hi! > > Open Issue 1: Discussion on TTL/Hop Limit = 1 > > > > Proposed Action: Greg has proposed text he will send to the working group > > suggesting GTSM procedures be utilized. The expected concern is how this > > impacts existing impl

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-16 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Hi Jeff, A big "thank you!" for continuing to track the many issues, I think I have a sense for the effort involved, but it makes a huge difference. Since I was mentioned, a couple comments inline. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 05:10:57PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > [Apologies on further delay. The b

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-16 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Jeff, thank you for providing continued support and guidance. Please find my notes in-lined under tag GIM>>. Attached are the new working version and its diff to -12. There are two remaining Open Issues - 7 and 9. I much appreciate your considerations and suggestions. Regards, Greg On Tue, Jun

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Haas
[Apologies on further delay. The best way to cause unexpected work is to offer a personal deadline to have something done.] Greg and the IESG, This update is vs. version -12 of the draft. General summary: Almost ready to go. Multiple issues are resolved. Pending items flagged here should be a

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-02-25 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Alvaro, thank you for your suggestion. I'll update the reference to RFC 5881. And I've realized that GTSM is not used anywhere else in the document. Cleaned it up. I will try to make the new update before the cut-off date. Regards, Greg On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:25 AM Alvaro Retana wrote: >

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-02-25 Thread Alvaro Retana
On January 27, 2020 at 5:44:24 PM, Greg Mirsky wrote: Greg: Hi! > below are the proposed changes to address the IP TTL/Hop Limit open issue I didn't see a discussion on the list, but since I'm holding the DISCUSS... Your proposed changes are fine, just one nit: > NEW TEXT: > TTL or Hop

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-01-27 Thread Greg Mirsky
Dear All, I've looked at: Open Issue 4: "multicast service node" text (COMMENT via Benjamin K.) Proposed Action: Incorporate suggested text from Benjamin K. to clarify text in -10. Below is the COMMENT by Benjamin Kaduk: Section 1 In the case where a Multicast Service Node (MSN) (as described

Re: draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan IESG status

2020-01-27 Thread Greg Mirsky
Dear Jeff, thank you for the most detailed caption of the IESG reviews and clear action points to address the outstanding issues. Dear All, below are the proposed changes to address the IP TTL/Hop Limit open issue (also could be reviewed in the attached diff or the new working version of the draft