Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Francisco Arias
I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry Stakeholder Group (RySG) request for reconsideration that triggered this proposal; perhaps someone else in this list (from the RySG) can speak to that. The second part would be ICANN organization’s proposal to address the RySG re

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: regext [mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Francisco > Arias > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:46 PM > To: Andrew Newton > Cc: regext@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois > CL&D Policy (was Proposed Pat

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread John Levine
In article <83c4fe76-52e8-48ed-b6c2-0691555d3...@icann.org> you write: >I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry Stakeholder >Group (RySG) request for reconsideration that triggered this proposal; >perhaps someone else in this list (from the RySG) can speak to that. I too

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Andrew Newton
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:52 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article <83c4fe76-52e8-48ed-b6c2-0691555d3...@icann.org> you write: >>I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry Stakeholder >>Group (RySG) request for reconsideration that triggered this proposal; >>perhaps someone e

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Dave Piscitello
I can't process this without understanding what deficiencies are known, not addressed by RDAP or provably uncommercial. Assistance or speculation invited. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:48, Andrew Newton wrote: > > the > RDAP profile replicates the known deficiencies of WHOIS –

Re: [regext] Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> Em 22 de set de 2016, à(s) 15:56:000, Hollenbeck, Scott > escreveu: > >> -Original Message- >> From: regext [mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Francisco >> Arias >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:46 PM >> To: Andrew Newton >> Cc: regext@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [regex

Re: [regext] Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> Em 22 de set de 2016, à(s) 15:46:000, Francisco Arias > escreveu: > > I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry Stakeholder > Group (RySG) request for reconsideration that triggered this proposal; > perhaps someone else in this list (from the RySG) can speak to that.

Re: [regext] Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> Em 22 de set de 2016, à(s) 17:39:000, Andrew Newton escreveu: > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:52 PM, John Levine wrote: >> In article <83c4fe76-52e8-48ed-b6c2-0691555d3...@icann.org> you write: >>> I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry >>> Stakeholder Group (RySG) r

Re: [regext] Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> Em 22 de set de 2016, à(s) 17:55:000, Dave Piscitello > escreveu: > > I can't process this without understanding what deficiencies are known, not > addressed by RDAP or provably uncommercial. > > Assistance or speculation invited. The RDS PDP WG has a gigantic laundry list of what deficie

Re: [regext] Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Andrew Newton
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > > There are two angles to commercial feasibility: one is whether implementing > RDAP is feasible; RDAP is a generic protocol that can be tailored very > differently by each use case, and being from one of the ccTLDs that > implemented it (

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Jay Daley
Hi John > On 23/09/2016, at 7:52 AM, John Levine wrote: > > In article <83c4fe76-52e8-48ed-b6c2-0691555d3...@icann.org> you write: >> I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry >> Stakeholder Group (RySG) request for reconsideration that triggered this >> proposal; >> pe

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread John R Levine
< I'm looking at the new TLD registry agreement. Could you point out the part where it says they can't do that? Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: [regext] Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Francisco Arias
FWIW, version 1.0 of the gTLD RDAP profile (i.e., what was requested to be implemented) can be found at https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rdap-operational-profile-2016-07-26-en -- Francisco On 9/22/16, 2:40 PM, "Andrew Newton" wrote: That's a fair observation. While I am not sure I r

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Jay Daley
> On 23/09/2016, at 10:18 AM, John R Levine wrote: > >> <> and Display >> (CL&D) Policy with ICANN’s request for registry operators to implement a new >> standard for registration data display. >> >> In addition, ICANN’s request to implement the new standard includes a >> requirement to >> ado

Re: [regext] FW: Proposal to remove RDAP from the Thick Whois CL&D Policy (was Proposed Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&D Policy, RDAP and RySG Request for Reconsideration)

2016-09-22 Thread Francisco Arias
Jay, As far as I know, ICANN has never said it agrees with that claim. You can listen to ICANN’s presentation of the issue and proposed way forward in the latest Thick Whois Implementation Review Team in the first minutes of the recording at https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/483