[regext] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-newton-regext-rdap-considerations-on-rfc9537-00.txt

2024-06-18 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Jasdip, AFAIU, the name.type value is a shortcut to point to a precise field and I suppose such pointer should be hardcoded in the client. When the name.description value is reported, the path value must be used instead. However, there are cases where the name.type value is not sufficien

[regext] Fwd: using experimental to move items forward

2024-06-18 Thread Mario Loffredo
Sorry, forgot "reply to all" Mario Messaggio Inoltrato Oggetto:Re: [regext] using experimental to move items forward Data: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 10:28:21 +0200 Mittente: Mario Loffredo A: Andrew Newton (andy) Hi Andy, what does it mean "interoperable imp

[regext] Re: using experimental to move items forward

2024-06-18 Thread Maarten Wullink
Hi, +1 for optimizing the process where possible. But i wonder why this new process is limited to RDAP extensions only? What is the distinction between RDAP extensions and other work done in REGEXT such as EPP extensions? - Maarten > Op 17 jun 2024, om 16:25 heeft Hollenbeck, Scott > he

[regext] Re: Fwd: using experimental to move items forward

2024-06-18 Thread Andrew Newton (andy)
Responding to multiple people On 6/17/24 18:40, George Michaelson wrote: I have two competing views 1) get rid of time-wasting. If documents something novel in implementations but there are no implementations, it's not very useful work. Experimental and Informational are kind of different.

[regext] Re: Fwd: using experimental to move items forward

2024-06-18 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Newton (andy) > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 8:10 AM > To: Mario Loffredo ; > regext@ietf.org; Maarten Wullink > ; George Michaelson > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] Re: Fwd: using experimental to move items > forward > > Caution: This email originated

[regext] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-newton-regext-rdap-considerations-on-rfc9537-00.txt

2024-06-18 Thread Jasdip Singh
Hi Mario, That’s a reasonable interpretation of the issues on hand, for both name- and JSONPath-based redaction in RFC 9537. I think the question would come down to how far are we willing to evolve the JSONPath portion of RFC 9537 (Scott’s -bis idea) to guarantee client/server interoperability

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-03

2024-06-18 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
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[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-03

2024-06-18 Thread kowalik
Hi, In the course of the actual discussion on the clarity of documents we produce, especially related to implementation maturity of the solutions I would need to repeat the remark I brought up during the call for adoption [1]. I think the document, being a BCP, should be very specific about

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-03

2024-06-18 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
Pawel, the document already describes known practices, their issues, and those that are proposed, along with analysis of how they're thought to be better. What's missing? Scott > -Original Message- > From: kowa...@denic.de > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:36 AM > To: regext@ietf.org >

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-03

2024-06-18 Thread kowa...@denic.de
Hi Scott, Splitting Section 5 into "Current Practices" and "Proposed experimental Practices" would offer a lot of more clarity in this respect. Also abstract is not mentioning proposed practices: "This document describes best practices to delete domain and host objects that reduce the risk o

[regext] Re: Fwd: using experimental to move items forward

2024-06-18 Thread Andrew Newton (andy)
On 6/18/24 08:41, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: Because the RDAP extensions seem to be piling up and we seem to have differing views about their implementations. I think RFC 9537 is a good example of this... an implementation report would have been very beneficial as we are now being told the JSONP

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-03

2024-06-18 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
Section 5 already identifies the practices as observed or not, but we can add clarity by splitting it into two sections. We can also update the abstract. Thanks for the feedback. Scott > -Original Message- > From: kowa...@denic.de > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 12:03 PM > To: Hollenbec

[regext] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-newton-regext-rdap-considerations-on-rfc9537-00.txt

2024-06-18 Thread Andrew Newton (andy)
On 6/17/24 08:11, Gould, James wrote: JG - I agree that this language in the abstract could be better, but the abstract does not override the content of the entire specification and is factual. The extension explicitly identifies the redacted RDAP response fields and JSONPath is the default

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-03

2024-06-18 Thread Carroll, William
Pawel, Thanks for the feedback and for catching the mismatch between the abstract and content. About the suggestion to split section 5, the 00 version of the document split out practices into "practices to avoid," "best current practices," and "potential practices" sections. We found that org