RE: Automated XRD Date

2016-02-07 Thread Ian.Madsen
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] on behalf of Cline, James Dr. [james.cl...@nist.gov] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 2:47 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Automated XRD Date Hi all, Anyone know when/where the first automated powder diffractometer was

RE: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Robert Haberkorn
Bureau Dr. stop 8520 [ B113 / Bldg 217 ] Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8523    USA jcl...@nist.gov (301) 975 5793 FAX (301) 975 5334   From: alan.he...@gmail.com [ mailto:alan.he...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alan Hewat Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:27 PM To: Cline, James Dr. Cc: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re

Re: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Alan Hewat
> > I didn’t realize there were so many sub-developments... > Still, modern x-ray powder diffraction is the most important sub-development... Alan __ * Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE * +33.476.98.41.68 http://www.NeutronOptics

RE: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Cline, James Dr.
Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:30 PM To: Cline, James Dr. Cc: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Automated XRD Date By automated I mean simply producing digital data, in x y pairs I assumed you meant automated stepping. If you mean just digital data, then its Shull and Wollan in the late 1940's. Ne

Re: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Alan Hewat
- See eg: http://www.afc.asso.fr/images/AICr2014/historique/shule.png (C. G. Shull, Nobel Lecture, December 8, 1994) - "The diffraction of neutrons by crystalline powders", E. O. Wollan and C. G. Shull, Physical Review 1947, 73, 830-841 - "Neutron Diffraction Studies of NaH and NaD"

Re: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Alan Hewat
> > By automated I mean simply producing digital data, in x y pairs I assumed you meant automated stepping. If you mean just digital data, then its Shull and Wollan in the late 1940's. Neutrons were always digital of course; we had film and cameras much later than for x-rays. You must be younger

RE: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Cline, James Dr.
Hewat Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:27 PM To: Cline, James Dr. Cc: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Automated XRD Date Neutron diffractometers were automatic well before x-ray diffractometers, and were also first for position sensitive detectors (PSDs) and of course Rietveld refinement. Pape

Re: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Alan Hewat
Neutron diffractometers were automatic well before x-ray diffractometers, and were also first for position sensitive detectors (PSDs) and of course Rietveld refinement. Paper tape control was introduced in the 1950's, computers in the early 1960's and PSD's in the early 1970's. X-rays followed afte

Re: Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Peter Stephens
Jim, \What do you mean by automated? Controlled by a computer with (presumably) stepping motors? Robot sample changer? ** Peter W. Stephens Professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy Associate Dean for Research and Facilities, College of Arts and Sciences Stony Brook

Automated XRD Date

2016-01-31 Thread Cline, James Dr.
Hi all, Anyone know when/where the first automated powder diffractometer was commissioned? I'm going to presume it was used with a non-laboratory source: 2nd, when/where was the first lab diffractometer commissioned? Regards, Jim James P. Cline Materials Measurement Science Division National